Looking four lost Turd

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Looking four lost Turd

Postby moonlight » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:51 am

Looking for user Turd. I know him as Branden, hairy blue eies, sweat skin burns easy with spots,
met him at a airport on way back from Windhoek. He wrote a book I want to return to him,
was very informative. He taught me much, but lost contact with him, he moves much. I
remember he was sad about family he found in Pakistan, the father had PTSD, after return
was hitting people in Canada said he felt blame, showed me this site when asking his
past and how he knew so much. Took me long time searching to find this place again. He
had weird poo name, but wrote on deepest knowledge. I never met someone like that
before. I last heard he was in hospital from shot helping friend quit criminal, angry that such
good man might die from helping but he may live. Not respond to emails since May. I live in
Shenzhen. He knows me, was to visit but fallen off earth. Poor but travels a lot, so don’t
know where he is if alive. I have job four him if found, enough to live good in Shenzhen for family
business, dad will hire as designer, he made good inventions in book, and should have good life
as four good men, no more wander. He was beautiful, most comfortable, but did not seem to
know, always troubled by other needs. Why all every best roam forever lost? 映月

P.S. He no longer writes on net but had friends email. Remember he wrote no eyes woman,
can’t find her anywhere in pots. Sorry if I wrote wrong, or misunderstands. English is one of
many language four me. Hope every things is safe four him. He bled first saw in airport, had
cuts and brewsers. He risks a lot helping, wish he running far four others. Hope not last to read
his books. To secretive and personal in isolated world.

Just say if he is good, where? Have him check email.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby MagsJ » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:48 pm

You lost a Turd?

I hope you find him, and find him well..
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:15 am

He's been gone from here for a long time. I'm surprised that he hasn't come back.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:20 am

He did.. made one post under some username or other.. everyone knew it was him, and he vowed.. after that one post, never to return again.. I guess that avowal made it two. :confusion-shrug:
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:21 am

Ahhh
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
Dating a stripper is like eating a noisy bag of chips in church. Everyone looks at you in disgust, but deep down they want some too.

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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Meno_ » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:09 am

I thought he went by another name back THEN.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby moonlight » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:30 am

Sorry, VPN had to reset using wifi on american, this web place not on China web. His name is Brandon, write wrong spelling, u r correct.

I don't have his Hoanib group anymore fore contact, met few at airport hotel when return, they always going to same desolate place, and they argued on it. he hated it, said was too hot and far to keep their stuff, and bug animals, and expensive, even though he didn't pay four it. Was bittin, not stab. I found his friend from book, but he was gone when sent, and no body knows court. I don't know how bad. He had army friend, was upset to stop him. I look at Newport News and Tideswater. No burial or obituaries, but no contact on web. I don't know. Hope good.

Who is blind porsen? He wrote her hear when with me, she is hear, she Has other email. He isn't on WeChat anymore, and not on Skype, nor is jefferson volney group still working. His smokestack lightning music group gone, tried contacting mut YouTube no longer has it. Biohacking forum gone. Just everything gone. I can't find where his community moved archive besides the spot in hoanib, so only questions. Stranger and stranger more I look.

Tell him Gmail and hanmail don't work anymore.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:32 am

May be he doesn't want to be found?

If he was suffering from (untreated) PTSD, why was he hanging around with rough and unsavoury types.. it wouldn't have helped his symptoms or anxiety one bit.. throwing yourself head first into the lion's den doesn't resolve such things.

The visually-impaired young lady you speak of is Maya.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby moonlight » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:56 pm

Maya has one message long ago, talks with eyes

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=140005&start=50

He not near lions, only heard them. He was bitten by laughing dog from lion king, they though his mercury tilting telescope was water. He tried standing on mercury away from them but he lost balance, thought was poisoned when fell over, they bite hose and pump and he had to use replacement gallium, his moon pictures not as good with gallium, gallium worst with sand. He was very anger with trip, nothing went right. Sand kept blowing at nite, and so had film to screen off constantly, and people poor help with him. He has tooth mark on hand. He Don't like Africa, bit I had good safari when I went, but I had safety though. He had old truck no gun, just wrench and isolation, no phone, darkness. Lots of laughing dogs. He said fuck moon, fuck desert, fuck africa.

He may be hiding, many have his name too. Hard to find him. Maya is 2004, one post with eyes talk. He said she British, this Maya is Australian.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:10 pm

Oh yes.. it's Maia, not Maya.

I hope you find him, and I hope that when you do, that he is of more relaxed character.. it's not healthy being otherwise.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Maia » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:13 am

Sorry, I've only just noticed this thread. I can confirm that I was in regular contact with the individual in question for well over two years years until 25 July this year when our communication stopped abruptly, without warning or hint of anything being wrong. I have his email address, of course, but I'm not going to give it out to any third party. If anyone has any message they'd like me to put in an email for him, I'd be very happy to do so.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby MagsJ » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:14 pm

Tell him I said "Hi"
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Maia » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:05 pm

I've emailed him and sent him a link to this thread.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby surreptitious75 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:23 am


I miss the Turd he was incredibly well read and wonderfully opinionated so I hope he is fine
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Maia » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:46 am

Still no word from him.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:41 am

Ask him who he voted for.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Meno_ » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:24 pm

I think he first went by a conventional name like William something Anderson , at the time living under a bridge with wife and kid. His writing was unique.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Maia » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:54 am

[I've received this from "Turd" dated 15 January.]

I’m not dead, and even sent surreptitious75 a email over at the other forum warning him that I was being stalked. I thought it had to do with the hostages I found in Afghanistan at first from this thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=192071&hilit=Boyle+Kurram.

I’ve since come to the conclusion it was only just a very dedicated local stalker who saw me on Instagram and did a absurd amount of background research on me. I never been to Africa, but did advise some technical issues involving a liquid tilt telescope to some boers in Angola, but they messed it up when they mixed Gallium (reflective liquid used as a mirror) with aluminum piping, which caused their telescope to literally melt. I thought they would use copper or plastic piping like everyone else, but live and learn. I have known several women over the years from China, be it Dalian, Hong Kong and Inner Mongolia. Never ever wanted to move to Shen Zhen. That place borders Hong Kong and is extremely corrupt, and to be honest, I just seriously doubt I could make it there, and the motivation just isn’t there. The Hong Kong girl is a rich socialite who offered me a job, but I’d be a white monkey, and seriously considered she posted that to fuck with me, but she just isn’t the type to research it that far. Some of that stuff in that post is just absolutely made up, other like my hand being bite by a hyena is true, but that was a small incident that happened back in my army days and I never mentioned it online and can’t find it mentioned online. So was crossed between thinking it was a spy for someone till I met the stalker and eventually convinced her I was really quite unimpressive. Took a lot of effort too, cause she still followed my first then second Instagram account, but eventually she left me alone. Just was creepy as hell with her figuring out my schedule and bumping into me. I no longer have a active account, and am back to clipping my toe nails, and am silently stalking terrorists online again. Didn’t for the longest time, and not just cause of stalker girl, that thread where I found Joshua Boyle causes a massive political meltdown with the right in Canada. Sucks being the guy who started something for good reasons and then see public opinion morph into absurdities on both sides. I’ve largely just been silently working otherwise on my projects. I’m almost done building a solar bicycle camper, hope to turn it into a plastic and welding station here soon, already have my 3-D printer for it, will add a Zinc melter to it in the spring. I’ve also been doing thermography, as well as Infared photography. Worked on a few ancient texts, found a Pre-Platonic Socratic dialogue that Plato plagerized from, as well as slow readings into Assyrian science and my never ending task of piecing together the Persian Royal Archives from histories preserved in the west. Also made a handful of psychological breakthroughs.

I’m really not needed on ILovePhilosophy because a very strange phenomena has occurred. For the damnest of reasons Fixed Cross started increasingly adopting many of my ideas and even outright wording I’ve used central to his own. I did some searches and it keeps popping up. Only explanation I can come up with is he thinks the nobility and upper classes bend over and adopt the beliefs and cultures of others, and I told him it wasn’t the duty of a noble to bend over and take it for the changing vagaries of culture and sentiment (the essence of what I said, not my words). I find it bizarre how he as a Egoist, Nihilist, Nietzschean Non-Dualist who uses crypto-Nazi ideologies will go out of his way to harvest my ideas when I am not a Egoist, don’t think Nigilism is even a real thing, not a nietzschean, and have been very much opposed to Non-Duality longer than he or Sauwelios even knew it existed. Non-Duality and Egoism are inherently contradictory belief systems, they simply put can’t be made to work together without systemic contradictions popping up. Of course, heavy drug use help blocks this logical realization. To them it is all sign and signal, the persona is the self and instincts come from Freudian realms that Freud really just took from Nietzsche. It is the emphasis first on language, from language you can ask silly Cartesian questions like “Who Am I” and stare at your hand when high as a kite wiggling it in front of you, and live largely divorced from the reality of the world. Why they are obsessed with drug use, you don’t have to go in-depth accurately studying yourself in your surroundings, forming synergistic strategies for survival. You just use drugs that increase the magnitude of a mental state devoid of the underlining purposes inherent in that state. Fear without cause doesn’t make one superior at avoiding and adapting to danger, elation from a pill doesn’t reward the hard learned task or effort involved in advantageous discovery, in knowing a real thing really is good for you or your community. They just pop a few pills, get high, and think they conquered the mind and philosophy. Never occurred to them that most of the mind involved in observational analysis and abstract synthesis doesn’t use ego or language. Why I so often mocked the professor Satre, why I mocked Zoots, it was largely meaningless word games. Word games don’t free the hostage. Word games don’t create the invention. They don’t carry the trial and tribulation. The senses of self we have come and go in these states, as well as our appreciation for ourselves emotionally and that of others. I largely look at Nietzscheans as idiot retards fast seeking a dead end, all too often intentionally. In the case of Fixed Cross, he seems he’ll bent on adopting a closeted Nazi ideology so he can make it safe for his Jewish idenity he insists on having. He only does this because he must really hate himself, he seeks out those who obviously must want him dead as his fellows.... that deSade libertine desire to be fatalistically betrayed by your compatriot in evil, a maschosism that exists between insisting on a sense of self largely ideologically and at best loosely historically constructed, and logical syllogisms that seek to balance out and avoid paradox, but they never really do if you are honest and assert truth. So I really don’t get Fixed Cross’s fascination with adopting my ideas. I am a classic INTJ who much like Nietzsche wouldn’t hesitate to destroy any sense of self I might have in order to survive a inevitable traumatic defeat or tragic end, I would and have become someone else in character. It is part survival and part growth, and is a trial of clashing psychology with a inner sense of being, of saying I can’t be this personality thinking in this way anymore. But I still survive and carry on. I hate or love aspects but the whole of my being continued on. My sense of threat and continuation, unity of soul- however transfixed and traumatized it is carried on, causality and history does. I only smash constructs and the mind and associations attached to them. In Fixed Cross’s Egoist Non-Duality he can’t. He is make believe, the only thing holding him just above the abyss of nihilism, he is the self, that is all that is, and it acts like a little homoculmus- a little man inside the head, controlling the brain, synchronizing it with reality reactively as well as assertively, in some silly Will To Power paradox. It of course doesn’t match up remotely with the psychology and neurology of mind as we know it, but whatever. That is his thing. Non-Duality is his world, mine is a mind made up of divided feedback loops in the mind that when cascaded together make consciousness, reactive to reality, and I don’t resort to some infernal 19th century Prussian grasp of physics to explain it. I can live quite well as a skeptic not really knowing what a atom really is, or the universe, or the precise nature of god or self. I’ve accepted unknowns must exist by the nature of our mental constructs, and revel in it. What is odd is even Nietzsche graspedat times Non-Dualism wasn’t possible, he would mock Immanuel Kant for his naturalist idealism in seeing wonderous beauty in the stars, contemplating the insides of stars. Nietzsche chose the route of a dick in describing the opposite. Nietzsche likewise widely abandoned his WTP theory, wasn’t ever going to overcome the Stoic Criticisms of Aristotle’s categories and suspect he knew this. He even developed a theory of anatomical egoism that absolutely constraints Non Duality, and you can’t really be both a Dualist (anatomy) and Non-Dualist (perception is all that is, the whole of reality). Heck, dumb dumb Fixed Cross even insisted he asserted morality based on physics of a whole solar system, galaxy far away from the here and now. I myself coming from a Romano-Christian world view scratches my head, we see god as separated from the universe but our needs and morality built up from the universe (it is always a corrupted morality and ethics) and we either go off what we know revealed from God or we go off senses and reasoning within a limited grasping understanding of the immediate world. For example, being strategic in my focus of things, I don’t begin to presume god approves of my saying “person X must die or war Y is just and must be fought” cause God isn’t within our system, but I am. I’m advocating it for the best of a messy situation, hoping for historical progress that allows for better tactics, principles and strategic insights over time. Building a kingdom of heaven on earth, one inherently flawed and doomed. Space and Time for this earthly kingdom is bound purely by nature. God and Devil can play havoc on it, more and no less than others, but I don’t insist my morality comes from the solar system or galaxy. It is a construct built up over thousands of years that is concepts flung against pure psychological reaction to stimuli of a scared populace trying to survive. I can care less what the stars say to my fate, as I’m uncertain of the web of forces that link us. I’m no lover of astrology, far too immature and inaccurate of a science. I just know causality exists, and historically enough situations when applied under certain complex circumstances results in this or that scenario unfolding, and try to max the advantage while slowing or eliminating the threatening or dangerous aspects away. It isn’t that I am not curious how the universe works- wouldn’t work on experimental telescopes and microscopes if I didn’t have curiosity, but I would never base my morality on it, I go off results and try to feel out Gods reaction, if he has any, or past intentions.

Other than being perplexed why Fixed Cross would go so far and adopt so much of my ideas, without understanding on his part, I see little on the forum. People debating about debt, blah. I am astounded by how little awareness this site has of economics or geopolitics. Mostly the same people saying the same things, and I mostly can care less about rereading them. Half of them are Nazis and could really care less for them as a result, they have miserable lives because of their own choices, not that of others they scapegoat. If you can tell that Jared guy from subway, what is his name.... Mr Reasonable I was backing The Prohibition Party not Republicans or Democrats. I’ve been thinking about joining them, outside of banning drinking and drugs they have some policies well left of center but I am also in general opposed to parties. Worst, they will likely insist I run for office including someday president since they have so few active members despite a massive trust endowed for that from the 19th century and I just don’t want to do that. What I am doing now is far more than I can handle, so don’t need that silliness added on. I’m also tracking down some others to break the Haqanni Network. This goes back to the point with regards to Fixed Cross- I did a search for my name and he was attacking me for being boisterous and without pride, so not a real person. Nobody from my old unit is even aware I’ve been waging this war on the level of presidents and prime ministers, even though it has to do with what culturally people would say is kyunits honor for losing Bergdahl to them (a guy from my old unit 1-501st). Honor only works when you have social recognition for it, and nobody who would want to know from them is even aware it is happening. Closest historical phenomena is a Roman finding his legions lost eagle, and in his eyes that he paganism or done crap, but I don’t do it because of the eagle complex (let’s call it that) or extroverted sense of honor effecting self, but rather the impersonal need to abrogate the negative effects of a bad executive (Obama) has on this unit, which coincidentally I was a member of. I act for them cause I have a intimate depth of knowledge of them, a familiarity, but it isn’t to the point of being a sense of self association, but rather a delicate realization of the need to keep future armies and enemies from pinpointing this demoralizing and nasty psychological effect on future units morale in taking and displaying hostages. Had I much higher rank and greater awareness of other units would of been the same calculation and motivation on my part. No honor, no triumph, but I am the more real for it, for I actually functionally succeeded in figuring it out and bringing home the positive result. In Fixed Crosses case, he has pride in himself and his ego, but is utterly and absolutely divorced from reality and says stuff like he had a plan to liberate Venezuela but failed. Of what fucking use is this pride and ego? Men like me don’t get the triumphs, the generals do, but it is we who ensure the sun will rise tomorrow. It is thankless and yet absolutely essential, utterly Machiavellian yet definitely not Nietzschean. Most of my life’s deeds will go unnoticed, hopefully most are for the better. Some of my worst enemies have derived benifit. That isn’t possible through just egoism. Other aspects of mind must assert themselves in a way a Nietzschean neve could accept. Guilt and Shame are necessary for creativity when we speak of “Necessity is the mother of all invention” but never in a million years would they contemplate how this is. Satre came the closest in accepting the blame for the world war, but he never organized his consciousness enough to stop it, or change it or later wars. Marcuse tried but failed in guilt seeing Vietnam erupt from his WW2 influence in America in designing our defense intelligence network and future CIA, but he never could solve it. It constitutionally is beyond them as a people to examine and change in this area, they try desperately to kill this crucial aspect of mind. Fixed Cross quotes me without realizing the ideology of contradictions.

Anyway, I gotta sleep, long day tomorrow. I can’t post on that site, can you post this in that thread and emphasize I warned S57 that the thread wasn’t true? I rarely check this email anymore. Oh, tell Trixie good job on not chopping his balls off.

[I wrote back to ask if he meant me to post the whole thing, and he replied as follows.]

Well, I counter empiricism with unknowing. The concept of unknowing has a long history, and is both Christian and Pagan, even a Middle English text/translation exists called “The Cloud of Unknowing”. I’m not too perturbed by the Telelogical and Ontological divide, if you remember that’s exactly why I took lock picking up. When you start with a locked lock, you presume it can be opened and don’t accept the idea that the quality of it’s outer form is the entirety of it’s being, you know a larger function exists and that it can be unlocked, but the how is a complex mathematical puzzle. I required me to lose my primary sense in forming a reality of things, sight and instead use haptic sensing and build presumptions from that. Now.... imagine any object is a lock in the sense of a puzzle to be solved, but not to any one end alone that you insist on defining it— a lock is a definite category and presumption, but any object can be many things at once. It isn’t infinitely possible what anything can be even under the best science, but things can be quite a many things if used or transfigured into a new use or form. I just don’t pretend to know this, but I can accept the mysticism of not knowing and presuming with the combination of other mental functions that sorta do know some things, like my sight can be clueless but haptic and tactile ability can know, experience and mathematical and mechanical presumptions can know. I might not know how exactly to pick a lock before it is unpicked, but know it likely can, but never certain it can be. Some locks are so degraded or paradoxically created they can’t be opened, and lock pickers can spend years fiddling with something that looks like a lock but isn’t. That’s why I support Sun Tzu’s concept of mixing empirical and sensory information with formlessness, the ability to conceive where the mind can’t really know, but algorithmically you can get a educated guess on the edges of facts. You gain a gut instinct and a theory of mind and conduct of the other. But Niether I or Sun Tzu would blantantly put morality in the hands of god (god can’t command morality, that’s a human mental function navigating behaviors within the friction of life, don’t know why the nietzscheans insist this is the case, the ten commandants were laws to follow but not the administration of the rules, morality is the mental state, ethics is the system of application) or claim it comes from the soil or deterministic conditions. Determinism does exist, but it isn’t always knowable on a sentient level of awareness, and our systems of ethics and warfare often times already have the ability to adjust for these frictions without us knowing, whereas other times is doesn’t. That’s why it takes a combination of genius and constant examination to implement, as well as to continue or know when to discontinue methods of living and government. It does nothing to point at the solar system or galaxy and say that is what I worship, or that is what I derive my morality from, because we know very little of it. That requires effort and thinking, and not just popping drugs and quoting Nietzsche or more annoyingly as Fixed Cross is doing, me. Trying to assert you are a artistic creator and what you imagine or limit the sensory world to us all that there is, That’s in essence is non-duality, taking the visual whole for all that is, is idiotic in the extreme. I think in time guys like Zizek will adopt Non-Duality as the paradigm used in the rhetoric of modern non dualists take from the media like movies, the whole of psychology can be for them expressed in a scene specific selected anthology of rather perverted movies- and that gives them a world view. They are slowly leaning that direction, and don’t realize how traumatic their philosophy will collapse once that is achieved. Zizek still is a Dualist, given his Freudian and lacanian insistance on the divisions of the brain, but I suspect in time he Nietzscheans who support the Non-Dualist thought in Nietzsche will win out in their arguments and that will end it for them. Not many outside of psychology and the other medical sciences will bother to defend Nietzsche’s dualist insights. I don’t think Nietzsche knew how to mix the two philosophies, he knew at least two indologists who randomly explained concepts from India to him and don’t think he grasped the actual divide so was all over the place. ILP is dominated now by the non-dualists, so see very little hope for a new insight into how fuck up they become to arise amongst them, when all they do is preach to the choir.

Yeah, post that but also post this. I lost a pound and a half today and a pound yesterday, my fat inhibitor seems to be working, took me forever to figure it out. Have a good day, sorry about May staying your prime minister.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:09 am

He's a chatty fellow, isn't he.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:49 am

MagsJ wrote:He's a chatty fellow, isn't he.


Oh, indeed, but the chatty fellow I am most curious about is Zoot Allures. He also chose not to return to ILP -- after his stint in prison. Instead, he created his own forum. But the last time he "visted" that was 8 months ago. And now it is practically defunct.

I wonder if he ended up back in prison.

And better him back here than Turd. Turd was just another right wing objectivist to the best of my own recollection. Though clearly very intelligent and articulate at times.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176529
Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
And here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=194382
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Serendipper » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:58 am

Turd is the brain Trump's ego shit out.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:03 am

Turd was one of my favorite posters. When you see his name at the top of a post, you don't already know everything that he's going to say. Agree or disagree with what he says, the guy is intelligent.

Also, Turd, if you're reading this, I think it's funny that you joining a prohibitionist party is something that makes you think of me. And, I totally read your entire post, even though it was technically too long. You know I hate those long posts, and those ones where 2 dickheads quote each other until there's like 50 quotes.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Maia » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:56 am

[More from "Turd". Incidentally, it also contains stuff in a conversation we've been having about my blindness.]

I do a lot with other wavelengths in infared and thermography, where you have to provide a false color scheme to contrast what is caught on camera. I can to a certain extent at say, 850nm which is invisible to the human eye see blood vessels the eye can’t see. In some sense it isn’t real, and that sense is the sense of a skeptic philosopher such as Sextus Empericus, who tried to show the unreality of the world via method and demonstration of paradoxical expectations. A example would be a oar on a canoe sticking through clear water, to a sighted person it looks like the geometry bends, but to you reaching down you must feel it exists as we expect it to, unless something turkey bizarre is happening. Our senses are streamlined for creatures of a certain size, between that of a tiny fish and a giant blue whale or brontasauros, on a planet that had plenty of oxygen and dependable rates of sunlight and night, and dependable gravity. Our competitive ecosystem on the animal side exists in this. Everything uses the senses a little different, some like Octopus vs Humans quite different at times and even then a lot evolved in parallel due to the limiting constraints of the economy of size in nature, that imposes itself on evolution. It isn’t a issue to lose a sense in a species with multiple senses as long as the individuals remain competitive and can survive, same as a society ethically degrading in losing a institution once important and central but no longer needed. But due to the interdependent nature of the mind, how our species not merely networks cognition but specializes on the level of personality, it really shows at times how we perceive the commonality of knowing. We have a commonwealth of common things we observe and manipulate that is the mediocrity of technological communion, I’m not even talking democracy, I’m talking car broke down and a stranger spots the issue and offers to fix it with a wrench level. When someone seems to have less ability to perceive not due to intelligence but sensory, people are going to instinctively back off. Your a point of confusion and challenges them over and beyond what they are used to thinking involving problem solving, or worst add troubles to exposition in explaining sufficiently how things are in a way you can understand when it is easier to just shut up and mind their own business. Notice the exact opposite is the case when you increase sensory data. I can see and detect things in ranges others can’t, and while it isn’t super human, purely technique or technological which can be bought or learned, people mistake and take it for science and insight. It can be either, but isn’t inherently, and while it can lend to greater understanding of things known or even hidden, more data usually just means more confusion. Most people don’t specialize in cognitive cycles of sensing and knowing, and much less are confused about the theory beyond the human norm, in creatures other than humans, plants and machines, and grand theories for general rules of communications. This is a central aspect to my philosophy of size. Your inability to see things doesn’t make you overridingly alien, for example, while you can’t see things, a object once presumed or otherwise aware of can be predicated, and even for a language philosopher like say, the forum member Faust, who only sees the world through a portion of the left hemisphere via the dictates of language and nothing but through that, you’ll likely process the vast majority of predicates the exact same was as a sighted person. But would your dreams follow the rules of visual hypnagogic constructs if nothing to something like in the Pythagorean Tables, ten dualities that govern the process of being and becoming in the mind visually? From what you described in your dreams yes to a extent but also no. That is challenging, and most are unaware of the challenge, and only a philosopher would be intrigued. Given ILP have currently no resident philosophers, it is no surprise nobody has taken interest in comparing your inner world and understanding to theirs. It is quite possible at points you’ve found faster and more dependable and insightful ways to think that a sighted person wouldn’t, in areas it never would of occurred to us such as elementary logic. The brain is quite adaptable. The positions and dualism that someone like Iambiguous constantly assert and fight in is of little concern, the divide between Object and Subject, originality and unique awareness and systematic thought isn’t something to debate for me but rather something compared later in ethics, in relations. Just as ethics govern the community, it governs the mind. I don’t shy away from the mind, every aspect, example take Fixed Cross and Sauwelios or even Satyr- they assert Satanism for it’s liberation of the mind in much the same way you assert Parliamentry Socerignty for it’s supreme flexibility and freedom to legislate ingeniously.... but both systems are limiting in many ways.... there is no protections against a tyranny of minorities or majorities in England or firm written rights, the unwritten constitution is quite malleable. Three hundred years ago it was central the truth trumped class privledge and social harmony in the courts, today it is increasingly the opposite. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is increasingly non-British ideals. Nietzscheans fear aspects of their mind like guilt, pity, weakness, shame, innocence.... at least linguistically and ideologically, not sure how sincere they really are at all times. I’m not afraid to look at these and learn how they network, benefits and liabilities. Same for high vices such as torture or killing or mass murder or suicide or transgenderism etc. I know naturally much of that is not good and plenty of good reason and historical precedent to not implement it or do silly stuff like inject random drugs into my system- but I’ll go as far as rational prudence and good health allows to inquire and study- I have a infinite supply of broken and dying crackheads to question and examine for example. As a result, world is a far more open place for me than for them. I’ve seen and thought things that would make them deeply disturbed but can better handle most of it, and rarely am I shocked or belittled as they expect. They are the weaker for their efforts, as they went against time tested standards of better living humanity long established less as a iron rule and more to prevent the constant cycle of tragedies events and prone to suck them into when operating impulsively, without foresight or in ignorance. They call this “nature” and take great pride in it. They say they are most evolved and know better, then inject death into themselves and die. I am mocked as a fool for warning them against this stupidity. I get mocked and ignored for warning them that the logic and reasoning the brought them to this eventuality was fundamentally flawed. But I do grasp perhaps better than them why the human mind is so structured to allow for this. All too often men have personalities that selectively nativists the senses and mind, a unique sensation or motivation becomes increasingly generic as it is processed in the mind, a breakdown of genericness occurs, life feels wrong and isn’t able to match past experiences or expectations they feel they can have or deserve, stuff they thing they can achieve or substitute through a shortcut. Sometimes men have succeeded. All too often they do not, and they die mocking the artificiality of ethics which they say are not real, created by men and was imposed on them. They die champion liberated libertines while others who didn’t choose the idiot route of the dodo lives on. One half of those winning survivors followed ethics and morality, the other half are at least historically novel and deserve to be seen as great men and are due emulation and study. None of those damn fools on the forum remotely qualify. Most all are shipwrecks who can’t even shine as survivors of their own mistakes. Someone like a Christian or Buddhist saint who could go out into the wilderness and improve themselves and the human condition through trial and understanding. Like the Egyptian Hermès Trigementius who went out into the mesquito swamps to meditate and figure out the mind and teach others how it is mapped and mastered, something anyone can do. All I see is pools of sterile sodomy, dark ignorance and death amongst them, a occasional wail and cry of ecstasy from a drug simulating a cognitive reaction they didn’t earn or deserve from actual living and endeavoring to the tasks it evolved to express that at.... and after that cry they die. I remember one of the moderators long ago died in the rain laying in the road watching his hand wiggle, drug abuser. The hypnogogic stages and pleasure pain centers of our brain were definitely not streamlined and designed for this end. A community doesn’t long proper from this mindset, it decays and falls apart. Philosophical communities cannot long last, and whatever few random gains they made for philosophy will soon be lost as they go extinct. So I hate and despise them, but I don’t ever shy away. Just they are hardly few, but everywhere, and I can find a buttfucking atheist satanist convinced of his superiority right down the street doing drugs and sacrificing squirrels while listing to Death Metal, and have talked to many before they died, and staired with silent curiosity and disbelief seeing friends gather around asking why, cursing god and the times. Why not just blame the damn idiot for this, or the mourning fools who claimed to be friends for abandoning these cadavers prematurely to the ceaseless drumbeat of death. The one thing I turn against is such a weak minded death, it is the one aspect of mind I cannot embrace. If I had to sacrifice I would for the sake of others, the ethical community seeking survival, for the young or good.... but it would have to be a good deal and I would still strive to cheat death. These damn fools, they will debate you how they have it all figured out, whole silly systems of metaphysics, then a week later they are zipped up in a black bag and loaded on a ambulance. That’s what their opinions are worth, a black bag and a toe tag, behold these supermen.

If you can post that too, but that is hopefully the last. Have a good day.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Serendipper » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:24 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:When you see his name at the top of a post, you don't already know everything that he's going to say.

A can of alphabet soup could accomplish the same.

Agree or disagree with what he says, the guy is intelligent.

I can't speak to the truth of that, but whoever wrote that wall of text is an egotist on crusade against egotists, obsessed with the offense that FC may have absorbed what was proselytized and consequently afraid of someone who isn't even here, characterizing those who actually are here as Nazis, arrogantly trivializing work as unworthy to be read without even reading it, pedestalizing himself as too exceptional to be soiled by the plebs but still managing to post on a site that he does not wish to post for fear someone might steal his precious perspective which is "Of what fucking use is this pride and ego?"! The whole way through I kept thinking "This is how Trump would be if he had a brain."

I'm sorry if that offends you, but it is what it is. Lucky KT didn't get to him first.

And, I totally read your entire post, even though it was technically too long. You know I hate those long posts, and those ones where 2 dickheads quote each other until there's like 50 quotes.

Trump doesn't like reading either.

The President Who Doesn't Read

Wolff quotes economic adviser Gary Cohn writing in an email: “It’s worse than you can imagine … Trump won’t read anything—not one-page memos, not the brief policy papers, nothing. He gets up halfway through meetings with world leaders because he is bored.”

What is it exactly that you don't like about Trump? I'm asking for a dickhead.
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Re: Looking four lost Turd

Postby Meno_ » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:03 pm

Here is one, that he can become so germaine as to get lost, merely as to what he means, unlike Turd, who actually is lost.

At least that's how Trump is superior to Turd, he can be placed in time and place, whereas Turd is implacable.

I do refer to Turd not not only because he has been brought up in conjunction within the forum, but because he really is above judgement, unlike Trump, who has been so easily dismissed.

One is more self critical then the other, and Turf has taken himself out of the arena of judgement, wisely, whereas Trump stays the course, even to the point of acting out the Schwarzenegger syndrome: of having ulterior motives of going back to show biz, cause that's where the big bucks are anyway, and all this political stuff was fab. (and free) PR.

Otherwise the guy is ok. Reagun was Oscar contender. , though Trump is merely second rate vaudeville
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