## Which colour?

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## Which colour?

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### Re: Which colour?

Ah come on my fellow INTJ American buddy.. gi me a virtual hug.. go on

Does being British prohibit me from wishing you a happy Thanksgiving? who knew...

You do operate within strange parameters and on whatever assumptions you choose, don't you... is this what is meant when they say a small town mentality?

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### Re: Which colour?

Alright, we've reached a compromise. You can carry on in your delusions, and my signature will from now on state the truth about you.

Discussion over as you requested, have a good night.
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### Re: Which colour?

You reached a compromise by yourself? how novel...

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Don't worry, I involved 20 varients of you in the debate, including three who banned me. I think I gave you plenty of time to plead your case.

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### Re: Which colour?

Your intention towards me is always the same... to annoy and try and rile.

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No, that's not my intention, as I'm a simply a rhetorician, and within the dialectic, the preferred subject of man is homo ludens, as it combines all the emotions and critical thinkings of a person. Did you not learn anything for my 10,000 postings of the lovheim cube? If all you ever feel is anger or surprise or fear or disgust when others derive something higher from my statements, it is more a reflection of your own limitations, and a opportunity to grow.

I use basic formulaic humor, look up "INTJ Sense of Humor" if you think it is just me, especially our "twisted sense of humor". I don't try to convert people from one type to another, so my goal isn't to morph you, but rather to expand who we are. I choose my name carefully for this site, I'm not the one started the circus, merely the lion tamer.

You need to stop being a hard ass on rules and categorizations, where things belong and where they don't, and just learn to take people as they are. Your not aware of how restictively limiting your approach really is, Trebeck.
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### Re: Which colour?

Turd Ferguson wrote:
So I will run through it again S57 ( he shares a lot of traits in the Right SML with you and me ) will try to argue how I am wrong because he seems so similar to you
and I am just being me but neither of you will grasp INTJs pretty much run the entire system

I am not going to argue how you are wrong. I see the alpha male in you very clearly. You are natural leader material. You have a very strong sense of discipline
And people with that quality are the most suited for being in positions of power. But I still think you are just being you because you know of no other way. And
so while you are incredibly focused it still comes quite natural to you
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### Re: Which colour?

Mags wrote
...and what's your dress style MM? I think Wild Bohemian for you.

My feet love Bohemian. Joker saw me wear 'real' shoes a couple of days ago ie. not sandals. When the snow falls, I'll encase my feet.

Slim pickings on-line Mags. Couldn't even find anything in my favorite color. Love polka dots. Wide leg pants. Fitted jackets. Hats.
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You keep insisting on describing the opposite of me.. of who I am.. of my character, and attempting to assign traits to me that are not mine whilst denying me the vocalisation of my true nature: for example... my worst possible job in the world would be to teach.. something that would be an ESFJs ideal job it seems, and I prefer acknowledgement of a job well done and not the constant show of appreciation that the ESFJ thrives on, but I guess you'll justify those facts to suit your agenda.

My extroverted older sister is constantly horrified that I don't interact with others for days or even weeks, but I.. I am happy with that and do look forward to the days when I can go party and exhibit my underlying extroverted side, but those are days I have to mentally prepare myself for.

One day I made a decision.. a decision to get out more and get out of myself more/externalise and see what life had to offer then/was about, and it's not what or how I thought it would be but it was fun, but even then in those days I chose my circles and surroundings carefully so as to minimise any damage on my psyche and being, but I prefer living life at my naturally-intended pace.

Turd Ferguson wrote:No, that's not my intention, as I'm a simply a rhetorician, and within the dialectic, the preferred subject of man is homo ludens, as it combines all the emotions and critical thinkings of a person. Did you not learn anything for my 10,000 postings of the lovheim cube? If all you ever feel is anger or surprise or fear or disgust when others derive something higher from my statements, it is more a reflection of your own limitations, and a opportunity to grow.

I use basic formulaic humor, look up "INTJ Sense of Humor" if you think it is just me, especially our "twisted sense of humor". I don't try to convert people from one type to another, so my goal isn't to morph you, but rather to expand who we are. I choose my name carefully for this site, I'm not the one started the circus, merely the lion tamer.

You need to stop being a hard ass on rules and categorizations, where things belong and where they don't, and just learn to take people as they are. Your not aware of how restictively limiting your approach really is, Trebeck.

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Maniacal Mongoose wrote:Mags wrote
...and what's your dress style MM? I think Wild Bohemian for you.

My feet love Bohemian. Joker saw me wear 'real' shoes a couple of days ago ie. not sandals. When the snow falls, I'll encase my feet.

Slim pickings on-line Mags. Couldn't even find anything in my favorite color. Love polka dots. Wide leg pants. Fitted jackets. Hats.

Il est tres chic MM.. trop chic pour mois... I have a need to be slightly disheveled, but I don't know why.. perhaps a rebel from school days of pristine uniforms and correct 'everything'.. perhaps.

Your favourite colour? red? I did notice the distinct lack of colour, but monochrome always looks chic regardless.

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I am an Olivia Palermo not a Taylor Swift... do you really think I would go out being seen in that? that would be the most awkward day out for me.. ever.

So you like the Taylor Swifts of this world because they give you a stiffy? I hear ya...
Turd Ferguson wrote:I know what the fuck a wedge is and what gives me a stiffy. It isn't hard intellectual work, it is a joke system.

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I tried listening to Taylor Swift's music once, hated it.
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Your favourite colour? red? I did notice the distinct lack of colour, but monochrome always looks chic regardless.

Yes, red excites me to no end. Intoxicating brain chemicals releasing. The smell of leather does the same thing.
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Maniacal Mongoose wrote:
Your favourite colour? red? I did notice the distinct lack of colour, but monochrome always looks chic regardless.

Yes, red excites me to no end. Intoxicating brain chemicals releasing. The smell of leather does the same thing.

I'm a vegan, don't use leather.

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http://roogirl.com/20-everyday-items-that-contain-animal-ingredients/

What about using anything on this list? There are loads of lists too.
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Turd Ferguson wrote:I tried listening to Taylor Swift's music once, hated it.

I thought the ESFJ with all the designer shopping bags and awful outfit was Taylor Swift...? hence my saying that she was an ESFJ in the MM Typing thread.

Google Search is showing that she's an ESTP, but in any case I am not that outfit.

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Waiting on these shoes (they also came in a bright red) to arrive.

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...and on this dress (it also came in a garish blue and pink) to arrive.

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I don't like ordering clothes online (don't trust online advertising). Often, the online representation does not meet reality. This is true especially with clothes made in China (which is most of them). In fact, even brand name ('original') clothes are made in China, just as higher level fakes. I remember Spiegel used have some good stuff, now not so much. Really considering learning how to sew myself.

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Pandora wrote:I don't like ordering clothes online (don't trust online advertising). Often, the online representation does not meet reality. This is true especially with clothes made in China (which is most of them). In fact, even brand name ('original') clothes are made in China, just as higher level fakes. I remember Spiegel used have some good stuff, now not so much. Really considering learning how to sew myself.

You don't know how to sew?
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Turd Ferguson wrote:I tried listening to Taylor Swift's music once, hated it.

But she's got so many songs in so many styles. Surely there's a track that can move your soul.
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Mr Reasonable wrote:You don't know how to sew?
I know how to knit and how to repair garments, but not how to sew full garments. I've always hated sewing and loved knitting. My grandmother used to sew and tried teaching me, but I hated it (I was even put in a sewing club at one point). My mom taught me how to knit and I loved it. Anyway, back then, clothes were actually of better quality. Now, it's all made with cheap disposable material (and badly sewn too), so you'll just keep buying more crap clothes. Now, you go to Macy's and see overpriced designer winter sweaters made of acrylic or cotton. WTF! Am I supposed to just look like I'm warm? Some of these clothes (like Forever 21) look like they were made by sewing school students from scrap material. And they sell!! And did I say that all fabric is synthetic imitation? Try finding any natural fabric like batiste or crepe georgette, everything is rayon and polyester these days that's made for mass production. You find one sweater that's like 40% alpaca, and it's price automatically goes through the roof. Even linen, which is supposed to be cheap material, is presented and priced like something that's only worn by upper class elites on vacation. It's insane. It's the same thing that happened with white rice. People buy brand names not even looking at the material itself, or how it's sewn together. And don't get me started on shoes. It's all about mass production and making money. I mean, I can go on and on.

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Pandora wrote:I don't like ordering clothes online (don't trust online advertising). Often, the online representation does not meet reality. This is true especially with clothes made in China (which is most of them). In fact, even brand name ('original') clothes are made in China, just as higher level fakes. I remember Spiegel used have some good stuff, now not so much. Really considering learning how to sew myself.

...that's the reason I only buy certain brands now, so I can be sure of the quality, fit, and finish without wasting money.

Spiegel? never heard..

Try this site (DM'd you the link) for amazing highend-highstreet and designer bargains.. and all because they're so last season darling (which means just a few weeks out of season to you and I) so 2-300 pound/dollar jeans are 20, 3-1000 pound/dollar coats are 50, etc, etc. etc,

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I used to sew with a Viking digital sewing machine and a Singer serger. Still have both machines that need tuning up, but I'm in no rush since it's a real challenge of patience and precision. Good luck with that undertaking. Lessons from an seamstress are highly recommended. Sewing mistakes are real costly in time and \$.

When in doubt, don't cut it out!-MM
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I can't sew, knit or crochet.

Although I would love to be able to knit.

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Don't get me wrong. I want to learn how to knit and I think I will make it a priority before winter.
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MagsJ wrote:
Try this site (DM'd you the link) for amazing highend-highstreet and designer bargains.. and all because they're so last season darling (which means just a few weeks out of season to you and I) so 2-300 pound/dollar jeans are 20, 3-1000 pound/dollar coats are 50, etc, etc. etc,
Thanks Mags. I'm seeing some pretty high-end stuff there!

Shieldmaiden wrote:I can't sew, knit or crochet...
"Is knitting therapeutic? Heck yes. It’s a proven scientific fact, just like we know chocolate and red wine are good for us. Since turning my life over to yarn, I’ve talked to thousands of knitters who claim it’s cured everything from gout to their weight problems. I can’t speak to all cures, but it can certainly improve one’s mental health. I know it helps mine.”
That's because your mind is continuously preoccupied with counting stitches. This is especially so if you're doing a variable multi-colored design (think Norway sweaters), and a little bit less so if you're doing cables. If your cable design is uniform and straight (up) then once you get your design started you can follow the stitches by feel more or less (knit/purl), so the mind is more relaxed and the work becomes more or less automatic because the cables usually repeat themselves; but if your cables are diagonal, or travel sideways or crisscross a lot, you'll still need to keep count, but less so, because the design usually travels/changes vertically (in any case, I find cables easier to do). With multi-color designs you really need to account for every stitch. If you miscount a stitch, or miss it, or it slips and you lose the stitch in the previous row (happens if you knit too loosely), your whole design will get messed up and you'll have to go back to the last place and redo it. The good thing is that usually, you'd know by the end of the row or beginning of the next row when things don't seem to add up anymore. This is why it takes longer and you have to double check your work continuously. Anyway, my point is that knitting (especially multi colored designs) involves a lot of counting, so you can't really let the mind wander; so your mind is mostly focused on one thing, counting. I don't remember doing a lot of counting when crocheting. Though today, most of the work is done by computerized machines.
With sewing, the most important thing, I think, is proper measurement, but it's also an art I believe that comes with experience. You'd need to account of how the fabric will shrink after washings (or stretch) and give an extra leeway in your measurements. That, I think, you can know only with experience (by knowing the fabric you're working with). Also, you'd need to consider individual preferences; some people like their clothes more loose than others. There are some parts of the world where you can still get personalized alteration with your purchased garment, so it fits you perfectly. These are the places that still make and sell their own clothes.
I remember someone mention once that knitting was actually invented by men, and I think it may actually be true, or I won't be surprised if it were. Men are usually in charge for making fish nets, and it could possibly be considered as a kind of proto-knitting/crocheting, maybe. And I wouldn't be surprised if early man was already making fishing nets when he was still wrapped in skins/furs.
I am thinking that most women in many cultures have spent a lot of their free time counting, historically. Carpet or tapestry weaving, with intricate designs, for example, takes whole months to complete, and I'm sure it requires a lot of careful counting, and with every row (and there are a lot of rows in a carpet!).
I've always wondered what goes through the minds of women who are doing bobbin lace. Do they follow a drawn pattern visually, or do they actually count? A precise design would require a lot of counting, and with that kind of work, you lose your place you're fucked, unless you can count in multiple dimensions simultaneously!

Belgian Lace is very beautiful!

Ok, I'm gonna stop now.

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