Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

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Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:17 am

promethean75 wrote:You wanna know what's on my mind? I'll tell ya what's on my fuckin mind.

Kayaks.

Deys a deep cove in falls lake off of 98 that I can't get to on foot. Well I probably could but the brush is so dense that I can't get a good cast off the shore. Now I know there's large mouth bass all up in that fucker, and I gotta get there if it kills me. Deep water with lots of structure in there... and that's where the lunkers hang out.

So I'm looking at fishing kayaks. Something less that 12 feet so I can get it into my van. Seen a nice'un on Craigslist for $500. Prolly shop around a bit more before buying one.


Nice, my little island getaway has an abundance of catfish and bass where I'm going to have to get use to eating both when this miserable piece of shit nation finally collapses. It also has an abundance of ducks and geese as well.

Promethean you know me man, I'm a straight up no bullshit kind of guy where I'm going to tell you something that you probably already know. When it's over for this bullshit fucking nation of imbeciles, chicken littles, or show boating morons I'm predicting $30.00 for a gallon of milk, I'm calling it right now. Wouldn't be surprised if we see those sorts of prices by next summer assuming there is a next summer at all...
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Postby promethean75 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:47 am

nope. deys a delicate balance maintained between price inflation and wage inflation that regulates the parasite's (capitalist) relationship to the host (consumer). if the price is too high, nobody can afford it, it won't be bought, and no profit will be made. a systemic dilemma evolves that makes these two - parasite and host - dependent on each other. to be able to afford paying higher prices, workers must be given more money... but if they're given more money, profits are reduced. sooooo, prices can't be raised (to gain more profit) unless workers have more money... but giving more more money would also reduce profits. it's a vicious circle that's precariously balanced. but there is a more fundamental conflict here that comes built into the system:

rosa lichtenstein wrote:These are the two main classes in the capitalist system: capitalist and worker (or, more specifically, under capitalism, worker = proletarian).

Here is why these two classes have irreconcilable differences:

A capitalist, call her, C, employs a worker, call her, NN. Let’s say NN is employed to help manufacture something or provide services. Unless C wants to go bust, she must pay NN less than the value of the goods or services NN makes or provides.

But, C is also caught up in a competitive market. Other companies will seek to undercut her or drive her out of business, so C must keep NN’s wages low, speed up her work, or invest in machinery that will increase NN’s productivity, and, more often than not, make her redundant.

This means there are irreconcilable differences between C and NN’s interests built into the system that neither C nor NN can opt out of. Capitalism forces all those caught up in it, on pain of bankruptcy or unemployment and penury, to submit themselves to the demands of this impersonal system.

Moreover, this system can’t be reformed without undermining the profit motive and the need for C to accumulate capital in order to compete effectively in the market.
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Postby promethean75 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:21 pm

and ya know what's so comical about all this? a long, long time ago a small handful of british bourgeois cigar smoking elites read spencer and darwin and got it into their head that what they were doing wuz the only 'natural' way... believing that vicious market competition was a healthy expression of the motto 'survival of the fittest'. then you add to this nonsense an assortment of christian narratives that also appear to justify private property and 'giving to a nigga his due, whatever, whatever', and you have a perfectly complete ideological crapshoot that would defend both capitalist ethics and economy and become the intellectual foundation for western civilization.

but here's the thing.

none of that bullshit is true, and its all been thoroughly refuted several times over. and if its been refuted, it means it never wuz true... which then means that there was something else driving these lazy fatfuck fancypants as they sat around complimenting each other on how great they were. i've explained this phenomena before as a kind of pseudo-neurosis that evolves as a defense mechanism (the rationalizing away of one's self contempt) to justify one's natural disposition to be a lazy fatfuck that doesn't want to work. so it's not that there was some philosophical troof out there waiting to be discovered, one that would not only explain the necessity of a competitive market (in either evolutionary or scientific terms) but also justify it as the only possible way. what happened wuz, you had groups of lazy fatfucks spanned out over centuries (going back as far as ancient grease) of time, making this shit up as thy went along so they wouldn't feel embarrassed in each other's company for being lazy fatfucks that didn't contribute anything to society and were totally useless to it.

and this crap has existed for so long that it's become part of the philosophical furniture. but we fixin to clean house, bro. we fixin to get woke af.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:48 pm

I'm not a communist or Marxist where as a state fascist even I can see these assholes fucking over the American working class bigly. Violent working class revolution and insurrection when?

It doesn't take a communist or Marxist to realize that the United States government has been fucking over the working class for decades where its latest moves with the Coronavirus is just blatant in your face criminality.

Death to the organized American oligarchy and plutocracy!
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Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:55 pm

So last week on Monday a bunch of yuppies were celebrating spring break despite the ongoing viral pandemic.

This is what resulted..



It gets even better, after enjoying spring break during a viral pandemic this is where they traveled afterwards tracking cellphone usage.....

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Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:12 pm

Promethean,

You know that when American fascists, liberals, and communists are starting to agree on certain things especially concerning economics shit is getting bad in your nation.

Under normal circumstances all three groups would normally despise and hate one another yet during these unnormal times I find it interesting we're coming to similar consensus on things, although few would like to admit such openly of course.
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Postby iambiguous » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:14 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:

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Yo, you forgot to point out the Dow is now headed back in the right direction. :wink:
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Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:18 pm

iambiguous wrote:
Yo, you forgot to point out the Dow is now headed back in the right direction. :wink:



Yeah, I was thinking about having Steve Mnuchin as the weeping widow below also. :lol: 8)
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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:12 am

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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:38 am

Coming to a town and city near you America.....

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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:48 am

Update: It's Martial Law Time... :evilfun:

Heads up folks.... :-"



To help with the Covid-19 coronavirus emergency, US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order authorizing the call-up of up to a million reserve military personnel in the army, navy, air force and coast guard.
Secretaries of Defense and Homeland Security – which is in charge of the Coast Guard units not subordinated to the Navy – are now authorized to order individual members and units of the Ready Reserve under their jurisdiction, to “active duty not to exceed 24 consecutive months,” Trump noted in the executive order signed Friday evening.

The number of mobilized reservists is “not to exceed 1,000,000 members on active duty at any one time.” The Pentagon and Homeland Security are supposed to ensure “appropriate consultation is undertaken with relevant state officials” about using National Guard reserves activated under this order.


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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:06 am

Donald Trump- "I have a good beautiful feeling about Easter Sunday, America will open right back up for Easter Sunday. "



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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:41 am



The Fed will finance a special purpose vehicle (SPV) for each acronym to conduct these operations. The Treasury, using the Exchange Stabilization Fund, will make an equity investment in each SPV and be in a “first loss” position. What does this mean? In essence, the Treasury, not the Fed, is buying all these securities and backstopping of loans; the Fed is acting as banker and providing financing. The Fed hired BlackRock Inc. to purchase these securities and handle the administration of the SPVs on behalf of the owner, the Treasury.

In other words, the federal government is nationalizing large swaths of the financial markets. The Fed is providing the money to do it. BlackRock will be doing the trades.

This scheme essentially merges the Fed and Treasury into one organization. So, meet your new Fed chairman, Donald J. Trump.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/feds-cur ... 52807.html

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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:03 am

Some people might be confused with some of my communist theme posts today, so allow me to clarify.

In the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s the American republican party came to be dominated and taken over by neoconservatives. The neoconservative movement interestingly enough politically was started by a bunch of ex Trotskyists and communists that immigrated to the United States. What they did in their sick, twisted, and perverse mindsets is inverse communism along with socialism where instead of a communism aimed at the poor it was flipped upside down to where it became an inverted communism for the wealthy only where today's too big to fail mentality comes from aided by the printing press of central banks. This in essence is privatizing the profits and socializing the losses, an inverse economic communism for the very wealthy only at everybody else's expense. The wealthy receive their own form of socialism and for everybody else there is only a darwinian jungle of rugged ruthless individualism.

The modern republican party becomes an inverted form of neo bolshevism that calls itself neoconservatism.

This is the root and origin of American crony capitalism which really upon more investigation is communism for the rich and wealthy only where everybody else is reduced to living in the global [United States] gulag archipelago.

It's communism for the wealthy masquerading as crony centrally planned state capitalism.

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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:41 am

So, how does our inverted communism for the wealthy and neo bolshevism that calls itself neoconservativism work in our current atmosphere? It was Marx and Engels that believed in order to transition to a communist state capitalism would have to be taken over temporarily into a sort of directed organized state capitalism to get there. Somewhere either out of disillusionment or greed our ex Trotskyists and ex communists in the United States calling themselves neoconservatives now did just that by transforming the nation into a centrally planned capitalist state however unlike communists before them they never had any intentions of creating a communist state for the working class where socialism would be afforded to a majority of the population where instead an inverted perverse form of socialism came to be for the very wealthy only. They of course transformed the United States into a centrally planned capitalist state through the Federal Reserve as a part of their collective aims.

What the Federal Reserve is doing now concerning our present economic dilemma is basically this, as the economy collapses the Federal Reserve through the government treasury will bailout everybody and buy all the financial debts thus propping up the markets by their ability to expand money out of thin air. After this goes on for a couple of years the Federal Reserve and government [which it owns through a variety of corporate conglomerates anyways] will own everything and everybody. So in essence just like state communism where the centrally planned state owns everything transforming it into state property to which everybody just rents. [Remember, our centrally planned capitalist state in reality is a communist state for the very wealthy.]

A rentier state form of capitalism was merely the final stages of achieving state communism or the inverted socialism of the wealthy we're discussing here.

Unlike communist governments of the past controlled by the proletariat this inverted communism and socialism for the very wealthy only is a revolution of the politburo or the intelligentsia. Unlike classical libertarianism or laissez faire capitalism where everything is organized via privatization by the majority of the population, here you have a politburo that essentially owns everything where everybody is renters with the illusion of private property. The inverted communism here is the revolution of the politburo or intelligentsia not the working class proletariat.

In many ways this inverted communism for the very wealthy only is a kind of neo feudalism but unlike the historical feudalism of the past where feudal lords failed or thrived by their own individual merits where there was some semblance of natural competition in equilibrium the inverted form of communism for the very wealthy is one where the entire politburo collectively has all the public welfare, safety nets, and economic socialist musings for themselves only where they create an environment for themselves where they have all the rewards of such a system but mitigating also where they have no individual risks or losses. They eliminate all forms of natural competition that they find endangering themselves concerning their naked acquisition of raw power.

They create a pure form of socialism for themselves reducing everybody else to the unwashed masses, peasants,chattel, servants, and slaves meant to serve under them as they reduce everything to state property to which they effectively control all the means of production that they socialize for themselves upon everybody else's loss or financial expense. You must remember here, in the eyes of these individuals a majority of people in a given population are cattle or human livestock only to be harvested for themselves. You're merely a depreciating human asset or resource to be utilized and then disposed of once you lose your usefulness for them. You exist only to serve them, you exist only as a means to their end.




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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:02 pm

Meanwhile in New York state hospitals.....

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Postby Gloominary » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:Meanwhile in New York state hospitals.....


That environment doesn't look too healthy.
Unless I felt like I was on the verge of death, I'm not going to get tested or treated.
While generally I'm not squeamish about germs, when you're already quite ill, being in a crowded place like that, not only do you have your own strains of corona, flu and cold viruses to deal with, but you're being exposed to hundreds of other people's strains of corona, flu and cold viruses too.
No wonder millions of people die in hospitals every year, lol.
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Postby Gloominary » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:57 pm

Oh, I saw that post of yours where you said Denmark passed a bill permitting law enforcement to forcibly test and inoculate adults.
Very interesting.
I found an article the other day corroborating what you said.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20200313/denmark-passes-far-reaching-emergency-coronavirus-law
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Postby Gloominary » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:04 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:Meanwhile in New York state hospitals.....


That environment doesn't look too healthy.
Unless I felt like I was on the verge of death, I'm not going to get tested or treated.
While generally I'm not squeamish about germs, when you're already quite ill, being in a crowded place like that, not only do you have your own strains of corona, flu and cold viruses to deal with, but you're being exposed to hundreds of other people's strains of corona, flu and cold viruses too.
No wonder millions of people die in hospitals every year, lol.

I guess social distancing sort of goes straight out the window once you enter some hospitals, particularly small, underfunded ones in poor neighborhoods.
Goes to show you how much the political and financial establishment really loves people, especially poor black people.
This is why I'm skeptical whenever government says it wants to keep us safe.
Keep us safe is code for gather, fleece and slaughter the sheep.
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The US’ Northern Command has sent teams of essential staff deep underground to wait out the Covid-19 pandemic. On the surface, more than a million grunts won’t be quite as cocooned.
Air Force General Terrence O’Shaughnessy heads up the US’ Northern Command, as well as the North American Aerospace Defense Command – a joint US/Canadian operation that monitors the skies over North America for missile and airborne threats. Earlier this week, O’Shaughnessy told reporters via Facebook that some of his watch teams would be moved from their usual command center at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado to a number of hardened underground bunkers.

One of these facilities is the Cheyenne Mountain bunker complex, a warren of tunnels buried under 2,000 feet (610m) of granite, and sealed behind blast doors designed to withstand a 30 megaton nuclear explosion.

Our dedicated professionals of the NORAD and NORTHCOM command and control watch have left their homes, said goodbye to their families, and are isolated from everyone to ensure they can stand the watch each and every day to defend our homeland,” O’Shaughnessy said. He also said that personnel sent underground will share the bunker with other members of the military, but he is “not at liberty to discuss who’s moving in there.”

Another team has been sent to an undisclosed location, O’Shaughnessy added.



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Postby Zero_Sum » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:57 pm



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"I'm sorry, but the lifestyle you've ordered that you've grown accustomed to is completely out of stock. Have a nice day! "-$$$

“Assuming one can never leave permanent social exile and alienation keep on living only to observe the total collapse of entire societies, nations, or civilizations where afterwards in the inevitable chaos revel in its total destruction taking satisfaction within it as a casual witness. Let it all burn and come crashing down in a festival or spectacle orgy of violence.”-Myself

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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby promethean75 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:01 pm

I've rewritten the lyrics of ^^^ song to make it a bit more appropriate.

https://vocaroo.com/bFN4xeZDOZF

Take your time.... if you're weasing
When your throat is dry
And this time... ain't gonna be so easy
If you've got pre-existing conditions
Keep your social distance and wash your hands
Whenever you are done
Touching things without gloves on both haaaands...
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