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Help me figure out why people want children to be abused, unloved and in an institutional system that cares nothing for them.
Amorphos wrote:To make it right, there would have to be no orphaning of children too. And big brother style cameras in bedrooms ~ to prevent abuse potential. Within the next ten years I expect security in peoples houses to be much stronger, I expect the authorities would have 3rd party access too. Bit off topic, but I was wondering what it would take to actually make a Christian society? Some genetic reprogramming is probably not out of the question.
If successful as you say, there would be an exponential population explosion, something like;
7bil X average 10 [as most survive] births = 70bil. 70bil X another average of 10 = 700bil. All in three generations.
There would inevitably have to come a point where all would agree we are overpopulated [I thought we was already?], ergo, its a question of what the reasonable amount is, and back to; what do you do to prevent more births than are required?
When I run into women who's arguments for abortion are 'how will this effect MY life, MY LIFE, I want to go to college and get a job and this PARASITE dared to start growing in me,' and 'they don't really KNOW when life begins,' and are using it as a form of birth control instead of contraceptives because they're horny as fuck and don't like the contraceptives that kill the feeling of sex, the good answers and reasons such as society is over-populated, or, I just wouldn't be a good parent, falls to the wayside.
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Reason I hate abortion is because its non-nurturing. Need more nurturing women in society.
Let's say you were born a man. But imagine for a minute, that you were born a woman. Imagine the kind of thoughts you'd be having when thinking about aborting your own baby. Are those the kind of thoughts you want to be common for women to have?
Random Factor wrote:Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Reason I hate abortion is because its non-nurturing. Need more nurturing women in society.
Let's say you were born a man. But imagine for a minute, that you were born a woman. Imagine the kind of thoughts you'd be having when thinking about aborting your own baby. Are those the kind of thoughts you want to be common for women to have?
Man, you should be the change you want to see in the world. Turn yourself into an actual nurturing woman from where you are as a person in your personality and character and show people that the impossible can be made possible. Shouldn't be too hard for a stubborn and strong-willed person as yourself.
Getting into some debates on facebook about abortion. So many are so willing to let god sort it out and try to defend putting children in abusive situations. They have no comprehension of numbers if abortion is banned, they claim thousands of families want to adopt all the kids, but the kids would be millions if abortion is not available. The arguments they give are based on religion and hope. Help me figure out why people want children to be abused, unloved and in an institutional system that cares nothing for them. why would they want humans raised in horrible conditions and why would you follow a god that wants this?????
Arminius wrote:Abortion is a criminal offence.
WendyDarling wrote:Arminius wrote:Abortion is a criminal offence.
Neglect and mental/physical abuse are criminal offences too which would place 1/3 of parents in jail/prison if the police did a child welfare sweep worldwide.
Leyla wrote:Reasons which were cited for an abortion:
"A baby would change my life" 76%
"I can't afford a baby right now" 68%
"I don't want to be a single mother" 51%
"I'm not ready for such a responsibility" 31%
"I don't want other people to know of my pregnancy" 31%
"I don't feel mature enough for a child" 30%
"The fetus has a health problem" 7%
"I was a rape-victim" 1%
(Source: Family Planning Perspectives, 1988)
Killing for reasons of convenience?
How about teaching responsibility instead of promoting abortion?
And note that the number of child abuses did not decrease since the legalization of abortion.
Since the Supreme Court of Judicature legalized abortion in the USA in 1973, each year around 1.5 Million babies were aborted, that makes until now 64,5 Million killed children.
Sounds like a modern Holocaust.
Leyla wrote:Of course the whole subject is ambivalent. I'm not for „banning“ abortion completely, but I'm against promoting it as the first and most reasonable option. Instead of teaching people how to solve problems and giving them psychological and/or financial support, they are told to "cut off" their problems, and it's sold to us as the "freedom of choice". But it all fits into the same system, for a reason: When you are currently discontended with your husband, divorce him. When a baby doesn't fit into your current plans, abort it. When life doesn't turn out as you would currently like it, kill yourself. Don't change your life, just take a pill.
Destroy the family and annihilate yourself, so „we“ don't have to do it. And there are enough stupid people in the world who believe it.
Kriswest wrote:I see that abuse and neglect are tied very closely to the abortion subject. What is worse a broken child that spends years in family hell or the quick death of a fetus that has no memories, no knowledge, nothing. Banning abortion will bring millions into a system not designed to cope.
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