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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby iambiguous » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:31 pm

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10,000 or bust!
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:36 pm

iambiguous wrote:


10,000 or bust!
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=D> :lol: :wink:
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:08 pm

Welcome to the state unemployment website....

State your reasons for being unemployed: Covid 19

State your reasons for quitting your job: I quit my job because of a deadly national and international viral pandemic where I felt unsafe working in a very public atmosphere having my own individual health exposed on a daily basis.

Do you think you could of done anything differently other than quitting on your employer?: No, probably not.


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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby promethean75 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:53 pm

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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby promethean75 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:54 pm

But what Biggs would like to explore more substantively is the conflict of goods between, say, a police state that orders you to stay home while being unable to provide food, and those who feel justified in defying such orders to find food, and risk criminal behavior as a result. How might either party demonstrate that their particular position is the rational one, rather than merely just the fact that each feels in synch with themselves in a world awash with chance and contingency, and just happened to end up holding the position that they do without any recourse to objective truth?
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby iambiguous » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:18 pm

promethean75 wrote:But what Biggs would like to explore more substantively is the conflict of goods between, say, a police state that orders you to stay home while being unable to provide food, and those who feel justified in defying such orders to find food, and risk criminal behavior as a result. How might either party demonstrate that their particular position is the rational one, rather than merely just the fact that each feels in synch with themselves in a world awash with chance and contingency and change, and just happened to end up holding the position that they do without any recourse to objective truth?


Although I actually prefer to say, "contingency, chance and change".
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby promethean75 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:31 pm

Zero you broke ass dude, are doing what's necessary for you to get your stimulus check as quickly as possible?

First they'll look to the IRS for a direct deposit number. If you don't have one, they look to the social security admin. But the SS might not have your current address on file...so you can go to the site and do a change of address.

If you don't, the check will have to hunt you down, and that could take months.
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:55 pm

promethean75 wrote:Zero you broke ass dude, are doing what's necessary for you to get your stimulus check as quickly as possible?

First they'll look to the IRS for a direct deposit number. If you don't have one, they look to the social security admin. But the SS might not have your current address on file...so you can go to the site and do a change of address.

If you don't, the check will have to hunt you down, and that could take months.


All my information is up to date, but I'll reiterate once again, by the time we actually receive physical checks in the mail, will the money be worth a damn? 8) :lol: :P

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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:48 pm

Earlier I predicted seven to eight million people becoming unemployed in the United States by the end of this week, as it turns out, I was off by about three million people as the current number has made its way to ten million people unemployed nationwide in total.


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Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:22 pm

Joke circulating around the United States currently:

"We didn't even have to elect Andrew Yang or Bernie Sanders to get UBI, Donald Trump initiated it first before everybody else." :lol: 8) =D>

You really got to appreciate the irony here....

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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby iambiguous » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:38 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:Joke circulating around the United States currently:

"We didn't even have to elect Andrew Yang or Bernie Sanders to get UBI, Donald Trump initiated it first before everybody else." :lol: 8) =D>

You really got to appreciate the irony here....



In the interim, Venezuela has 144 coronavirus cases and 3 deaths. The U.S. has 217,661 cases and 5,153 deaths.
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Postby iambiguous » Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:23 pm

"More than 6.6 million people filed new claims for unemployment benefits last week, the Labor Department said Thursday, setting a grim record for the second straight week.

"The latest claims brought the two-week total to nearly 10 million.

"The speed and scale of the job losses is without precedent. Until last month, the worst week for unemployment filings was 695,000 in 1982."



"A month ago, most forecasters still thought the United States could avoid a recession. Today, with the pandemic shuttering businesses and forcing vast layoffs, many economists are expecting a decline in gross domestic product that rivals the worst periods of the Great Depression." NYT

So, naturally, the Dow is up 435 points.

Or is that all about oil?
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Meno_ » Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm

Its more likely about the depression era tactic of support for the trade-base line, from the Fed, and other institutional and private sources.
The critical low appears to be 2000, however the 'mother of all baselines of support ' can go toward 1,500 or even lower.

The market support is 99% psychological, hence Trump's denials of the severity of the crises.

It has to do with his gamble, and the market is gambling.
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:59 pm

Meno and Biggie, also note concerning the DOW the past two weeks they can't even breach the 22,000-23,000 range.

This makes me believe that when things start falling or collapsing hard it will indeed from that range of numbers.

10,000 Biggie? Try 6,000-7,000 instead. 8) :evilfun: :lol: =D>
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:06 pm

Meno_ wrote:Its more likely about the depression era tactic of support for the trade-base line, from the Fed, and other institutional and private sources.
The critical low appears to be 2000, however the 'mother of all baselines of support ' can go toward 1,500 or even lower.

The market support is 99% psychological, hence Trump's denials of the severity of the crises.

It has to do with his gamble, and the market is gambling.


22,000-23,000 DOW seems to be the bridge line or baseline currently.

Then of course there is the S&P500....
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby iambiguous » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:18 pm

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10,000 Biggie? Try 6,000-7,000 instead. 8) :evilfun: :lol: =D>


Of course Nostradamus predicted it first.

Seriously, though, suppose the Dow does plummet all the way down to 6,000 points. What might the "real world" reflect back to us then?

Also, is there a point where the staggering human pain and suffering accruing with the pandemic might even give you pause?

Or will every single last one of us have to collapse to the ground writhing in agony?
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:20 pm

iambiguous wrote:"More than 6.6 million people filed new claims for unemployment benefits last week, the Labor Department said Thursday, setting a grim record for the second straight week.

"The latest claims brought the two-week total to nearly 10 million.

"The speed and scale of the job losses is without precedent. Until last month, the worst week for unemployment filings was 695,000 in 1982."



"A month ago, most forecasters still thought the United States could avoid a recession. Today, with the pandemic shuttering businesses and forcing vast layoffs, many economists are expecting a decline in gross domestic product that rivals the worst periods of the Great Depression." NYT

So, naturally, the Dow is up 435 points.

Or is that all about oil?


The Russians and Saudis haven't agreed on anything, I expect the oil markets to crash even more with this.

It might very well be the pin that pops the United States economic bubble especially when we're talking about domestic shale oil companies becoming delinquent declaring bankruptcy in mass.

Everybody also knows how the United States dollar is tied directly to international oil markets which is probably why the Trump administration is taking a more aggressive stance towards Venezuela recently.
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:25 pm

iambiguous wrote:
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10,000 Biggie? Try 6,000-7,000 instead. 8) :evilfun: :lol: =D>


Of course Nostradamus predicted it first.

Seriously, though, suppose the Dow does plummet all the way down to 6,000 points. What might the "real world" reflect back to us then?

Also, is there a point where the staggering human pain and suffering accruing with the pandemic might even give you pause?

Or will every single last one of us have to collapse to the ground writhing in agony?


The United States would take the path of the Soviet Union in collapse only much worse and on a greater scale with millions of Americans having the same amount of firepower as the police.

In words, chaos, civil war, violence, and infighting like the world has never seen before in any nation.

Then you have all those lovely continuity of government plans in place via nationwide martial law as well.

Things could get hairy very quickly overnight.
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:05 pm

Behold, I see a nation on the cusp of economic and existential collapse but it is a silent one as everybody is too attached to Twitter, Facebook, Xbox, PlayStation, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Tinder, or Pornhub quarantined inside their own homes to take notice. :lol: :-k :-"

I see millions of electronic screens glowing at night as we slowly entertain ourselves to death during this slow motion train wreck....

Better keep those high speed internet connections humming otherwise the peasants might become even more restless.


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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby promethean75 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:18 am

Hey you ain't gotta tell me. I've been a trigger happy nigga since two thousand and fiteen.
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