## Post a message to Zoots

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### Post a message to Zoots

I'll put it in an envelope and make sure it gets to him.
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PM'd you.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

From Zoot's mother:

Mrs.Zoot Sr. wrote:Thanks for the info. I just got a letter from Brian yesterday, finally. He is showing a inmate number on his envelope which is: 17-017188. He said he hasn't heard from you in several months, and that two people in his block got stabbed for snitching - I almost did myself, but explained to a high ranking gang member that I had so reason to snitch on anyone. He said, he has been miserable and by myself, and I don't talk to anyone. He said there are a few websites where family members/friends can order food packages of various kinds for inmates there. http://www.vbsocaremart.com

He also said, he may be there for several months, I have no idea. The meals here are ridiculously small and we get two plain cold sandwiches everyday for lunch - 1 piece of cheap bologna and cheese on white bread. Everyday. Breakfast and dinner combined barely make a decent sized meal. No wonder everyone here gets food pkgs. all the time, and in any case if you feel like ordering something, let me know before you do so, I can tell you the best deal. These assholes aren't letting me have my shoes with my sole inserts for my left leg. They are ignoring my medical condition completely, even after I gave them a doctor's order for proof.

I can't believe that they charge $3.00 each day for an inmate being there!! I've never heard of this before. He said, they would take the money out of his account, if he had money in it. He is considered an indigent. So, in other words, when he gets out he will have a huge debt to pay back...like$1,056 or something like that, just for one year - if more years, thousands he'd owe. OMG!!!!

I feel for him, his suffering and all, but he made the choices he made, not me. That's basically all he wrote.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

Does his prison allow books to be sent? Can they be from Amazon, the publishers only, or can I just mail any book I have?
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

No.

They don't even give the original letter, it is photocopied. Guessing too many soaked letters into drugs, no more than five pages. Yeah, my letter certainly wouldn't of been delivered.

I doubt he will be there for years, they seem a bunch of cheapskates. I'll try payday to send a cheeseburger.

Wait, they do allow Amazon.com books, but I'll call the number on Monday to confirm. Says no hardcover books, but seems to be in general for local jails, still gonna check, cause knowing him, he is in the one prison that disallows it.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

I'll send a food package to him via that link, using his prison number? does Brian(?) have any preferences?

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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

Wait till we can absolutely confirm his prison number is correct. It might not be the same as Hyde.

http://www.vbsocaremart.com/contactus.aspx

That is the contact address, like a idiot I forgot yo ask if his prisoner number is current. Questions I asked involved mailing books off Amazon, and if I send him a cheeseburger, if the money I put in for it actually gets him a cheeseburger, or if the automatically take the money and apply it to his debt.

When my heroin addicted little sister was jailed in Ohio, she said she needed $340 dollars for a medical visit. I get under$200 a week in pay, so I was shocked, asked the prison clerk, they said they have to pay \$300 in administration costs before they can check in, and that medical care was completely free.

My sister was mentally debilitated from the drug damage at the time, so opted not to pay, cause she couldn't stop lying even once behind bars. I get her son presents though.

Prison policy is the warden/sheriff's ultimate responsibility. There are obvious state laws, both from the legislature and judges saying how they are to be treated, and wardens do study model prison and practices, but it looks like Zoots has landed in a prison ran by a sheriff who ran on a brutally strict financial austerity program, claiming he was getting tough on crime, making prisoners pay for themselves. Technically legal, but the meals sound legally below nutritional requirements. You really need to contact them, confirm it is his cutrentprison number, that he will receive the food we pay for and that the Sheriff's Department isn't defrauding us of our financial contribution, because honestly, they may be. I can't see anything written on the site claiming they are or are not. Keep proof of payment if you do, if they don't deliver, we can collectively sue if they give no indication. It is one thing to make a prisoner pay, but another entirely in misleading others inti paying a state when the think they are relieving a prisoner's suffering.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

I like it that at this jail there is an option to buy him food and goods.
To everyone who have shown an interest in helping, thank you.

I have no idea if anyone else but me has sent him anything over the past year. I send my letters without a return address, so I don't hear back. If I really am the only one helping him, then his situation is bad.
I've sent him money and letters in an erradic way. Not frequent enough, and not with any predictability. I feel bad for sucking so much at giving support. I am very constrained where it comes to time for sitting down and writing. I'm rarely alone. I don't own my time. This is no excuse, though. I am going to effort to make time.
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Stop sending him cash, checks, money orders, he won't get them.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

He got the money I sent to him. I sent it via jpay at hyde ci.
JPay, at the time, was the only way they'd accept money.

While he is at VA Beach, use his new booking number.
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What is his new booking number.

I need to know exactly what to write on the letter I'm mailing, I'll copy a small philosophy text for him tonight.

Is his prisoner ID the same?
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His booking at VA Beach is 17-017188. This is the number that he put in his envelope to his mother, so it is valid.
He has a state inmate id# as well. I reckon that this one stays the same so long as he is in Virginia.
I posted the address in the other thread, but I'll post the full adress here later. I'm on mobile.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

His zip code is 23456, you left a number off, and Virginia is listing his ID as 1872160

I put two numbers on. Hope it doesn't get rejected. Copied five pages with a brush, so it took a few hours. He now has a crash course in pyrrhonist philosophy. Next time, who knows who I will select. It has to end with a name -ius though.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

Hey this thread is awesome. Just throwing this out there, if I drop off this site and don't post for more than a month or so, it'll be because I'm in a state prison here. Long story. But, be assured, I would love to have people send me snacks and books. So, keep that in mind. It's probably going to be a non-prison situation, but you never really know until you know. If I do go, it'll be for quite some time, so send lots of books. Thanks.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

Smears, pm full name and dob just in case.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

I got Zoots a box of donuts and a big pack of snacks. He's going to receive it on Monday.
I guess the best thing is to put money in his account, so he can just get whatever he needs. Extra food when he is hungry, toiletries, clothing etc.
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phoneutria wrote:Smears, pm full name and dob just in case.

You would also need the State he's being locked up in and the district/county to help narrow the search. J/S.

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Yeah, it helps.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

Is there a definitive prisoner ID number for Zoot A? Don't really want to send anything otherwise.

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Phone, if they deduct money from his account till his debt is paid off before allowing him to purchase, then just putting money in doesn't let him buy anything.

I have no issue buying him a cheeseburger. I just have a problem thinking I bought him several cheeseburgers over the years, only to find out he got no cheeseburger, instead some sheriff department pocketed the money. I'm serious, that's how Ohio does it. I just want a assurance first before I do that from the state of Virginia. I have no intention of buying the prison Mop Glow or fixing the bathroom sink of some clerk when my real intention is buying him a double cheeseburger. That is exactly how Ohio does it.
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Turd Ferguson wrote:Wait till we can absolutely confirm his prison number is correct. It might not be the same as Hyde.

http://www.vbsocaremart.com/contactus.aspx

That is the contact address, like a idiot I forgot yo ask if his prisoner number is current. Questions I asked involved mailing books off Amazon, and if I send him a cheeseburger, if the money I put in for it actually gets him a cheeseburger, or if the automatically take the money and apply it to his debt.

*respectfully snipped*

Zoots mother sent the link where you can send care packages, doughnuts, cheeseburgers etc. http://www.vbsocaremart.com/category/64 ... rites.aspx

It says right there on that link:

Indigent Inmates

Indigent Inmates (Those having less than the cost of five first class stamps in their account for 15 days) will be eligible to receive:
•One pencil.
•Five stamped envelopes.
•One bar of soap.
•One tube of toothpaste.
•One toothbrush.
•One mini deodorant.
•One 4 oz. Bottle of shampoo.

The cost of indigent canteen and indigent postage will be deducted from any funds received by an indigent inmate. Indigent inmates receive indigent canteen once every 30 days and an Indigent Canteen Request Form must be submitted. Postage allowance for indigent inmates will not total more than Five stamped envelopes per week, including legal mail. An Indigent Postage Request Form must be submitted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Since his mother said he is indigent...he is.

I have read that these care packages and fresh snacks come from third party vendors and not through the prison system themselves...so if you are sending any of these instead of money in any form, the goods get to the inmate.

If you send money, they MAY take a percentage for LOANS made on that indigent entry package of paper, stamps, soap, etc.. but won't take it all.

Since he is in Virginia Beach Jail until his hearing on 3/2/2017, I would think it is safe to assume that all goods and mail will reach him at LEAST up until that date at THIS facility.

After his sentencing, he may be moved again.

https://eapps.courts.state.va.us/gdcour ... psCode=810

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I hope that he'll write back to his mom or to turd and let us know that he got the snaks I got for him last night.
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phoneutria wrote:I hope that he'll write back to his mom or to turd and let us know that he got the snaks I got for him last night.
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I hope so too.

You guys are brave pioneers!

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If he has any smarts, he would just plead for mercy, noting he just was jailed, and that he understands he was wrong to evade, and request community service instead. I don't know if his mom will let him do house arrest.
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### Re: Post a message to Zoots

Once again, thanks to all of you who have sent me PMs with messages for Zoot. Keep them coming.
I am going to send a batch early this week, and will also look into getting a p.o. box outside of my zipcode.
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