Your Top Ten Movies All Time

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Postby someoneisatthedoor » Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:19 pm

Old_Gobbo wrote:
SIATD wrote:6) Eyes Wide Shut (Kubrick, 1999)


Interesting choice.. alot of people would say it's a shitty movie (perhaps Kubrick's worst)


Stanley maintained it was his best. However I've not read the novel from which is was adapted, as I have with A Clockwork Orange, The Short Timers (Full Metal Jacket), 2001: etc.

however if you approach the movie in the way of a dream.. sequence (or lack thereof) you see alot more. It plays just like a dream does.. alot of teasing and ridiculousness than any real resolution. It's like cruise's character is sitting at work half asleep with lustful thoughts in his head.


The motif of the Christmas lights contributes to this, though from my watching I noticed that pink Christmas lights preceded any scene of nudity or sexual conflict. Perhaps this was intentional, perhaps not.

This is compounded by the seemingly strange way that kidman and cruise interact.. like a married couple who know they are both gorgeous.. but still in some sort of a sexual angst. Why would cruise be out looking for sex.. when he's married to such a gorgeous wife himself? I think that at least some of the movie is a dream.. because there is a scene where the costume guy sells his daugther to some men or something.. but then the next day the whole thing seems different? I forget I haven't seen it in a while


Cruise turns up at night to get the costume and the Father unlocks the store and finds his daughter in there with 2 men (very, very pretty actress, possibly the most beautiful in a film populated by beautiful women - more fantasy/dream connotations) and blows his lid. The following day when Cruise returns the costume (sans the mask) everything is sorted out and the Father is now whoring his daughter out to the men, he even offers her to Cruise.

Cruise isn't looking for sex for the sake of sex, he's looking for it as a weapon, a secret he can hold from his wife like the one she reveals to him about the handsome soldier in the stoned scene in the bedroom.

Why is this important? Because the whole movie is about how sex need not be an intimate act, how it has increasingly become a public act, a tool in a discourse or battle. This is a theme I'm exploring in one of my own novels (which may yet end up as a screenplay) and a very timely one for the late 90s. Incidentally the original book was set in 1920s Vienna, and so was very different.

In a way I feel like Kubrick played a practical joke on the whole business.. because he dared to make a film he -knew- most would hate.. and with the cast he had and the expectations.... he smiled evilly to himself and went about his business.


I think he was clever in advertising the film as a piece of erotica (the trailers showing Kidman's naked rump and shots from the orgy in the house) when it is actually about the awkward, embarassing, risky business of sex rather than just being a piece designed for comfortable voyeurism. For those who just wanna see titty there's plenty of it, but anyone who actually follows the story will be more likely to end the movie in confused tears than with an erection.

Anyways.. like I said interesting choice.

Oh and someone.. if you look at the matrix purely froma philosophical point of view.. it's near overflowing.


No, it isn't. 2 minutes of dialogue butchering the opening page of Descartes' Meditations doesn't qualify as philosophical content when the same theme had been dealt with far more effectively a decade before in Total Recall. You might also want to watch Pi, which is the best British sci-fi movie ever made, and has more philosophical content in it's opening scene than in the whole of the Matrix trilogy.


Sure there is alot of special effects.. and keanu's bullshit... but you HAVE to admit, the philosophical questions brought forth are both the old classics.. and a few ones ones (AI god, etc)

Com'n.. .you can't even give it a 9th place spot?


The questions are never answered, and aren't even brought forth to inspire questionning. They are brought forth to allow for the narrative conceit of two worlds that is necessary to justify the SFX sequences which are the primary concern of the movie. They don't really ask 'what is reality?' they ask it so they have an excuse to piss about with lots of cameras at different angles.

Visually and technologically the movie is extremely innovative. Thematically it is shallow, ignorant and unoriginal. If you'd watched as many movies as I have you'd realise just how much philosophical content can be put into a movie and you'd also realise that there's as much philosophy in the Matrix as in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
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Postby Kolibri » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:52 pm

Off the top of my head and in no particular order:

Aliens 2
Dogma
Saw
Fight Club
Star Wars
Indiana Jones 3
Shrek
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Resident Evil
Dumb & Dumber

I probably forgot many movies, so this isn't a definitive list.
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Postby Sagesound » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:09 pm

someoneisatthedoor wrote:
Sagesound wrote:I don't think I ever could come down to my all time favorite top ten movies because there's just too many of them..maybe a top 50 but that's too many to list right now... so... I'm going to do something different, and actually a lot easier. I'll list my top ten favorite directors...

Sagesound's Top Ten Directors

1. Akira Kurosawa
2. Stanley Kubrick
3. Stephen Spielberg
4. John McTeirnan
5. John Carpenter
6. James Cameron
7. Ridley Scott
8. Quentin Tarantino
9. Frank Darabont
10. John Milius


I'm shocked and appalled that you'd pick Darabont (who has made a number of overly long, boring movies that make no effort to use the medium effectively) over Hitchcock and that you'd take McTeirnan over Fritz Lang.


I admit that "The Majestic" was a bit drawn out, but Darabont's particular use of time allows the viewer to soak in more character development and plot as used in "The Green Mile" and "The Shawshank Redemption" (that movie being the reason I put him on the list). He's also working on "Farenheit 451" right now...

I'm not an overt fan of Hitchcock. Mainly because I'm just not really into his kind of filmwork, and I have my reasons why I chose McTiernan. Which reminds me, how many Lang films have you seen???

I really expected someone to give an uproar about Milius being on the list...
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Postby Gobbo » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:25 pm

SIATD wrote:Visually and technologically the movie is extremely innovative. Thematically it is shallow, ignorant and unoriginal. If you'd watched as many movies as I have you'd realise just how much philosophical content can be put into a movie and you'd also realise that there's as much philosophy in the Matrix as in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.


Obviously we disagree..

However I would still urge you to check out the matrix 2 again.. skip all the fighting scenes and see what remains, if you still contend it's ignorant and unoriginal I guess I'll have to live with that.. but I just.. can't agree with that critique. Also.. have you seen the animatrix? it's a great enforcer to the main storyline, also jammed full with philosophical ideas.. (self realization for humans/robots, human nature, desire, etc). I haven't seen as many movies as you (I've heard Pi is amazing though) but I suspect you might not have caught all there is to catch the first time through.. I've seen the movie countless times and i still find things... the W bros attention to detail is incredible. Sure this may be their 1 trick pony.. but I think this pony does it's tricks extremely well (except for the 3rd movie).

Also.. how do you guys feel about David Lynch? i think muholland drive is... a mindboggling genuis film.
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Postby Skydaemon » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:58 pm

Sagesound's Top Ten Directors

1. Akira Kurosawa
2. Stanley Kubrick
3. Stephen Spielberg
4. John McTeirnan
5. John Carpenter
6. James Cameron
7. Ridley Scott
8. Quentin Tarantino
9. Frank Darabont
10. John Milius

Interesting idea. This is a LOT easier than trying to think of ten movies. My argument is with James Cameron mostly. Now don't get me totally wrong, I think he's a good director but I definitely wouldn't put him in the top ten. He likes to add too much of his own fluff into the movies for me to get him up there too high (doesn't help that I disagree with most of his fluff). And I agree that I would put Hitchcock in there, but I like his style.

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Also.. how do you guys feel about David Lynch? i think muholland drive is... a mindboggling genuis film.

David Lynch is a good director but I think his film style is too wacky to fit for most people. Mulholland Drive was good, and for tv, Twin Peaks was good (at least I thought), but both can be definitely hard to follow or make sense of, even for those who try. There's just a different way you have to go into a Lynch movie to really get anything out of it.

As for my attempt at a top ten, here goes, but this is subject to change weekly.
1. Alien (yeah I'm weird)
2. The Princess Bride
3. Hero
4. American Beauty
5. Psycho
6. Gladiator
7. Full Metal Jacket
8. Office Space
9. Seven Samurai
10. Sin City

Odd to most (if not all) of you I'm sure. But there you go.
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Postby Gobbo » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:04 am

There's just a different way you have to go into a Lynch movie to really get anything out of it.


Yeah that's true...

Hero is an amazing movie btw.. I prolly shoulda had it on my list
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Postby someoneisatthedoor » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:20 am

Sagesound wrote:
someoneisatthedoor wrote:
Sagesound wrote:I don't think I ever could come down to my all time favorite top ten movies because there's just too many of them..maybe a top 50 but that's too many to list right now... so... I'm going to do something different, and actually a lot easier. I'll list my top ten favorite directors...

Sagesound's Top Ten Directors

1. Akira Kurosawa
2. Stanley Kubrick
3. Stephen Spielberg
4. John McTeirnan
5. John Carpenter
6. James Cameron
7. Ridley Scott
8. Quentin Tarantino
9. Frank Darabont
10. John Milius


I'm shocked and appalled that you'd pick Darabont (who has made a number of overly long, boring movies that make no effort to use the medium effectively) over Hitchcock and that you'd take McTeirnan over Fritz Lang.


I admit that "The Majestic" was a bit drawn out, but Darabont's particular use of time allows the viewer to soak in more character development and plot as used in "The Green Mile" and "The Shawshank Redemption" (that movie being the reason I put him on the list). He's also working on "Farenheit 451" right now...

I'm not an overt fan of Hitchcock. Mainly because I'm just not really into his kind of filmwork, and I have my reasons why I chose McTiernan. Which reminds me, how many Lang films have you seen???

I really expected someone to give an uproar about Milius being on the list...


I've no objection to Milius, though Red Dawn is dreadful. I was never a fan of the Shawshank Redemption because it was predictable and took an age getting there. Not that I've any problem with slow story telling per se, I just found the Green Mile and S R to be a bit aimless and tedious.

How many Lang films have I seen? Half a dozen, most of which were after he went to work in America. I'd rank him above Mctiernan, but I'm not going to enter into a big argument right now.
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Postby Sagesound » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:57 am

Skydaemon wrote:
Sagesound's Top Ten Directors

1. Akira Kurosawa
2. Stanley Kubrick
3. Stephen Spielberg
4. John McTeirnan
5. John Carpenter
6. James Cameron
7. Ridley Scott
8. Quentin Tarantino
9. Frank Darabont
10. John Milius

Interesting idea. This is a LOT easier than trying to think of ten movies. My argument is with James Cameron mostly. Now don't get me totally wrong, I think he's a good director but I definitely wouldn't put him in the top ten. He likes to add too much of his own fluff into the movies for me to get him up there too high (doesn't help that I disagree with most of his fluff). And I agree that I would put Hitchcock in there, but I like his style.


It's really interesting you mentioned Cameron, because one of the reasons I put him on the list is what he did with the Alien saga. Don't get me wrong, Ridley Scott is a maker of masterpieces, and Alien sure stacks up there - which is why I said it was interesting you brought this up. However, Cameron took the idea Scott initiated and went further, more in-depth, and made a movie that made you proud to say: "sequels are better." Of course, I don't like all Cameron films, but the ones of his that I have watched displayed a creative and fun approach to movie-making. Like you said, he likes to add his own fluff into the movies. Sometimes this is a good thing, and sometimes not, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be shut out from getting noticed.

someoneisatthedoor wrote:I've no objection to Milius, though Red Dawn is dreadful. I was never a fan of the Shawshank Redemption because it was predictable and took an age getting there. Not that I've any problem with slow story telling per se, I just found the Green Mile and S R to be a bit aimless and tedious.

How many Lang films have I seen? Half a dozen, most of which were after he went to work in America. I'd rank him above Mctiernan, but I'm not going to enter into a big argument right now.


I actually thought Milius should be higher on that list, but there were others who actually directed more movies than he. Yes, Red Dawn is sad...

Darabont seems to never get the recognition he deserves, in my opinion.

I too will not sit here and argue either... mainly because it's generally pointless being Lang and McTiernan are two different kinds of directors.
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Postby thirst4metal » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:16 am

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Skydaemon wrote:4. American Beauty

Ugh! Another mention of "American Beauty." Why? Why is this a top ten film for you?

Also, I think that "House of Flying Daggers" was a better all around film than "Hero" and that neither flick belongs amid the top 40 greatest of all time. But my specific problem with "Hero" is that despite its flawless cinematography and masterful choreography there was so little emotional appeal to Nameless...


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Re: Your Top Ten Movies All Time

Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:57 am

BillWaltonSexUniversity wrote:1.Braveheart
2.American Beauty
3.The Shawshank Redemption
4.American Pie
5.Roger Dodger
6.Happiness
7.Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
8.Life Is Beautiful
9.Gladiator
10.Annie Hall



A Lion in Winter*****
Henry the V*****
Lawrence of Arabia*****
Casablanca
The Great Excape
Heat
The Hunt for Red October
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Caddy Shack
Jaws I

With many honorable mentions
Goodfellas
Most Star Wars
Wizard of Oz
Boudicea
To Catch a Thief
Gladiator


And many more.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:04 am

détrop wrote:
Apocalypse Now
Devils Advocate(a must see)
Stand By Me
Close Encounters of the Third Kind


Yes, I am remembering all my favorites, and big-time RIGHT regarding Devil's Advocate. Great flick. It has been many years since w have gone to the movies as too many individuals believe they have been written into the script. Currently, I am in new digs and do not have a tube or DVD. If I like my new position, my other half will come out and bring the housefull furniture etc. Actually, I do not miss the television except for Sunday Morning.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:07 am

basta da ord wrote:6 - Band of Brothers series (all other war movies will look like GI Joe)
9 - A Few Good Men (I'm a sucker for Demi Moore in uniform)


Two great flicks and I have the Band of Brothers series. My other half agrees regarding Demi Moore. :D
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:10 am

trix wrote:Pretty Woman
Breakfast at Tiffany's
Some Like It Hot
It Happened One Night


Cute flicks. My mother in-law gave me Pretty Woman for Christmas one year.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:15 am

callinblough wrote:
I was thinking about putting Happiness on here too, but I've only seen it once. Same with Schindler's List. And M*A*S*H. But I remember they all made an bigger impact than most other movies. Right?


Chuckle, I forgot both of these and own both, but alas, they are in So. Cal. and I am in Nevada. Great movies.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:19 am

The Underground Man wrote:
Though I got to say I just don't see whats so awesome about 2001 Space Odessy, what am I missing here? I just can't get through that movie.


[.quote]
Neither can I.

Dr. Strangelove


Hilarious flick, love Peter Sellers. How about the first Pink Panther? I loved it.


and I'll recommend :[/quote]

To each his or her own. :wink:
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:22 am

Slartibartfast wrote:
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Dr Strangelove

Pirates of the Carribean
The original Star Wars Trilogy (not the crappy prequels)


Yes, and I enjoyed the recent Star Wars. To each his or her own, right.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:25 am

Smooth wrote:
I'm a bigger Al Pachino fan. Scent of a Woman, THE GODFATHERS, Serpico, Devils Advocate, you know it.


8) Me too, he is hard to beat. Loved him in Heat too.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:27 am

Orthodude wrote:Grafitti=Graffiti


:D Yes, great flick.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:31 am

Caressa wrote:2.Pretty Woman
4.Return of the Jedi
9.E.T.


Love and own all of these. :D
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:34 am

Jake wrote:9. Veronica Guerin-
10. Young Frankenstein


Yes, Veronica Guerin was well done. I love Young Frankenstein, and it is another in my collection.

Hum, Silkwood was well done too.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:39 am

Marble wrote:The Gods must be Crazy (this is a very funny movie)
Ace Ventura (1&2. These movies are just so damn funny)


[.quote]Cute flicks.[/quote]

not a big fan of the tarantino stuff though...and kubric is way overrated imo.


Ditto.

Oh yeah some others i remember now:

Back to the future trilogy


Ditto, what about Ghost? I and my other half love Ghost, another in the collection.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:41 am

Aquarian wrote:
Merlin


Yes, another good flick in our collection.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:50 am

Zen Swashbuckler wrote:Blade Runner


Good movie, hum, based on They Kill Androids Don't They. I probably messed up on the title, anyone remember it?

Slartibartfast - I would enjoy seeing something put together from the like six hours of footage that David Lynch had to leave out of the final film - the totality of which Frank Herbert described as being a good interpretation of his book. The William Hurt version is faithful to the book, but it's not a particularly good film standing on its own.


Hum, I am a huge Herbert fan and have read all his books; how did this flick not gain my notice???

The same occured with the movie Gettysberg, based on the book Killer Angels. The movie sucked, but the book was great. In contrast, Glory is one the best movies ever made. Why, the music and action scenes were well done. Most of this is great directing. For example, IMO, National Treasure sucked in spite of the great ideas, some great music, but it was not well put together, something was wrong, but I am not expert in movie making and could not put my finger on the problems.
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:52 am

:D Hi all, aren't we forgetting The Rock??
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Postby aspacia » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:56 am

détrop wrote:Has anyone seen the movie by Alfred Hitchcock called 'Rope?"


Nope, but I have never disliked a Hitchcock movie, actually, I can't think of one not well done. Brilliant man. 8)
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