The planes that circle my house are mechanical vultures

This thread is about my fear. Whether this fear is irrational or natural, I’d like you people to decide.

The situation is this: I’ve lived really close to a local municipal airport for a large portion of my life, since childhood. These planes are the small ones, cesnas and pipers, some jets, but still, the noise they make is like God took a buzzsaw and sliced the sky in half. These plane engines start up the ruckus from 8 in the morning and last until late in the evening. It seems that they are taking off, one after another, almost every minute.

You might think I’d get used to the noise, that it might fade into the background, but it never has for me and I’m constantly made aware of them circling my house.

And here’s why: In 1997 a plane crashed in a neighborhood on the opposite side of the airport, less than a mile from where I live. My initial reaction was fear, although a minor fear, but I worked it up in my mind, because I wanted to write a fiction story about repeated plane crashes, based on the very fear of it.

But in reality, planes did start to crash in various neighborhoods over the next few years. In fact, there were 8 plane crashes in a span of the following 7 years. I paid very close to these incidents in the newspapers. People who lived in the neighborhoods surrounding the airport all expressed a fear to the reporters, and investigations were done due to the excessive number of crashes, but nothing ever changed, the airport was never shut down, and the investigations never revealed anything to the public.

It got to the point that when driving home, if I saw smoke coming up over the distant trees, I knew what it was. A plane crash. This particular crash made me feel like nostradamas, because I once asked this girl who lived closer to the airport than me if she ever had the same fear. She said no. Months later a plane crashed directly across from her house.

Many of these pilots are training to fly, with no experience. Some of these planes are experimental planes, meaning they were built by scratch by some amateur. When the engines buzz over my house, I always listen for a failing engine. This causes great anxiety given how often I hear them. Day after day. Year after year.

What I want to know is, am I making a big deal out of this? I know what many of you will say: “Why cant you just move way?” Well, I cant because of money reasons, but I assure you, I would move the second I got a chance. This issue is really important to me, because the noise pollution has caused me to have a conflict with my immediate environment and it truly stresses me out. I’m always thinking a plane is going to crash into my house. I understand the odds of that, but the fact that I almost predicted these crashes freaks me out even more.

To top it off, when I go into stores in my neighborhood, they all have birds-eye view photos of their little establishment. A neighbor who knew one of the dead pilots was quoted in the paper as saying the pilot “was a good man, very down to earth.” Down to fucking earth!

It clearly doesn’t bother others the way it bothers me.

I’d love to read as much feedback as you people will give me.

Get out of there man! You are clearly not going to have a plane crash into your house. Even per the statistics you just listed, the probability is tremendous. Either way, you are slowly losing your mind and your happiness, when you could be be at peace by just changing your environment. You will never make enough money to leave, living near an airport, so just leave! Right?

It’s funny how so many people don’t realize that where they live, effects their immediate success. It’s impossible to win, when you live in shit. (No offense. Not suggesting you do.)

We all choose our destiny. Why have you chosen yours?

If I leave, I picture myself living on the streets of some beach community, dealing with dangers that are far more realistic. I’d be much happier if the citizens of my town would come together to shut down the airport. There is no reason for these flights, there is no destination, they just circle around.

I knew if I posted this, I would get “move away” but I feel that if I went somewhere else I’d run into another enviromental conflict. Maybe I’m weak minded. Welcome to the world, right?

All I know is that if I made noise that bothered my neighbor, I would be the one who was evicted. Not the other way around. Noise pollution in the future will just get worse.

You say, we choose our destinty, well, I wish I believed that cause determinism seems more likely to me. Thanks for responding.

I say you go with your gut feeling. If you’ve thought about it this much, maybe there is a reason?

I always try and go with my intuition on things, no matter how bizarre it may seem.

If it bothers me anymore, I will leave. Too stressful. As I’m sure you know, comfort and security keep us from taking the risks that may be benificial to us in the long run.

Old Gobbo, where would you go, if you just took off.

Believe what you will. Life can be better! My life is great and I continue to strive for avenues to make it even better. Fortunately, the majority of people in this world don’t realize they have the same power, making “the taking” so much easier.

Good luck to you, my ill-fated friend!

(what is luck? what does it really mean?) :wink:

Somewhere tropical most likely…

It would be great to just take off… it’s a fun concept to throw around. Sometimes you just get so sick of it. One time I went to Cuba… the people down may bust their asses for asshole westerners… but they live in such a simple paradise.

You life is great and my life sucks, but death is the great equalizer. I cant figure out if that’s optimism or pessimism.

tropical would be nice. I’ve never travelled outside of new england.

I live just upwards in Nova Scotia, and it can get a dreary on the east coast.

It sure can. At least we dont get massive floods, earthquakes, or hurricanes.

By the way, that educate yourself .org has some pretty freaky links.

Definitely pessimism! Damn it man. I’m trying to inspire you to take what is rightfully yours. You don’t want it. You choose your path. Are you just afraid of change?

I could die right now, quite happily. Would we be equally dead? Sure, but what do I care?

yes, I dont have much life experience and as I get older I feel less equipped for change. Like I said, I wouldn’t want anyone to have my kind of life.

How old are you?

When I first joined this site in 2002 and began to explore philosophy, I was just barely feeling my way out of Christianity. I was a die hard socialist/ democrat that believed we should all receive the same portion and I couldn’t hold a job for shit. I was 21.

I came to realize over the years that I was in control of my destiny. A little push here and a little struggle there, things started to get better. I was afraid, but every time I took a step into the unknown, I realized that whether it gets better or worse, this is life and I’m not going to waste it sitting on my ass waiting for things to get better. I am 26 now and in five years, I’ve stepped up. I now make nearly $60k annually, drive a brand new car, have my own place in a high class community, and I’m happy. I’ve got a lot more that I want, but that’s why I keep on struggling, b/c I know that it keeps on getting better. Anybody that tells you that money doesn’t bring happiness is right, but it does bring the freedom to happiness.

If you want to sit around and hope that someone will shit on you, go ahead, and they will. Quit being the victim! You are the most powerful being in your universe, and the only one that is really worth a damn, right? Take what is yours. Keep pushing and never give up. It all seems tedious at first, and you have to give up a lot of your current “pitiful” joys to get there, and it’s hard fucking work. But you know what?!!!

The pay off is amazing!

90% of airports were built before houses surrounding them were built. Can’t claim noise pollution when it was preexisting. Can’t blame airports or pilots. People love to build near Airports just like they love to build near water. Why is beyond me, You get noise and flooding. Ahh well, somethings are worth it I suppose.

Get earplugs. Buck up! Save your money and move ASAP. Try to spend as little time as possible there until you move. Hang out at libraries or such where you don’t have to spend money. Skeptic is right about environment. You can’t succeed if you are surrounded by shit. If you have two healthy feet you can move. Our ancestors did it, people still do it. People live on the streets, people live in tents on campgrounds, etc. We only think we need luxuries.

The title of this thread is so beautiful! :smiley:

Thanks, it was once used in a piece of fiction of mine.

As to those giving me advice, I super appreciate it, although I should probably comment about a few things.

When I started this thread, I was hoping to see someone say something other than move away. I think that if I run away from this type of problem, where ever I land I’ll find a new problem to run away from. I was hoping it might be suggested that I take a stance of some kind, whatever that would entail.

I’m amazed what people will put up with, whether it be noise pollution or, say, privacy issues with government spying. There’s not much resistance these days, anymore. A lot of complacency. A sort of impotent resignation, thats says "what can we do about it, really?’

Somehow, I’m at fault with disapproving of local airport dangers. Those dangers are minimized and called anxiety of the individual. There have even been anxiety banners posted on the bottom of this thread. You make of that what you will . . .

Dude, you moved next to an airport. It was there before the houses were built around it most likely. Take a stance on what? You chose to be there. So either buck up or move, that airport was there before you were. Its unfair and ridiculous to blame it or try to change it.

People should stand up… but this time you are in the wrong, this has nothing to do with Gov’t being a bully. This has to do with who was there first. you move near a river that floods, you will get flooded. You can’t seriously expect the river to move. You can’t seriously expect the airport to change.

When I first moved here, I was a child under my parents care. I had little choice. I grew up around here. I didn’t scout the place out by overlooking the airport.

Okay I can move now, but let me explain something to you: I dont feel that escaping the dangers of my immediate environment will change anything, given the technological encroachment on almost all living areas. And this is the point I’m trying to make. Ever see star wars with all the flying cars flying around every inch of air space. Yeah, that’s the future. And it has little consideration for the individuals down below.

What is it about planes flying around in circles with no destination, by pilots who have no experience, that you find deserves a proper place in the middle of city? 8 crashes in 7 years is to be expected, right?

Oh, let me guess, you’re one of those people who can reason it out by calling the invasion of technology commonplace and inevitable. You travel down the highway at a cool 80 miles per, spouting off facts of plane travel crashes versus car crashes and the odds and probabilites of the fatal accidents, always ignoring the dangers because the destination is so much more important and you’ve got places to go. You might consider the dangers of travel irrational, but hey, everybody else is doing it, you gotta get to work somehow and it’s all about survival, right. This kind of stupidity is why technology, once considered a savior, will do us in. Because a majority of stupid fucks love their gadgets. It doesn’t matter that these gadgets will one day be used for our destruction, because these gadgets are super sleek cool.

With your logic, not taking a stance, means moving away from everything. I should just leave the planet, because it was here first. Stupid.