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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:36 pm

promethean75 wrote:Alright here's what you do.

If you don't have any warrants for your arrest, you can from from them when they try to take you into custody for transport to the fema camp, without incurring any charges (resisting arrest). So you lose nothing by running, and you sure as shit don't wanna go to a fema camp because all they do is play checkers and read old People magazines all day. If you run, and they catch you, your good (legally), and off you go. So you might as well run as a first option. And don't worry, they won't shoot at you. If a neighbor saw it and got it to the news media, well... they think they got problems now? Let the country find out government is shooting at citizens who resist detention. Total chaos in less than 24 hrs. The government wouldn't dare take that risk (not yet. not yet.)


I have a fall back position to go to if it gets that bad, kind of a hike but I know where to go.

I'm a small fish or nobody really where I'm not worried about them coming for me, at least that's what I like to think. I'm pretty much holding up here lying low under the radar, I rarely venture outside.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:28 pm

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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby iambiguous » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:07 pm

Here we go: THE BIG GAMBLE?

"President Trump is weighing calls from some Republican lawmakers and White House advisers to scale back steps to contain the coronavirus despite the advice of federal health officials as a growing number of conservatives argue that the impact on the economy has become too severe, according to several people with knowledge of the internal deliberations.

"Loosening restrictions on social distancing would override the internal warnings of senior U.S. health officials, including Anthony S. Fauci, who have said that the United States has not yet felt the worst of the pandemic.

“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” Trump said in a tweet late Sunday. “AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!”

"The 15-day period is set to end on March 30."
WP March 23, 2020

So, in a week, which way will we go here in America? And this is not just an economic question of course. If Trump gambles on scaling back "social distancing", and, as a result, the infections explode, lots and lots and lots of people could die.

And the economic nosedive might be that much worse.

Or, sure, he could "reboot" the economy, new infections don't go through the roof, the economy becomes bullish again and the gamble pays off.

Seven days and counting?

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"But there could be consequences to ending the measures too quickly. The recent rise of cases in Hong Kong, after there had been an easing of the spread of the virus, is something of an object lesson about how ending strict measures too soon can have dangerous consequences.

"In a tweet on Monday morning, Thomas Bossert, the former homeland security adviser who for weeks has been vocal about the need for the U.S. government to take stricter measures, said, “Sadly, the numbers now suggest the U.S. is poised to take the lead in #coronavirus cases. It’s reasonable to plan for the US to top the list of countries with the most cases in approximately 1 week. This does NOT make social intervention futile. It makes it imperative!”
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Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:09 pm

iambiguous wrote:Here we go: THE BIG GAMBLE?

"President Trump is weighing calls from some Republican lawmakers and White House advisers to scale back steps to contain the coronavirus despite the advice of federal health officials as a growing number of conservatives argue that the impact on the economy has become too severe, according to several people with knowledge of the internal deliberations.

"Loosening restrictions on social distancing would override the internal warnings of senior U.S. health officials, including Anthony S. Fauci, who have said that the United States has not yet felt the worst of the pandemic.

“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” Trump said in a tweet late Sunday. “AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!”

"The 15-day period is set to end on March 30."
WP March 23, 2020

So, in a week, which way will we go here in America? And this is not just an economic question of course. If Trump gambles on scaling back "social distancing", and, as a result, the infections explode, lots and lots and lots of people could die.

And the economic nosedive might be that much worse.

Or, sure, he could "reboot" the economy, new infections don't go through the roof, the economy becomes bullish again and the gamble pays off.

Seven days and counting?

From the NYT:

"But there could be consequences to ending the measures too quickly. The recent rise of cases in Hong Kong, after there had been an easing of the spread of the virus, is something of an object lesson about how ending strict measures too soon can have dangerous consequences.

"In a tweet on Monday morning, Thomas Bossert, the former homeland security adviser who for weeks has been vocal about the need for the U.S. government to take stricter measures, said, “Sadly, the numbers now suggest the U.S. is poised to take the lead in #coronavirus cases. It’s reasonable to plan for the US to top the list of countries with the most cases in approximately 1 week. This does NOT make social intervention futile. It makes it imperative!”


Alex, I'll go with most American lives are disposable or expendable including their health for a loose failed bioweapon all over the world to prop up a dying currency and economy along with someone desperately trying to get politically reelected.
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Re: Predictions from Zero_Sum and a heart felt greeting.

Postby promethean75 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:21 pm

Alex can't sell you a vowel, but the guy on Wheel of Fortune might.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:30 pm

promethean75 wrote:Alex can't sell you a vowel, but the guy on Wheel of Fortune might.


Oh shit, I forgot. Good call. :lol:
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Postby promethean75 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:36 pm

Just don't let it happen again.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:40 pm

promethean75 wrote:Just don't let it happen again.


:lol: 8)
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Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:55 am

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Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:30 am

Bloomberg News- "U.S Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is seeking to tap executives from Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and other Wall Street firms to help oversee more than $200 billion in bailout packages."
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Postby promethean75 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:25 pm

I have a fall back position to go to if it gets that bad, kind of a hike but I know where to go.


*nods*

Alright a few things to remember. NEVER make a campfire at night... and if you must burn one during the day, don't use wet wood and try to avoid burning pine. The smoke density is ridiculous. You might as well shout through a bullhorn 'HERE I AM, GUYS!!'

You'll want to do your resting/sleeping during the day in a concealed spot. I like to sleep in hollowed tree trunks or under water, myself. I use a bamboo breathing stick. At night is when you move. Go into town for scavenging or to find some Mad Maxines who might be looking for a tough guy to team up with. Btw, have you been doing your push-ups?
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Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:06 pm

promethean75 wrote:
*nods*

Alright a few things to remember. NEVER make a campfire at night... and if you must burn one during the day, don't use wet wood and try to avoid burning pine. The smoke density is ridiculous. You might as well shout through a bullhorn 'HERE I AM, GUYS!!'

You'll want to do your resting/sleeping during the day in a concealed spot. I like to sleep in hollowed tree trunks or under water, myself. I use a bamboo breathing stick. At night is when you move. Go into town for scavenging or to find some Mad Maxines who might be looking for a tough guy to team up with. Btw, have you been doing your push-ups?


Yep, sleep during the day and travel at night. [Bring your night vision goggles.]

I'm a skinny wiry fucker, I am not at all muscular built.

I'm very good at camouflage, I use to sleep on a college campus behind bushes near a well traversed sidewalk when I was homeless. I could beat off behind the bushes and nobody would know I was there even during daylight hours, I'm pretty good.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:12 pm

As I was trying to tell other people on another forum shortly before becoming banned because a majority of people these days are gutless cowards without intellectual integrity, for me this is the single greatest historical event of our era. It is essentially the total collapse of the current social world order and for me that is a good thing.

Imagine if you will the simultaneous collapse of political neo-liberalism, economic crony capitalism, western radical feminism, and all other forms of modern degeneracy. For me this a bow tie wrapped gift dropped into our laps.

The time of a massive guerilla style insurrection, uprising, and revolution is drawing near.

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Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:42 pm

The Fed's Prayer

The Fed is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in greenbacks:

He leadeth me beside deep pools of liquidity.

He restoreth my balance sheet:

He leadeth me in the paths of ponzi for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of trillions in debt,

I will fear no losses: for thou art with me;

Thy plunge protection team and thy zero-bound interest rates they comfort me.

Thou preparest unearned income before me in the presence of mine enemies:

Thou anointest my head with currency; my bank accounts runneth over.

Surely profits and bonuses shall follow me all the days of my life:

And I will dwell in the house of Wall Street forever.

Amen
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Postby iambiguous » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:10 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:The Fed's Prayer

The Fed is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in greenbacks:

He leadeth me beside deep pools of liquidity.

He restoreth my balance sheet:

He leadeth me in the paths of ponzi for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of trillions in debt,

I will fear no losses: for thou art with me;

Thy plunge protection team and thy zero-bound interest rates they comfort me.

Thou preparest unearned income before me in the presence of mine enemies:

Thou anointest my head with currency; my bank accounts runneth over.

Surely profits and bonuses shall follow me all the days of my life:

And I will dwell in the house of Wall Street forever.

Amen


I think they heard it. The Dow is now up over 1,600 points.

Or maybe it's all the bailout booty coming from the Senate. :wink:
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Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:05 pm

iambiguous wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:The Fed's Prayer

The Fed is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in greenbacks:

He leadeth me beside deep pools of liquidity.

He restoreth my balance sheet:

He leadeth me in the paths of ponzi for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of trillions in debt,

I will fear no losses: for thou art with me;

Thy plunge protection team and thy zero-bound interest rates they comfort me.

Thou preparest unearned income before me in the presence of mine enemies:

Thou anointest my head with currency; my bank accounts runneth over.

Surely profits and bonuses shall follow me all the days of my life:

And I will dwell in the house of Wall Street forever.

Amen


I think they heard it. The Dow is now up over 1,600 points.

Or maybe it's all the bailout booty coming from the Senate. :wink:


Temporary ramp up, it will go back down again by the end of the week.

It's known as a suckers or morons ramp up. It's a trap to steal people's money.
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Postby iambiguous » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:43 pm

March 20th, 2020...

Zero_Sum wrote:We're getting closer to my DOW 15,000 mark. DOW 15,000 is when the military lockdown begins in my humble opinion. My guess, between Monday-Wednesday next week. A distinct possibility concerning Sunday overnight markets also going into Monday morning.


Today...

DOW at 20,704.91
+2,112.98 points (11.37%)

Come on, admit you were wrong that time. :wink:
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Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:28 pm

iambiguous wrote:March 20th, 2020...

Zero_Sum wrote:We're getting closer to my DOW 15,000 mark. DOW 15,000 is when the military lockdown begins in my humble opinion. My guess, between Monday-Wednesday next week. A distinct possibility concerning Sunday overnight markets also going into Monday morning.


Today...

DOW at 20,704.91
+2,112.98 points (11.37%)

Come on, admit you were wrong that time. :wink:


It's only Tuesday, a lot can happen between now and Friday 3:30pm eastern standard time.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:57 am

What if this Covid 19 is a bioweapon escaped from the United States and not China? If the rest of the world found out that the United States was behind it all, I wonder what the dire consequences for the U.S. would be afterwards.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:59 am

Deaths from Covid 19 [Coronavirus] in the United States and Italy are increasing not declining.

America open for business by Easter? :lol: 8)

Yeah, I don't fucking think so! :-"

China isn't even open for business as usual three months later after the outbreak.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:05 am

Personal update: I went to go start my car yesterday and the fucking engine wouldn't turn over from the starter. The damn starter picked an inconvenient time to not work.

Thankfully we got that $1000.00-$2000.00 check coming, right? :lol: 8)

I still say it won't be worth anything by the time we get it.
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