Merlin, Joker, James… etc.,
I spent some time attempting to explain a position of civility and how it is tied to an assortment of elements of what it is to be civilized and it’s relation to civilization. (Slow thinker; remember).
Your response;
I don’t believe in civility, and there is no such thing as civilization. The world is uncivilized.
I’ve attempted to explain my thinking with regard to race issues and globalization.
Your response;
I don’t believe in that, and add a shot across the bow toward preemption of ideas of ethics and morality as corollaries, adding your don’t believe in them either.
Rather than dumbly ask something like “how do you measure civilization?” by first attempting to answer it for yourself you, you lay that bomb in my lap. Which likely will go no where, because you’ve already stated you don’t believe in it either.
I attempt to reference physical anthropology and archeology into the thinking about race issues and where they are going and you let me know quite squarely, that you are critical of scientism, but you don’t recognize I’m not advocating for scientism. (Rather like I wasn’t advocating for censorship, but you were going to blame me for it regardless.)
I mention the hippy era, and you are quite quick to point out it was riddled with communist and Marxist revolutionary propaganda, and I didn’t just reply with calling you a McArthyist or accuse you of playing into fear mongering effort to destabilize our democracy.
That era was brutal toward homosexuals as “evils against family and morality”, and then you flippantly ask how you measure civilization anyway? Quite simply by it results, the rights it grants for its citizens in fairness and equality. But you believe not in racial differentiation you contend subspecies distinction, and I am guessing by implication that you think of yourself as a member of what you believe to be the superior subspecies. Maybe you’d like to google what is suspect of having ended Senator McCarthy’s political career? Like some priests at the pulpit. “God will condemn you as a sinner”, and then to utter in private “come here little boy”.
Be careful what you wish for.
As sensitive, emphatic, and compassionate as I can be, I just can’t get past the painful frustration I feel when reading you.
You capitalized the abbreviation for verses in the title you choose where I would have been more inclined to title it “Merlin and Mowk have a discussion”. You don’t appear to me to even be trying to dance. You’re posing, I don’t know it, and I could always be wrong, but that would be my current best guess.
So I respond sorry man, I don’t believe in talking for its own sake and thanked you anyway for taking what little time you spent to respond to me in a thoughtful reasoned manner.
We have progressed as a civilization in my thinking. It can be measured in the improvements we’ve made in our collective understanding of things as simple as dimension and representation in an art form.
So yeah, you could respond with, "Don’t waste any of my time, going forward in the future. And I could respond you haven’t exampled anything but a waste of my time. If we are not both taking responsibility for each others time then it is a waste to continue. At least J Edgar Hoover sometimes had the evidence that someone had registered with the communist party for his witch hunt. I’m not even a registered democrat.
Ucci appears incapable of understanding that he hasn’t won anything the grounds of the evidence he presents, he has won only on the grounds that he is willing to waste more of my time then I am of his, with his McCarthyistic bullying.
I keep coming back cause I’m attempting to allow for the benefit of doubt. Searching for any glimmer of curiosity, any willingness to dance, and not just repeatedly have toes crushed under boots, cause you don’t like the song that is playing.
That’s why I don’t think he is quite mature enough to be a competent moderator. He has much more than thick skin; still not quite sure about that being a strength of a reasoned mind.
Carleas’ attitude surrounding all of this appears painfully brilliant at times. The comedy and tragedy.
Edited for consistency of tense in sentence struture.