What Was It That I Experienced?

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What Was It That I Experienced?

Postby Del Ivers » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:40 pm

I'm going to relate a brief story here. It's a true story, and though some may get into all the 'relative' aspects of what is true, I mean it in the simplest sense that if someone were to say to me that maybe I was imagining it I would reply that no, this was not my imagination, I really saw it.

Living in Nevada I've traveled over the years to many desert areas whether on a day's road trip or camping. On this particular day trip a friend and I visited an area which is nice in that along with desert features it also has abundant foliage and some water features. While we were hiking around my friend excused himself to go to the restroom which was at a ranger facility not too far away. I sat down and enjoyed the view waiting for him to return.

Now, anyone that likes the outdoors knows that if you're out in nature your field of view will immediately register something that's not natural. For example, if a car appears you will more than likely notice it right away. It doesn't even have to be near, it could be at a distance but its motion compared to the rest of the view will be a little 'off'. Same as when you've been hiking and suddenly your peripheral vision notices a jet plane and its trail high in the sky.

Such was the case when sitting there waiting for my friend my peripheral vision picked up something. In a split-second assessment I figured it must be a car because of its determined, uniform motion. It was in an area that had a road by a body of water so I thought it could have been a car, maybe one of the ranger vehicles because there were really no other people that my friend and I had seen thus far.

But then I focused on the area of the motion. In the following quick sketch made with a graphics program I show what I saw. Please note that for this image I looked around for a photo that had some features that more or less look like the area. I think I do have some photos of the exact area but I'd have to go looking through backup CDs from a previous computer I had.If I fond those photos later on then I will try and make a more accurate rendition of the scene.

Image of object in the desert

As I focused on this 'thing', it was moving smoothly. If I were to gauge its speed I would say maybe 10-15mph. It made no noise, at least from where I was looking at it there was no sound to it.

The front part,on the right, seemed like irregular shapes. It looked like tubes of some sort, maybe knobs on top of the tubes, and other features that just made it all seem a lot more irregular than what I've sketched here. If some of you are familiar with what a combine harvester looks like think of that difference in the front with all the apparatus compared to the rear which in some harvesters look truck-like. But in this case the front was more complicated looking than a regular harvester.

Seeing the irregularity of those shapes by the foliage I thought that it could just be leaves and branches, etc., that along with the light made shadows. But then as I looked at the rear, to the left in image, that's when I just kind of froze and looked intently. The back was a straight line that went for maybe around 12 feet and then it angled down and back again in a straight line to form a perfect looking trapezoid shape. That was no shadow created by leaves, branches, whatever. This 'machine' or whatever it was moved along and then after 10 seconds or so just evaporated from view.

I just sat there looking in the direction of what I had seen. In my mind I was elated, I was thinking what it was that I just witnessed, that when my friend returns I'm going to tell him about it. But then something weird happened.

As my mind was expanding with all of this and feeling excited about it, I felt a strange sensation from my body. More accurately, it's as if my 'body mind' completely separate from what my mind was thinking said: "I'm really glad that whatever that thing was, that it was over there and not here". So, whereas my mind was elated and joyful about the experience, my body mind, the "gut" reaction, seemed to feel a tremendous unease about the situation and it was dead serious about its reaction to it. So much so, that even when I was thinking about telling my friend about what had happened that part of me flat-out said, "Don't tell him anything."

I was stunned by this separation of body and mind. Sure enough, when my friend returned I said nothing to him about the experience. The next day I got around to telling him what happened and he was surprised and fascinated about what I'd seen but even more so surprised about my not saying anything about it. Needless to say, no more surprised than me.

For the next couple of days after my friend returned to LA, I went over the scene trying to make some logic out of it. Was it a shadow? Well, the sun was too high in the sky for it to be making shadows at that angle. A vehicle? The nearest road out there from that direction is 5 miles away. A distance like that and angle of sun were out of the question as explanation. The foliage? Perhaps for the front part as I've mentioned but foliage does not make for a uniformly moving object with a perfect trapezoid-looking configuration at the rear of it.

Earlier, my friend and I had taken a couple of puffs of some herb, but it was light in its THC content and for us that's about all we can handle at our respective ages. We're not old-old but neither are we young as we once were. Furthermore, when you're in the outdoors you can't afford to let things get out of control in any measure. So we had a nice 'buzz' as one would from drinking half a glass of white wine. Percentage-wise, think of it as 20% high/80% control. In other words, this was not some blown out psychedelic/mushroom experience or anything even remotely like it. In fact, if it had been I don't even want to think how my body would have reacted to what I witnessed. I can just imagine my friend returning and seeing me running toward and then past him voicing something unintelligible in a loud voice. He would have just stood there thinking, "WTF?" :-D

So no, a mild buzz like that is nowhere near an "off-world" experience. The last experience I had in that category was oddly enough on Easter Sunday, 36 years ago to the day in Titus Canyon in Death Valley, California with an ex-girlfriend. A funny aside from that, when we got back to our room we were still high but gliding down from the zenith. There were times we we got high and had sex and all that but we were so out there in another place from the day's experience that we each got on top of the double beds in the room and started doing yoga poses. At one point i said to her, "Can you imagine if a maid walked in right now and saw this?" We both immediately collapsed on the beds laughing uncontrollably for a while. :-D

Anyway, that's the story of the experience I had. What was it that I experienced? I have no idea but there's no denying that I did see something and especially no denying the weirdness of how my body reacted to it compared to what my mind was thinking. I thought afterwards of accounts of animals and how they got quiet or would flee when they sensed something paranormal, etc. Was this the 'primitive' mind reacting to something that my 'modern' mind was interpreting in a different way? I just don't know. It definitely qualifies as probably the most vivid experience I've had in this category but the take away is that however wondrous the experience may have been, that there was another side to it that my body-mind registered, And who knows, maybe even protected me from.

What do you think of this situation as I have interpreted it? It was quite palpable and real, not some hallucination. Have you had any experiences like this?

Thanks for reading.

Daniel V.


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Re: What Was It That I Experienced?

Postby barbarianhorde » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:02 pm

Hmmm... very weird. The split gut and mind interestingly alarming. Telling or suggestive of a lot that is probably best left unsaid by anyone but you.

Not too long ago, a years or so a friend of mine and his girlfriend were on a lookout on a mountaintop and they saw these weirdly structured points of light hovering above them, moving chaotically yet symmetrically around a more solid object that was also emitting light. There were a lot of people on the lookout but they were the only ones noticing the thing overhead. In a sense, maybe its predictable that people on a high point overlooking a valley don't tend to look up. But thats not the point.

The point is that things are getting somewhat uncanny pon the earf.
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Re: What Was It That I Experienced?

Postby Del Ivers » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:40 am

barbarianhorde wrote:The split gut and mind interestingly alarming. Telling or suggestive of a lot that is probably best left unsaid by anyone but you.


If I had had that experience before with other things then I guess I could say that this particular one was in line somehow with something more psychological in me. But while I've been of "two minds" at times like most people have it was never like this where the contrasts were so sharply defined, a situation with possible unforeseen consequences. I never feared for my safety while experiencing this but the body-reaction seemed to be one where it would make sure that there was nothing to fear - as long as there was a distance between 'that' and me.

Here is a 3D sketch done in SketchUp. I forgot to mention that the object was dark yet slightly transparent. The front part is an abstraction of the pieces that I saw. Imagine it more like an array of plumbing pipes of some sort. The person figure is for scale and around 5'9".

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Re: What Was It That I Experienced?

Postby barbarianhorde » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:17 pm

Yeah, usually there is some coherence or path between a mind and gut reaction.

It makes sense that, when there is something out of an entirely... alien context, then the engage and flee impulses can be quite equal and not seeming to interfere, to have much to do with each other.

That looks like some sort of sample taking unit.
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Re: What Was It That I Experienced?

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:16 pm

UFO (UGO unidentified ground object). Was your phone available to capture the sight? And will you be going back to the location? Also, has anyone else reported such a sighting in that area?
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Re: What Was It That I Experienced?

Postby Del Ivers » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:04 pm

Ms. Darling

I have heard of UAO's (unidentified aquatic objects) but not UGO's. Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the acronym. :-)

I answer your questions in order:

Yes, a phone was available and I even had a small, Lumix camera in a pocket. But the sighting of the object before it vanished was no more than 10-12 seconds and as I noted in the account it just kind of froze all my attention on what was transpiring. Afterwards, I too thought it would have been good to take a photo but the sequence of events was just too quick. Even if when I first saw it I went for the camera by the time I'd lift it for the shot the object would have been gone.

Yes, I have been to that location many times (no ufo/ugo incidents before) and I will be going back again, maybe August-September. Maybe this time I will get a strap for the camera and keep it handy just in case. Then again, I go out there to relax and for meditation, I don't want to spend the day in a UFO state of mind. But I will keep the camera handier.

Yes, there have been sightings in that general area. In fact I went to a website called 'UFO Hunters', they have maps of the area marking where there have been sightings. In the particular area where I was there were no markers, the nearest one was around 10 miles or more away.

If I may ask, are you somehow involved in research in this field or just out of curiosity re my account?
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Re: What Was It That I Experienced?

Postby WendyDarling » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:59 am

Curiosity on my part. Did the nearest reported sighting have any similar pics of what they saw?
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Re: What Was It That I Experienced?

Postby Del Ivers » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:55 am

WendyDarling wrote:Did the nearest reported sighting have any similar pics of what they saw?

They seemed more your standard type of UFO: circular, lights, orbs, etc. All aerial, none ground objects.

I don't post the location here because the place is a delicate eco-area that's been getting more use every year. I will send you a PM with the location and some details. At least you'll have an idea geographically and explore online from that.
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