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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby gib » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:46 pm

mannikin wrote:Always.. There are answers in all my paintings..nothing is in vain.


Hmm... interesting. That's kind of the opposite of mine. The meaninglessness you see in mine is deliberate. I want to see what the viewer projects onto it.
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby mannikin » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:48 pm

Im not sure if there is any such thing as meaningless
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby gib » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:42 pm

mannikin wrote:Im not sure if there is any such thing as meaningless


I actually agree with this. But the meaning that exists in my drawings is in plane sight. For example, Doll in the Snow: What you see there is a doll that perhaps was abandoned in a dark alley. It stayed there for who knows how long, collecting dust, getting soaked by rain, getting worn by the elements. And then the snow started falling. The doll wears a strange mask emanating a red glow. <-- But that's it. That's all I give you. There's no hidden meaning. As far as why the doll is wearing the mask or why it's glowing, well, I have nothing. That's the void I want the viewer to fill with their own meaning.

Now admittedly, sometimes I can't help myself, and I project my own meaning onto it, such as the description I give on the right hand side at my website, the one about the demon seeking a place to rest, but even that is a meaning that wasn't originally there and it fills a void.
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby Arcturus Descending » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:34 pm

gib wrote:
mannikin wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:Makes me wonder just what he IS reading - and what the other two books are and just who "he" is.
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Only i know this and i will take it to my grave.


So presumably, there's an actual answer to this question?


Gib,

is the sense of wonderment which the painting has provoked more important than having the question itself answered?

I think that sometimes what rises up in us as a result of the art is more important.
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby gib » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:14 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:is the sense of wonderment which the painting has provoked more important than having the question itself answered?


It's an interesting question. I think the impression art gives the viewer (sense of wonderment) is its primary natural function, but once the artist explicitly says they have a secret intended meaning, that completely distracts from the original impression.

It's like someone saying: "I've got a secret but I'm not telling." <-- Well, now you've gotta know.

And then there's the question of: what happens when there's a riff between what the viewer gets out of the art and what the artist intends. I mean, if you look at Manni's piece in her sig, she (he?) seems to be saying that man is devolving into a pig (metaphorically, of course) in virtue of our lazy, fast-food, immediate gratification culture. But what if, in Manni's mind, pigs are beautiful, awesome creatures, and it's a privilege to be evolving towards them? Then Manni might be disconcerted and say: "No, no, no, you've got it all wrong!" Is it more important to go with our own first impressions or try to get at what the artist intended?
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby mannikin » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:25 am

For fuck sake, if you must know...he's reading kamasutra for children edition....

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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby mannikin » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:38 pm

..because he's a detective trying to understand the psychology of what makes the criminal tick regarding this material..
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:46 pm

gib,


But what if, in Manni's mind, pigs are beautiful, awesome creatures, and it's a privilege to be evolving towards them? Then Manni might be disconcerted and say: "No, no, no, you've got it all wrong!"


I may be wrong here but if you look at the man right before he transformed into a pig --with his belly hanging down and the bag which is in his hand, it's pretty clear the connotation which manni was trying to provoke.
Aside from that, I think that pigs are really cute. I wonder if they actually consume as much as us humans do in one meal.

Is it more important to go with our own first impressions or try to get at what the artist intended?

There is always that first impression but to go with just that?!!! would be mindless don't you think?
It's fascinating and fun to try to figure out what the artist intended but it's even more fun and worthwhile to "see" what the art invokes in us?
it's like going on a kind of journey of discovery - and inward one.
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby mannikin » Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:27 am

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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby gib » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:09 am

AutSider wrote:Image


Dude, you gotta prove that's you.
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby MagsJ » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:59 pm

AutSider wrote:[img]---[/img]

I see you got back in the gym like you said you would.. good job.
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby Arcturus Descending » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:23 pm

AutSider wrote:Image



I cannot believe that YOU posted THAT.
Is it really you? :-k

It is quite a pleasant image. :mrgreen:
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:36 pm

Aut, hurry up and seal the deal before she goes fickle on you.
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:01 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Aut, hurry up and seal the deal before she goes fickle on you.


Pleasant images are just that. They don't need to be more than that, UP.
Stop your projecting!
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What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby gib » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:22 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
Pleasant images are just that. They don't need to be more than that, UP.
Stop your projecting!


Arc, I think you're projecting your accusations of projection. :D
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:26 pm

gib wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:
Pleasant images are just that. They don't need to be more than that, UP.
Stop your projecting!


Arc, I think you're projecting your accusations of projection. :D


Nice avatar, gib. :lol:
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What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby Artimas » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:27 pm

MagsJ wrote:
AutSider wrote:[img]---[/img]

I see you got back in the gym like you said you would.. good job.



I just saw that INTJ in your signature, did the test and got INTJ as well.. lol


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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby MagsJ » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:07 pm

Artimas wrote:I just saw that INTJ in your signature, did the test and got INTJ as well.. lol


Introvert(56%) iNtuitive(34%) Thinking(31%) Judging(3%) for me.

That would explain our identical penchant for caducei and other such things.. our percentages being quite close I guess.. especially the weirdly low Judging element.

Now I understand why whenever I read your posts, I instantly got you/understood the perspective you were coming from.. weird, but cool. :D
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby gib » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:39 am

Pic taken by my daughter:

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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:00 am

Awe, that looks like a happy moment Gibsomemore.
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby gib » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:21 am

WendyDarling wrote:Awe, that looks like a happy moment Gibsomemore.


Yeah, we were having a good time. Forget where we were going though.
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It is impossible for a human being to go through life not thinking irrationally even if they think of themselves as rational
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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

Postby mannikin » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:15 pm

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Re: Official: Post a Picture of Yourself

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