a thread for mundane ironists

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat May 09, 2020 10:08 pm

Iris Murdoch

The cry of equality pulls everyone down.


Well, after all, the meek shall inherit the Earth.

Art is the final cunning of the human soul which would rather do anything than face the gods.

You know, before there was only one of them.

No love is entirely without worth, even when the frivolous calls to the frivolous and the base to the base.

Including [here] the love of philosophy?

All art is the struggle to be, in a particular sort of way, virtuous.

If not always categorically and imperatively.

A middling talent makes for a more serene life.

And certainly a middling mind.

Our destiny can be examined, but it cannot be justified or totally explained. We are simply here.

Yo, God!
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun May 10, 2020 5:47 pm

Yogi Berra

A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore.


Let alone a quarter.

Anyone who understands Jazz knows that you can't understand it.

Not unlike, say, determinism.

If people don't want to come to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?

Today we know how, don't we?

Even Napoleon had his Watergate.

Let's Trump that.

What time is it? You mean now?

Of course that was then.

If you don't know where you're going, when you get there you'll be lost.

Unless perhaps that's the point.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun May 10, 2020 7:19 pm

Philosophy Tweets

“Those who are too lazy and comfortable to think for themselves and be their own judges obey the laws. Others sense their own laws within them.” Hermann Hesse


Let's decide: Which is scarier?

“People with courage and character always seem sinister to the rest.” Hermann Hesse

Take, for example, the Nazis.
Like they didn't see themselves that way.


"The sad thing about artificial intelligence is that it lacks artifice and therefore intelligence.” Jean Baudrillard

Next up: the sad thing about human intelligence.

"Art does not die because there is no more art. It dies because there is too much,” Jean Baudrillard

Call this, say, the "soup can syndrome".

"Illusion is no longer possible, because the real is no longer possible.” Jean Baudrillard

Let's blame...Trump?

"Truth does not become more true by virtue of the fact that the entire world agrees with it, nor less so even if the whole world disagrees with it.” Maimonides

So, given that, is this true?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun May 10, 2020 9:23 pm

Colum McCann

But being rational about it didn't cure it.


Cure it? Hell sometimes being rational will cause it.

He didn't like it all that much when he first came - all the rubbish and the rush - but it was growing on him, it wasn't half bad. Coming to the city was like entering a tunnel, he said, and finding to your surprise that the light at the end didn't matter; sometimes in fact the tunnel made the light tolerable.

That was before the coronavirus of course.

The conspiracy of women. We are in it together, make no mistake.

Genes then?

You're manic-depressive and you're manic-depressive too and you, you're definitely manic-depressive, girl. And you over there in the corner, you're just plain fucking depressive.

Before social distancing of course.

I suppose I've always known that it's hard to be just one person.

If only all the way to the grave.

The true nature of a democracy is its ability to say yes when even the powerful say no.

He means no when the powerful say yes.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon May 11, 2020 4:56 pm

Banksy

The art world is the biggest joke going. It's a rest home for the overprivileged, the pretentious, and the weak. And modern art is a disgrace - never have so many people used so much stuff and taken so long to say so little.


Thank god we're philosophers.

There's nothing more dangerous than someone who wants to make the world a better place.

Not to worry, no one has ever accused me of that.

Bus stops are far more interesting and useful places to have art than in museums.

Not the ones around here.

The greatest crimes in the world are not committed by people breaking the rules but by people following the rules. It's people who follow orders that drop bombs and massacre villages.

Unless of course they're the good guys.

One Original Thought is worth 1000 Meaningless Quotes.

Or, here, posts.
Yo, Jacob!


Is graffiti art or vandalism? That word has a lot of negative connotations and it alienates people, so no, I don't like to use the word 'art' at all.

If he does say so himself.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon May 11, 2020 5:45 pm

Philosopnhy Tweets

"I believe that what we become depends on what our fathers teach us at odd moments, when they aren't trying to teach us. We are formed by little scraps of wisdom." Umberto Eco


That and big piles of bullshit.

“To be truly ignorant, be content with your own knowledge.” Zhuangzi

Yo, Mr. Objectivist!

“You must be prepared to work always without applause.” Ernest Hemingway

Hey, that's me. And, as you might imagine, not just here.

“He was just a coward and that was the worst luck any man could have.” Ernest Hemingway

Or the best luck.

“Knowledge is no guarantee of good behavior, but ignorance is a virtual guarantee of bad behavior.” Martha C. Nussbaum

What do you think...a context?

“If the feminine issue is so absurd, is because the male's arrogance made it 'a discussion'" Simone de Beauvoir

That's men for you.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon May 11, 2020 9:49 pm

Simon Critchley

I have argued that philosophy doesn't begin in wonder or in the fact that things are, it begins in a realization that things are not what they might be. It begins with a sense of a lack, of something missing, and that provokes a series of questions.


He means serious philosophy of course.

It is so ridiculous to limit oneself to one version of the truth.

Unless of course there actually is only one.

Just to say "Well, God is dead" in one breath is to say, in another, that nothing means anything. This is the moment of nihilism. Nihilism is the affirmation of meaninglessness.

Essentially as it were.

For me philosophy begins with these experiences of disappointment: a disappointment at the level of what I would think of as "meaning," namely that, given that there is no God, what is the meaning of life? And, given that we live in an unjust world, how are we to bring about justice?

Wow, he thought, does that take me back.

I've always been very keen on Pascal, and what I'm most keen on in Pascal is his emphasis upon human wretchedness. He has a phrase which goes something like 'Anxiety, boredom and inconstancy, that is the human condition' and I've always been very partial to that.

In other words, "very little, almost nothing".

It's complicated. On the one hand we're killer apes, and on the other hand we have this metaphysical longing.

Simplify that, Mr. Objectivist.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue May 12, 2020 4:16 pm

N.K. Jemisin

The look on her face is one of horror, or perhaps sorrow so great that it might as well be horror. Past a certain point, it’s all the same thing.


Plus, they rhyme.

Urgency and despair don't get along well.

On the other hand, why should they?

Funny thing, employment. If you keep doing it, you keep getting paid.

Said the wage slave.

Fear was like poison to mortals; it killed their rationality.

For starters.

It was said that the gods favored fools because they were entertaining to watch.

Your God too, right?

Frightened people look for scapegoats.

Here? Pick a color. The darker the better.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue May 12, 2020 5:49 pm

Nein

Just another pandemic Monday.


Just another pandemic Monday Tuesday.

Marx, Freud, and Nietzsche watch a White House press briefing.
Marx: Classic capitalism.
Freud: Classic Narcissism.
Nietzsche: Classic bullshit.


Obviously: too close to call.

Words would like to apologize for failing us, especially now. But they can’t.

How about it, one last try?

Marx, Freud, and Nietzsche are having a quarantine brunch and arguing about what makes for a good Bloody Mary.
Marx: As long as it’s red.
Freud: As long as it’s like my mother’s.
Nietzsche: As long as it’s strong. And if it doesn’t kill me, please make it stronger.


On the other hand, where are they now?

A gentle reminder from Adam Smith. Don’t worry. You’re in good invisible hands.

Well, what's left of them.

Tolstoyevsky. Still my favorite Russian author.

Mine is still Turgogol.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue May 12, 2020 9:32 pm

Karl Kraus

Psychoanalysis is that mental illness for which it regards itself as therapy.


Brutal!

When I want to go to sleep, I must first get a whole menagerie of voices to shut up.

I hear that.
Cue the brandy.


If something is stolen from you, don't go to the police. They're not interested. Don't go to a psychologist either, because he's interested in only one thing: that it was really you who did the stealing.

So, go to a philosopher?

Language is the only chimera whose illusory power is endless, the inexhaustibility which keeps life from being impoverished. Let men learn to serve language.

Can it really be as grim as that? Or does it barely scratch the surface?

Newspapers have roughly the same relationship to life as fortune-tellers to metaphysics.

Their newspapers, not ours.

The trouble with Germans is not that they fire shells, but that they engrave them with quotations from Kant.

I thought it was Nietzsche. Or is it still too close to call?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed May 13, 2020 4:10 pm

Jeanette Winterson

It is just as likely that as I invent what I want to say, you will invent what you want to hear.


Or, here, write and read.

To be ill adjusted to a deranged world is not a breakdown.

Actually, it can be.

I have a theory that every time you make an important choice, the part of you left behind continues the other life you could have had.

Next up: the actual reality.

But not all dark places need light, I have to remember that.

And now we have to remember it.

If art, all art, is concerned with truth, then a society in denial will not find much use for it.

Let alone philosophy.
Seriously.


After every ''victory'' you have more enemies.

Not many victories here for me, he thought. Just more and more enemies.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed May 13, 2020 5:43 pm

Elena Epaneshnik

Going to hell has never been so expensive.


Sounds like a personal problem. Though, sure, maybe not.

Today marks the 50th day of my self-isolation. When I wake up, I'm gonna throw a huge party, with just me sitting home alone, doing nothing.

And in Russia to boot.

In Russian hell, there will be hysterics, axes, and murderous trains.
In Russian paradise, it will be the same, only in French.


You know, theoretically.

Putin announced the end of "non-working days" (self-isolation) on the same day when the new record – 11656 cases – was set. It's almost like he's envious of Trump's "Idiot of the Year" unofficial title.

Note to Putin: you're not even close!
Though, sure, admittedly, I'm biased.


You may believe in God, witchcraft or astrology, but you're way more superstitious if these days you still believe in common sense.

As in the lowest common denominator sense.

Technically – the future starts now.
Considering human nature – tomorrow.
On second thought – next Monday.
In the present circumstances – define "future".


More to the point, define "define".
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed May 13, 2020 8:38 pm

William Styron from Sophie's Choice

O Lord God of my salvation, I have cried day and night before thee: Let my prayer come before thee: incline thine ear unto my cry; For my soul is full of troubles...


Well, it was the Holocaust.

...they appeared from where I stood as peaceful as two lovers who had gaily costumed themselves for an afternoon stroll, but on impulse had decided to lie down and nap, or kiss and make love, or merely whisper to each other of fond matters, and were frozen in this grave and tender embrace forever.

We know why, don't we?

What causes human beings to inflict upon themselves these stupid little scissor snips of unhappy remembrance?

I won't tell you if you won't tell me.

...the iron determination with which we must carry out Hitler’s orders could only be obtained by a stifling of all human emotions.

Not counting those who reveled in it.

...there is only one way out—up the chimney.

Of course we get to choose from many others. If it comes to that.

If there are Jews in this group, you have no right to live more than two weeks. Then he said, Any nuns here? Like the priests, you have one month. All the rest, three months.

Any nihilists?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu May 14, 2020 4:20 pm

Nassim Nicholas Taleb

An ad hominem attack against an individual, not against an idea, is highly flattering. It indicates that the person does not have anything intelligent to say about your message.


How about we make it that way here too.

If you want to annoy a poet, explain his poetry.

Next up: annoying a philosopher.
You know the one.


Paul Krugman is a danger to society!

You know the one.

I want to live happily in a world I don’t understand.

Just not for ever after.

Wittgenstein's ruler: Unless you have confidence in the ruler's reliability, if you use a ruler to measure a table you may also be using the table to measure the ruler.

I'll stick with the poker myself.

In science you need to understand the world; in business you need others to misunderstand it.

They don't call it the dismal science for nothing.
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Postby iambiguous » Thu May 14, 2020 7:37 pm

Werner Twertzog

Honesty seems fantastic when everyone else is lying, deluded, or mad.


Not counting mine of course.

What skills do YOU bring to a post-apocalyptic wasteland?

You first.

"Imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever."
Orwell, you were such an optimist.


Sure, maybe.

It is important to create a $2,500 laptop computer that can be instantly destroyed by a small splash of coffee, I am told.

Anyone here know why?

The Germans have no word for Schadenfreude, I am told.

Let's think one up for them.

The perfect partner is out there, for you, somewhere.
And, when you meet, you will destroy each other.


Been there, done that, he thought.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu May 14, 2020 9:48 pm

Iris Murdoch

I live, I live, with an absolutely continuous sense of failure. I am always defeated, always. Every book is the wreck of a perfect idea. The years pass and one has only one life. If one has a thing at all one must do it and keep on and on and on trying to do it better.


Imagine then our own plight.

The chief requirement of the good life, is to live without any image of oneself.

Uh, whatever that means?

Perhaps misguided moral passion is better than confused indifference.

My guess: Here but not there. And then there but not here.

Marriage isn't a tram. It doesn't have to get anywhere.

Until it goes to the lawyers.

The very madness of the scheme protects it.

Lots and lots of them these days.

A bad review is even less important than whether it is raining in Patagonia.

Sunny today. Then sunny through next Thursday.
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Postby iambiguous » Fri May 15, 2020 7:05 pm

Yogi Berra

I can see how Sandy Koufax won twenty-five games. What I don't understand is how he lost five.


Now that's a compliment.

You have to give 100 percent in the first half of the game. If that isn't enough, in the second half, you have to give what's left.

Unless they bench you.

I just want to thank everyone who made this day necessary.

Not many days that aren't though, right?

50% of all married people are women.

You know, back then.

You wouldn't have won if we'd beaten you.

Definitional logic let's call it.

I didn't say the things I said.

You know, if he does say so himself.
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Postby iambiguous » Fri May 15, 2020 9:27 pm

Colum McCann

An optimist is a braver cynic.


Let's parse that.

She wanted to tell him so much, on the tarmac, the day he left. The world is run by brutal men and the surest proof is their armies. If they ask you to stand still, you should dance. If they ask you to burn the flag, wave it. If they ask you to murder, re-create. Theorem, anti-theorem, corollary, anti-corollary. Underline it twice. It’s all there in the numbers. Listen to your mother. Listen to me, Joshua. Look me in the eyes. I have something to tell you.

Uh, let's parse...that?

Let it be. Silly song, really. You let it be, it returns. There's the truth. You let it be, it drags you to the ground. You let it be, it crawls up your walls.

See, what did I tell you? A context!

If you think of the world without people it's about the most perfect thing there ever is. It's all balanced and shit. But then come the people, and they fuck it up. It's like you got Aretha Franklin in your bedroom and she's just giving it her all, she's singing just for you, she's on fire...and then all of a sudden out pops Barry Manilow from behind the curtains.

Or, here, the God awful Kids!

You want to arrest the clocks, stop everything for half a second, give yourself a chance to do it over again, rewind the life, uncrash the car, run it backward, have her lifted miraculously back into the windshield, unshatter the glass, go about your day umtouched, some old, lost sweet tasting time.

This or just fast forward to the grave.

The repeated lies become history, but they don't necessarily become the truth.
The person we know at first, she thinks is not the one we know at last.


Sure, why not, he thought.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat May 16, 2020 12:12 am

Werner Twerzog

Hell is other people.
Hell, also, is being alone.
Everything is Hell.


Not only that but, these days, everything else too.

Time is running out for me to become a "honky tonk man."

Me too. Why? Just lucky I guess.

The rich get richer, while the super-rich redefine reality.

But then like all the rest of us...they tumble over into the abyss that is oblivion. At least I think they do.

100,000 people died in the Lisbon earthquake of 1755. Thanks Obama.

Next up: Obama in the Garden of Eden.

"Nazis" are everywhere, like stupidity in chickens.

Genes and memes, right?

It is important to repress your feelings in order to build towards an explosion of creative destruction.

And then, after that, post it.
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Postby iambiguous » Sat May 16, 2020 6:45 pm

Banksy

All artists are willing to suffer for their work. But why are so few prepared to learn to draw?


And we all know the equivalent of that here, don't we?

You can win the rat race but you're still a rat.

Wow, that's actually true, isn't it?

I mean, they say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time.

Come on, you only die once.

I have a theory that you can make any sentence seem profound by writing the name of a dead philosopher at the end of it.

Just what we need, another theory.

Become good at cheating and you never need to become good at anything else.

Again, theoretically.

The Art we look at is made by only a select few. A small group create, promote, purchase, exhibit and decide the success of Art. Only a few hundred people in the world have any real say. When you go to an Art gallery you are simply a tourist looking at the trophy cabinet of a few millionaires.

Of course no one ever really knows if shit like this is true.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat May 16, 2020 7:40 pm

Existential Comics

Fact: if you went back in time and killed Bill Gates to prevent Microsoft from ever existing; personal computers, software, the internet, and technology in general would have advanced at a much more rapid pace. He made his billions by impairing progress, not creating it.


Let's finally settle this once and for all.

The funniest thing about Elon Musk in the last few years is finding out that he's just a stupid person. Like he's just dumb. He isn't even smart at one thing and dumb at others, he's just pure dumb.

Let's finally settle this once and for all.

Is existentialism still relevant today?
Well, a lot of people seem to think the meaning of their lives consists of getting haircuts, eating hamburgers, and shopping for toasters, to the point where they'll sacrifice everyone's grandparents rather abstain for a couple months.
So…


Wow, I guess it still is.

This pandemic has shown clearly that Americans are the most brainwashed people on earth. Not only do half of us literally not believe in science, but now people think "freedom" is…intentionally not wearing a mask to help a disease spread faster?

Any brainwashed folks here? :lol:

The strangest thing about the people who say there is no free will is that they can't coherently say what exactly is missing.

Come on, that's not even close to the strangest.

The American system of propaganda is so powerful it has even convinced people that we don't have propaganda here.

Let's explain how.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat May 16, 2020 9:34 pm

Simon Critchley

There are lots of stories about how philosophy begins. Some people claim it begins in wonder; some people claim it begins in worry. I claim it begins in disappointment.


My guess: It didn't begin here.
Next up: Where philosophy ends.


Peace is nothing more than the regulation of the psycho-political economy of awe and reverential fear, of using the threat of terror in order to bind citizens to the circuit of their subjection.

:lol: You know, aside from it being true.

Philosophy isn't programmed into us, and a lot of the forces of our culture steadfastly work against it. Philosophy, for me, is a way of resisting the nihilism of the present by making, creating, affirming. By going on.

:lol: You know, aside from it being true.

We might even define the human as a dynamic process produced by a series of identifications and misidentifications with animality.

Or, sure, we might not.

I think that when people are at their best, when they are thinking, reflecting, cogitating, then they are doing philosophy. So I don't see philosophy as an academic enterprise.

Unless of course you take it seriously.

Humor is human. Why? Well, because the Philosopher, Aristotle, says so.

Yo, Ayn!
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun May 17, 2020 6:43 pm

John Lydon

Freedom isn't to do what you want at somebody else's expense.


On the other hand, he didn't always think that way.

If you are pissing people off, you know you are doing something right.

Now that's more like it.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Only since the day I was born, he fumed.

You should never, ever be understood completely.

Uh, fat chance?

I'm not here for your amusement. You're here for mine.

Only now [apparently] it's the other way around..

I don't believe in anarchy, because it will ultimately amount to the power of the bully, with weapons. Gandhi is my life's inspiration: passive resistance. I don't want to live in the Thunderdome with Mad Max.

Where's punk philosophy when we need it!
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun May 17, 2020 8:09 pm

Doth

It’s a perfect night to get lost in the woods & change your name to something only the wolves can pronounce.


Let's think of some.

Start off each morning with a cup of coffee & remember that time wants you dead.

If, for example, time could talk.

I am fully prepared to die trying to pet a wolf.

And, no, not the one at the zoo.

The monster isn’t under your bed or in the woods, it’s you. The monster has always been you.

If only one of millions.

We should be able to chose our afterlife after living through this bullshit.

Yo, Buddha!

Waking up always raises an age-old dilemma: why

That's what the snooze button is for.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun May 17, 2020 8:26 pm

Simon Critchley

My favourite writer is Beckett and I keep going back to wallow in his work like a deep pool of dark humour or like an oxygen tank when you can't breath in a world consumed by piety, hypocrisy and self-satisfaction.


My guess: You may not agree.

In the US, what passes for Christianity - and it is, to say the least, a highly perverse, possessive individualist and capitalist version of what I would see as Christ's messianic ethical communism, to say the least - is a new civil religion, a civil religion of freedom.

Your guess: I may not agree.
With the second part.


Melancholia for Freud is the relationship that the subject takes up with respect to itself from the position of what he calls conscience or what he later calls the super-ego. And that can be lacerated - if you think of the anorexic who sees themselves from the perspective of the image they have, of the image they have of themselves in the mirror which is false - that would be the super-ego. Super-ego is what generates depression and it is what has to be dealt with in psychoanalysis.

Next up: Melancholia for the rest of us.

Philosophy for me is essentially atheistic. Now that's an anxious atheism. It's an atheism that is anxious because it inhabits questions that were resolved religiously in the pre-modern period.

Let's at least try to make sense of this.

Obama dreams of a society without power relations, without the agonism that constitutes political life. Against such a position one might assert that justice is always an agon, a conflict, and to refuse this assertion is to consign human beings to wallow in some emotional, fusional balm.

:lol:
Mr. Bilderberg? I mean give me a break!

Here we observe the basic obsessive fantasy of Žižek's position: do nothing, sit still, prefer not to, like Melville's Bartleby, and silently dream of a ruthless violence, a consolidation of state power into one man's hands, an act of brutal physical force of which you are the object or the subject or both at once.

What can I say...intellectuals.
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