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Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:32 am
by WendyDarling
It's a daunting idea to try to assemble a Washington DC in support of Trump rally, which could be held in all nation's capitols worldwide. The sooner it materializes the better off Trump will be as the corrupt Congress and media conspire to eliminate him from power. Congress needs to be bitch slapped by Trump's supporters as they take over Washington DC and all the state capitols across the USA. Yes, the liberals are playing with a quiet flickering fire that could burn them beyond recognition and they have no idea how large this inferno could become.

It's time to help Donald drain the swamp.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:25 am
by Peter Kropotkin
WendyDarling wrote:It's a daunting idea to try to assemble a Washington DC in support of Trump rally, which could be held in all nation's capitols worldwide. The sooner it materializes the better off Trump will be as the corrupt Congress and media conspire to eliminate him from power. Congress needs to be bitch slapped by Trump's supporters as they take over Washington DC and all the state capitols across the USA. Yes, the liberals and are playing with a quiet flickering fire that could burn them beyond recognition and they have no idea how large this inferno could become.

It's time to help Donald drain the swamp.


K: direct quote from 45... " I love the uneducated"
it must feel nice for you to belong to this group...

Kropotkin

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:38 am
by Mr Reasonable
Is this for real?

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:51 am
by Otto_West
Peter Kropotkin wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:It's a daunting idea to try to assemble a Washington DC in support of Trump rally, which could be held in all nation's capitols worldwide. The sooner it materializes the better off Trump will be as the corrupt Congress and media conspire to eliminate him from power. Congress needs to be bitch slapped by Trump's supporters as they take over Washington DC and all the state capitols across the USA. Yes, the liberals and are playing with a quiet flickering fire that could burn them beyond recognition and they have no idea how large this inferno could become.

It's time to help Donald drain the swamp.


K: direct quote from 45... " I love the uneducated"
it must feel nice for you to belong to this group...

Kropotkin

Guess that includes you at a grocery store in occupation.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:35 pm
by WendyDarling
Mr Reasonable wrote:Is this for real?

It needs to be for real.

The media would try to say that only a handful of Trump supporters showed up and they were all white supremacist terrorists. :lol:

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:27 pm
by Peter Kropotkin
Otto_West wrote:
Peter Kropotkin wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:It's a daunting idea to try to assemble a Washington DC in support of Trump rally, which could be held in all nation's capitols worldwide. The sooner it materializes the better off Trump will be as the corrupt Congress and media conspire to eliminate him from power. Congress needs to be bitch slapped by Trump's supporters as they take over Washington DC and all the state capitols across the USA. Yes, the liberals and are playing with a quiet flickering fire that could burn them beyond recognition and they have no idea how large this inferno could become.

It's time to help Donald drain the swamp.


K: direct quote from 45... " I love the uneducated"
it must feel nice for you to belong to this group...


O: Guess that includes you at a grocery store in occupation.


K: to assume that someone is "uneducated" based on occupation is a
silly remark... I have come across many educated people doing "low"
class job... taxi drivers with PHD's, so just because they drive a Cab,
does that mean they are "uneducated".. hardly.. but it is typical of
those with stereotypes to assume that the job/occupation indicates
education level...but more importantly this stereotype makes an
assumption about what educated actually means...

does it mean that only those who have gone to collage are educated?
to be educated means a certain level of knowledge... Bush Jr. went
to Yale and was easily the least educated president we have ever had...
not because he went to collage but because he had very little knowledge
about the world we live in.....Bill Clinton and Obama were very educated
not because of the schools they went to, but because of the knowledge
they knew.... they were educated not only about the government and how it
work (something 45 has no idea about and he has a collage degree)
but Clinton and Obama could engage in discussion about a wide variety
of things, the various aspects of the humanities and they could discourse
about science and sports and literature which is what being educated
actually means.... so am I educated? yes, did I go to collage? just a year
or two of Junior collage and I didn't even get a certificate of any kind....
and yet, I am easily one of the most educated people on this board....Why?

because I have never stopped learning...I have engaged in study all my
life on a wide variety of topics as I am engaged in a study of philosophy
from the beginning, from ancient philosophy to the most recent philosophy.....
I thought this study would take 2 years and it is turning into a multiyear study
which right now seem to suggest I would be engaged in it for 5 or more years....
17 century philosophy, Descartes and Spinoza and Leibniz and all of them in those
years has almost taken a year itself... and I see no end in sight....

so to regard me uneducated based on job or occupation or even formal education is really
"uneducated" of you..........

Kropotkin

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:09 pm
by Otto_West
Peter, paper or plastic? I always go with plastic grocery bags myself.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:22 pm
by Kathrina
Otto_West wrote:Peter, paper or plastic? I always go with plastic grocery bags myself.

:lol:

Nice avatar you have. Is it a Max Stirner avatar?

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:35 pm
by Arminius
Kathrina wrote:
Otto_West wrote:Peter, paper or plastic? I always go with plastic grocery bags myself.

:lol:

Nice avatar you have. Is it a Max Stirner avatar?

Yes, it is.

@ Otto West.

Shouldn't the following plastic statue be changed (rebuilt) into a paper statue?

Image

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:54 pm
by Arminius
Arminius wrote:
Otto_West wrote:
Xunzian wrote:Let's not get grandiose.

This is just another battle in a war that's been going on for a long time.

I have enough Leninist sympathies that I'm accepting of accelerationist ideas. I'm also a bit old and out of shape to go out again and start bashing the fash.

The Onion does it best: http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/my-re ... viole-6489

Let's let this zit pop. But let's not pretend it's going to be some civil war.

The Lenin statue in Seattle is going to come down, just watch.

This statue has outlasted the cold war. The USSR and the USA were allies. Probably they remained allies till the day when the USA became the USSR. :wink:

- viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193209&p=2675660#p2675660 .

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:58 pm
by Otto_West
Kathrina wrote:
Otto_West wrote:Peter, paper or plastic? I always go with plastic grocery bags myself.

:lol:

Nice avatar you have. Is it a Max Stirner avatar?

Yes, it is.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:01 pm
by Otto_West
Arminius wrote:
Kathrina wrote:
Otto_West wrote:Peter, paper or plastic? I always go with plastic grocery bags myself.

:lol:

Nice avatar you have. Is it a Max Stirner avatar?

Yes, it is.

@ Otto West.

Shouldn't the following plastic statue be changed (rebuilt) into a paper statue?

Image


Hmm, I thought that statue was cast iron or something. Either way it signifies bigotry and needs to be removed. I'm sure all the openly communist city council people in Seattle would be thrown into a tizzy over its removal. We should create a thread of openly hostile leftist statues in the United States that needs to be removed. Fair is only fair, right?

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:59 pm
by Arminius
Otto_West wrote:Hmm, I thought that statue was cast iron or something.

Yes, you are right. I was just joking a bit.

Otto_West wrote:Either way it signifies bigotry and needs to be removed. I'm sure all the openly communist city council people in Seattle would be thrown into a tizzy over its removal. We should create a thread of openly hostile leftist statues in the United States that needs to be removed. Fair is only fair, right?

Yes, you are right again. Fair is only fair.

And this statue of an extreme left-winger, extreme terrorist, mass murderer should have never been built. But it has been built like many others of the same kind have been built, and all of them are statues of the extreme left-wingers.

Get rid of it!

But wait a bit!

Please note that all that removing will lead to more violence and more destroyed belief and trust in traditional aspects of the young nation USA, thus to the risk that the nation will be destroyed sooner than generally expected.

That is not what you are looking for, is it?

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:11 pm
by WendyDarling
The Democratic liberal left wants to dismember and gut our history, our Constitution, our freedoms, and our ways of life, but I won't let them.

No to open borders!
No to eradicating our history!
No to American companies going overseas!
No to ending our freedoms of speech, of assembly, of privacy!
No to the corporate global socialist agenda!

I'm forgetting some major no points. :-k

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:15 pm
by Meno_
Not until other than either/or resolution is sought in terms of what the requirements are. The statue has merit and destroying it may disserve a time when options may not be categorized as logically exclusive. Capitalism may not be vindicated or categorically be denied only much later when the issues may be clarified s to their actuality or fake-ness. No one really knows except those who assert revision as the basis for their opinions.

Ideology , economic theory and politics are not always an easy mix.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:35 pm
by Arminius
@ Meno

Perhaps, you now know why I asked you several times already in July 2017:

Arminius wrote:There are examples in history and also in the present that show people who hate their country (really or not really - this is often not clear). So it is possible. And everything that is possible can become real.
Source. viewtopic.php?f=33&t=192210&p=2671040#p2671168 .

Arminius wrote:Do some (and if yes: how many) of the U.S. citizens hate their country, for example because of the unjustice in the world? Many haters of this kind argue in this way, I think, but I do not know for sure, and that is the reason why I want to ask an U.S. citizen, for example you (or are you not an U.S. citizen?).
Source: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=192622&p=2671669#p2671669 .

Arminius wrote:The question remains: Do some (and if yes: how many) of the U.S. citizens hate their country, for example because of the unjustice in the world?

My assumption is: yes; but I don't know the percentage. All European countries and the countries with people of European origin have such haters.
Source: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=192622&p=2671724#p2671724 .

You answered not more that this (and this was not really an answer to my question either):

Meno_ wrote:I am both, US and Hungarian citizen. Your question, is complex, and needs a lot of thought to give it justice, in a concise form. But shall get back on it.
Source: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=192622&p=2671724#p2671698 .

You have the dual citizenship privilege, which also means a dual nationality privilege. You are not a spy, are you?

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:30 pm
by Meno_
Arminius:

Of course I am not a spy, but I might as well admit an allusion to ' The Spy in the House of Love ' by Anais Nin, as an example of how words can be twisted to mean other things.

I am trying to refer to the dilemma on the Charleston spech, as to how difficult it is to be in the middle, whereby the effect is either magnified, or diminished, according to whose impression one tries to rely on. That said, the speech touched on an important mainline dilemma facing the whole world, of seeking some view on whether to align to globalism or regional nationalism. Divided, one gets the sense of being a spy in the opposite camp. It has not been this severe, as a test of identifiable assumptions into the nature of types and affiliations, and using a prefabricated architecture of excluding the middle, only resurfaces the issue at a later time

Perhaps there is no ultimate answer to it I only through exercising prejorative power, to will a character ,which has strong binding forces of such identification.

Within duals of all kinds, where the.third appears as a center of an ideal state, the whimsical nature of its myth can be at times appear as a twilight, at other times a dawn, the tragedy.od its.birth innately hiding as a tour-de-force, exploding at any time, especially in times extreme doubt as.to.wbat the facts versus.the.contrively faled truisms.

Internal dulalities, sub-specie exist regardless of the size of any group.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:22 am
by Arminius
Meno_ wrote:Arminius:

Of course I am not a spy, but I might as well admit an allusion to ' The Spy in the House of Love ' by Anais Nin, as an example of how words can be twisted to mean other things.

I am trying to refer to the dilemma on the Charleston spech, as to how difficult it is to be in the middle, whereby the effect is either magnified, or diminished, according to whose impression one tries to rely on. That said, the speech touched on an important mainline dilemma facing the whole world, of seeking some view on whether to align to globalism or regional nationalism.

In former times, there were the dualism of nations and regions, later the dualism of nationalism and regionalism, then the dualism of internationalism and nationalism, then the dualism of globalism and regionalism that has become what it has always tended to: the dualism of globalism and nationalism. So the last dualism is the current one.

The goal of globalism is the destroying all nations, thus also all cores of the nations (families for example, especially because of the tradition, genealogy, history etc. - everything that constitutes a nation). "Antifa" and other extremely violent organizations are of course paid by the globalists (glozis).

Meno_ wrote:Divided, one gets the sense of being a spy in the opposite camp.

You are diviced? "Divided" is not the correct word, I think, because you are not really devided. You are privileged because of your dual citizenship, which still means a dual nationality. If you were divided, you would have decided for only one citizenship (nationality).

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:39 am
by Meno_
That having been said, the goal being the destruction of nationhood will cause the destruction of personal identities, if nationhood is a major criteria of that.

How does novels like 1984 forecast a world with gross personal identical, non-descript identities for such goals? Is such a forecast of techno-repression based on the effects of science having such an effect,rather then one based on politically motivated planned goals? In other words , does science and the humanities , conflate to an indistinct point?

That would go a way to explain Trumpism's apparent inseparability between levels of 'reality'.

I am writing this to give some credence to Trump being a post modern politician.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:31 pm
by Meno_
Arminius wrote:
Meno_ wrote:Arminius:

Of course I am not a spy, but I might as well admit an allusion to ' The Spy in the House of Love ' by Anais Nin, as an example of how words can be
twisted to mean other things.

I am trying to refer to the dilemma on the Charleston
, as to how difficult it is to be in the middle, whereby the effect is either magnified, or diminished,

Paccording to whose impression one tries to rely on. That said, the speech touched on an important
mainline dilemma facing the whole world, of seeking
some view on whether to align to globalism or regional nationalism.

In former times, there were the dualism of nations
and regions, later the dualism of nationalism and

regionalism, then the dualism of internationalism and nationalism, then the dualism of globalism and regionalism
that has become what it has always tended to: the dualism of globalism and nationalism. So the last dualism is the current one.


The goal of globalism is the destroying all nations, thus also all cores of the nations (
families for example, especially because of the
tradition, genealogy, history etc. - everything that constitutes a nation). "Antifa" and other extremely violent organizations are of course paid by the globalists
(glozis).

Meno_ wrote:Divided, one gets the sense of being
a spy in the opposite camp.

You are diviced? "Divided" is not the correct word, I think, because you are not really devided. You are
privileged because of your dual citizenship, which still
means a dual nationality. If you were divided, you would have decided for only one citizenship (nationality).


I got You. Until there is no choice, one cannot choose.

At that point of not choosing, one has to be chosen.

At what point such being chosen becomes a recognizable set,[ (Cantor&the common vernacular of being set, or set up-), becomes useless, senseless, or in the Leibnitzian language=Indistinct, - the logic of that language will be reduced phenomenologically to exclusive use ]. Eidectically, Nothingness will comprise of pure will, the unseen substance.

The above is just musing, not for a democratically formed understanding, no need to take notice, although random choice, may incurse, into it.

Couldn't sleep, needed to think things through, in reference to divisiveness, conscious awareness of ,
Universals, in particular to choosing, by way of rational decision , OR, as in my case a gut level feeling between one or the other- globalism or, regionalism. Can it ever really rise to the level of an absolute choice, or need it always retain an element of relative doubt, hence generating some degree of privilege?

Is Trump crazy, as some surmise, in not being able to get this through, except by some inverted aphorism?
Could computers ever get this across, thereby surpassing human intelligence? Or, if they fail, will others be deprived of a utility of choosing , and remain as determined to be privileged?

Need not they be forever subjugated, and their true freedom forever be expressed in commercially available venues?

So elegant you are, to be able to incite such violence in a soul grasping, yet unable to retort likewise, from the roots, the genealogy to the expressed, or unexpressed multiform effects. I cannot see it in terms of repetition, unless continuing to invoke the logarithm of difference. So must I continue be chained to a rock, with viscious birds eating at my liver?

Where to from the cubism of Ulysses, to the underworld of remembrances of time before, ad absurdum? Why were the gods so weak as to end in that tragedy, especially papa Zeus? He was a horny toad, that is why, his excesses deprived his soul of seminal constructive thinking, unable to control the formation of a whole bubble, thereby like cancerous duplications, we have come to live in a myriad, soap bubble world. Each reflected in other bubbles, that is until the burst, so quickly. Until children blow many others.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:18 am
by Arminius
Meno_ wrote:That having been said, the goal being the destruction of nationhood will cause the destruction of personal identities, if nationhood is a major criteria of that.

And vice versa: the destruction of personal identities (as well as family or other "core" identities) will cause the destruction of nationhood.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:30 am
by Arminius
Meno_ wrote:
Arminius wrote:
Meno_ wrote:Arminius:

Of course I am not a spy, but I might as well admit an allusion to ' The Spy in the House of Love ' by Anais Nin, as an example of how words can be
twisted to mean other things.

I am trying to refer to the dilemma on the Charleston
, as to how difficult it is to be in the middle, whereby the effect is either magnified, or diminished,

Paccording to whose impression one tries to rely on. That said, the speech touched on an important
mainline dilemma facing the whole world, of seeking
some view on whether to align to globalism or regional nationalism.

In former times, there were the dualism of nations
and regions, later the dualism of nationalism and

regionalism, then the dualism of internationalism and nationalism, then the dualism of globalism and regionalism
that has become what it has always tended to: the dualism of globalism and nationalism. So the last dualism is the current one.


The goal of globalism is the destroying all nations, thus also all cores of the nations (
families for example, especially because of the
tradition, genealogy, history etc. - everything that constitutes a nation). "Antifa" and other extremely violent organizations are of course paid by the globalists
(glozis).

Meno_ wrote:Divided, one gets the sense of being
a spy in the opposite camp.

You are diviced? "Divided" is not the correct word, I think, because you are not really devided. You are
privileged because of your dual citizenship, which still
means a dual nationality. If you were divided, you would have decided for only one citizenship (nationality).

I got You. Until there is no choice, one cannot choose.

At that point of not choosing, one has to be chosen.

Are you sure that you got me?

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:20 am
by Meno_
I think so. Another double entendre: for to get you:

1 to understand

2 to defeat or overcome

I meant the former

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:07 pm
by Meno_
Since I think I understand You,rather then overcome You, it is just the beginning

Beginning are initial moves to set mood, position, and atmosphere, in order to get to a credible way to seek a superior point from whence, debatable and different positions can be brought to line. The way to get to this line, Kant be important thing, and not whether one position or the other is
the superior attained goal.

The reason is, that what matters most is the way to get there, the recipe, were it to be lost.

So far.its.still debatable whether.one or the other is of.more primary concern: mind over matter, or the other way:
If you don't mind, it won't matter

It's actually a tripartite meaning, the last meaning of ' to get' is to receive, being a more literal form of gaining more then merely understanding,
-to literally receive something.

Re: Support Trump Rallies Globally

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:10 pm
by WendyDarling
#-o to artistic license. :evilfun: