Your Top Ten Movies All Time

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Postby Quizkid » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:14 am

No particular order, but here they are:

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Casablanca
Rope
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
The Marriage of Maria Braun
Rashomon
Reservoir Dogs
The Big Lebowski
Stalag 17
Magnolia
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Postby Gobbo » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:41 am

Magnolia


One of, if not my favorite movie. Fantastic music (among other things)

Definately Tom Cruise's best performance.
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Postby someoneisatthedoor » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:47 am

Tom Cruise's best performance is in Top Gun, surely? Homoerotica city!


I think the Marriage of Maria Braun is a good movie, but not the best. I think Fassbinder had very strong ideas and conveyes them excellently, but basic things like poor editing detracted from an otherwise excellent movie.
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Postby someoneisatthedoor » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:52 am

Okay Gobbo, I'll race you to 2000.


(Just an excuse to get one more post)
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Postby Gobbo » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:54 am

LoL
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Postby Dunamis » Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:27 am

Movies

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Blade Runner
3. Andrei Rublev
4. A Chinese Odyssey
5. Wuthering Heights (1939)
6. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
7. L' Aventura
8. Fist of the White Lotus
9. Il Gattopardo
10. Any Zatoichi movie

Directors

1.Kurasowa
[noticeable gap]
2.Tarkovsky
3.Hitchcock
4.Visconti
5.Kubrick
6.Antonioni
7.Polanski
8.Lean
9.Melville
10.Lynch




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Postby James No. 2 » Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:22 am

1. Fight Club
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Forrest Gump
4. Terminator 2
5. The Matrix
6. True Lies
7. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
8. Wings of Desire
9. Stalingrad
10. The Fifth Element
11. The Usual Suspects
12. Starship Troopers
13. Full Metal Jacket
14. Groundhog Day
15. Snatch
16. The Blues Brothers (original)
17. Gattaca
18. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
19. Star Wars Episode V & VI
20. 2001: A Space Odyssey
21. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
22. The Royal Tenenbaums
23. Zoolander
24. Aguirre: The Wrath of God
25. Eyes Wide Shut
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Postby Dunamis » Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:22 am

James,


A few off the cuff responses:


1. Fight Club – lame twist, great fight scenes
2. Pulp Fiction – nice energy
3. Forrest Gump – missed it, Tom Hanks annoys me
4. Terminator 2 – fucking great, should have put it on my list
5. The Matrix – tick below T2
6. True Lies – much better than I thought it would be
7. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon – awesome on many levels
8. Wings of Desire – great images and ideas, but how can Peter Falk be the lead in a top 10 movie
9. Stalingrad – haven’t seen it
10. The Fifth Element – Mila is great, even hotter in The Messenger
11. The Usual Suspects – great ending man
12. Starship Troopers – pretty good, funny – perhaps RoboCop was more and better of the same
13. Full Metal Jacket – over rated; one good scene
14. Groundhog Day – funny as hell, but not that funny
15. Snatch – underrated, great pace and humor
16. The Blues Brothers (original) – classic, but perhaps a bit too classic
17. Gattaca – nice, cool withdrawn colors and tone. But it seemed an art director filmed it
18. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade – damn another great one I missed, but you put 25 down
19. Star Wars Episode V & VI - awesome
20. 2001: A Space Odyssey – way ahead of its time – and every time
21. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind – brilliant, brilliant, brilliant
22. The Royal Tenenbaums – totally overrated, but great cast
23. Zoolander – totally underrated (and lame at the same time); hilarious
24. Aguirre: The Wrath of God – the documentary of its making “My Best Fiend” was even better
25. Eyes Wide Shut – totally over-rated. No one realized it was a satire.






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Postby Gobbo » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:00 am

23. Zoolander – totally underrated (and lame at the same time); hilarious


Such a classic movie.. the product placment could be considered as in the top 5 of all time. Such a funny film.
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Postby Gobbo » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:02 am

Dunamis wrote:Movies

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Blade Runner
3. Andrei Rublev
4. A Chinese Odyssey
5. Wuthering Heights (1939)
6. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
7. L' Aventura
8. Fist of the White Lotus
9. Il Gattopardo
10. Any Zatoichi movie

Directors

1.Kurasowa
[noticeable gap]
2.Tarkovsky
3.Hitchcock
4.Visconti
5.Kubrick
6.Antonioni
7.Polanski
8.Lean
9.Melville
10.Lynch




Dunamis


Should be higher... just my opinion.

As well, Muholland Drive should be on the movie list... that film is utterly brilliant.
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Postby James No. 2 » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:21 am

D.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. The twist in Fight Club did not strike me as lame, although this does not mean that it wasn't somewhat predictable. For me it was no better or worse than the twist in The Sixth Sense, except the rest of the movie was much better.

13. Full Metal Jacket – over rated; one good scene


This was one I only saw recently, and I have to say I really enjoyed it. Better than Apocalyse Now or Platoon, in my books. Robert Goran is fantastic. The dialogue was very sharp for the most.

16. The Blues Brothers (original) – classic, but perhaps a bit too classic


Yeah I get a sense of this; which is why it isn't higher on the list.

22. The Royal Tenenbaums – totally overrated, but great cast


Well I was not exposed to its 'rating' beforehand, so didn't know what to expect. I really appreciated the sense of humor.

25. Eyes Wide Shut – totally over-rated. No one realized it was a satire.


Well I can see how it might be a satire, though I must say it inspired a certain foreboding even when I was tempted to smile or laugh. There was just something disturbing about it, something that was almost absurd, and which kept me in tension. The whole film was on an edge, hinting at something. When I think about the film, I keep remembering that expression on Tom Cruise's face, with that bloody piano note ringing out; he had this suspicious look, like he was unsure whether to laugh or not. If you want to call the film a satire, then I think you need to keep in mind the ambiguity of that look; that near craziness which crept up in his eyes as he was progressively taken out of his comfort zone, his sense of order and norm. It seemed on the brink of releasing something almost animalistic in him. I loved how the sense of the movie as a whole was caught up in that ambivalence and that hesitancy.


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Postby Dunamis » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:49 am

O.G.

Such a classic movie.. the product placment could be considered as in the top 5 of all time.

This is a very funny line. :)

Should be higher... just my opinion.

It’s strange. I felt that, but I also felt that he should be dropped out the list, as his films seem private pleasure which I peek into, and in that way a bit adolescent, and maybe a film should be more. Also he doesn’t make enough of them, or move on to new and different levels. That being said, Dune was very underrated and distinct.





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Postby Dunamis » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:56 am

James,

I agree with pretty much everything you said. The twist in Fight Club did not strike me as lame, although this does not mean that it wasn't somewhat predictable. For me it was no better or worse than the twist in The Sixth Sense, except the rest of the movie was much better.

You compare one lame twist with an even lamer one. We might as well throw the Crying Game in there :)

Better than Apocalyse Now or Platoon

Agreed. Maybe try The Deer Hunter. I'll confess that I'm not a fan of Vietnam War movies. Rambo might have been the best. :)

I really appreciated the sense of humor.

Don’t you think his other movies, Rushmore and even his last The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou one, was in my opinion better/funnier.





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Postby someoneisatthedoor » Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:04 pm

James No. 2 wrote:
25. Eyes Wide Shut – totally over-rated. No one realized it was a satire.


Well I can see how it might be a satire, though I must say it inspired a certain foreboding even when I was tempted to smile or laugh. There was just something disturbing about it, something that was almost absurd, and which kept me in tension. The whole film was on an edge, hinting at something. When I think about the film, I keep remembering that expression on Tom Cruise's face, with that bloody piano note ringing out; he had this suspicious look, like he was unsure whether to laugh or not. If you want to call the film a satire, then I think you need to keep in mind the ambiguity of that look; that near craziness which crept up in his eyes as he was progressively taken out of his comfort zone, his sense of order and norm. It seemed on the brink of releasing something almost animalistic in him. I loved how the sense of the movie as a whole was caught up in that ambivalence and that hesitancy.


I think it's an excellent movie and underrated by many. It overrated as erotica, there's nothing in the movie that hasn't been seen elsewhere but underrated as a comedy.

The scene when Cruise is awkwardly negotiating with the (unrealistically beautiful) prostitute is hilarious.

Cruise: So, should we talk about money...?
Hooker: That depends on what you wanna do... What do you wanna do?
Cruise: I don't know... What do you recommend?

Note also the absurd way that every female (including Milic's daughter) in the film is gorgeous. The proliferation of Christmas lights, the overly rich colouring (especially in the marital bedroom where the couple get stoned and Kidman delivers that chilling monologue where she slices through Cruise's ego like an iceberg through a ship) and the fact that most of the story takes place at nighttime all produce a fantastical quality, brought down to earth by the final line where Kidman says that Cruise and herself need, above all else, to go home and fuck. If Kubrick hadn't intended for the movie to leave a smile on our faces then why choose such an inappropriately coarse final gag?


Edit - the piano does get on my nerves.
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Postby Gobbo » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:25 pm

Dunamis wrote:O.G.

Such a classic movie.. the product placment could be considered as in the top 5 of all time.

This is a very funny line. :)

Should be higher... just my opinion.

It’s strange. I felt that, but I also felt that he should be dropped out the list, as his films seem private pleasure which I peek into, and in that way a bit adolescent, and maybe a film should be more. Also he doesn’t make enough of them, or move on to new and different levels. That being said, Dune was very underrated and distinct.





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Well, for Muholland Drive I felt like I was rather having HIM show ME something.. when it ended I literally sat there for an hour and tried to figure it out.. so at least for that one I found it more of an interactive experience.. rather than a passive 'look at the nice shots' type of thing. I can't really remember Lost Highway that much.. but Dune was really good. You're right though.. he doesn't make enough films.

(man.. I really need to watch a Kurasowa movie)
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Postby Bessy » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:57 pm

I feel like I have been in a bubble all these years and rarely sit down to watch a movie. I plan on renting some of the ones you mentioned.

Four Weddings and a Funeral
Pulp Fiction
Wuthering Heights
Top Gun
Uncle Buck
Amelie
A Man and a Woman
The Red Balloon
My Cousin Vinny
The Wizard of Oz
Gone With the Wind
First Knight
Bridges of Madison County (I have lived it so... duh)
Princess Bride
Moonstruck
When Harry Met Sally
Body Heat

(if Dr. Satanical still thinks I am a boy after this list, I will plutz.)
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Postby someoneisatthedoor » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:35 pm

4 Weddings? Dear oh Dear.

The best Hugh Grant vehicle is The Englishman who went up a hill and came down a mountain
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Postby Bessy » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:00 pm

I don't think that movie was so much about Hugh Grant, but about friendships, loyalty and true love. It spoke to me and I laughed all the way through it. Saying "Oh dear" seems disrepectful. Is your opinion of my favorite movie more important than mine? Hmmm. :roll:
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Postby Gobbo » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:13 pm

The Wizard of Oz


Interesting choice.. I don't think we've seen this one on the thread yet.. and I'm sort of surprised by that for some reason.
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Postby Bessy » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:45 pm

Hey monkey,

My favorite part was all those flying monkeys. They used to scare the life outa me. :wink:

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Postby Dunamis » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:50 pm

Some.

The scene when Cruise is awkwardly negotiating with the (unrealistically beautiful) prostitute is hilarious.

Dead on, (and you're right to be precise about "erotica"). Even more telling is the scene sequence where Kidman and Tom have their pot-smoking soul-bearing talk, and we are supposed to feel, ah...the surface is finally stripped bare, finally some substance, (which you describe perfectly) but then notice, Cruise goes on a house call, and the couple he visits is a visual and emotion parody of Kid and Tom, a cartoon of both their serious, "true" selves, and even of the two of them as a celebrity couple. Beyond hilarity. Who even knows if Tom even got the joke within the joke, within the joke.





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Postby Dunamis » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:15 pm

O.G.

when it ended I literally sat there for an hour and tried to figure it out..

I know what you mean, but Lost Highway was even more inviting than Muholland Drive in terms of feeling you might be able to figure it out, but can’t. M.D. just went too far, so one just gave up – or at least I realized that this was Lynch’s game. I knew there was no answer. It had excellent eye candy though, incredible opposite casting, proved the beginning of the wonderful Naomi Watts.

(man.. I really need to watch a Kurasowa movie)

No, if you don't mind me saying, you need to watch like ten Kurosowa movies. No one movie will give you the sense of his mastery – nothing made my top 10 list. It is the incredible depth and variety of his powers. No director even comes close to the diversity of films he made. He practically invented the cop buddy movie with Stray Dog (Lethal Weapon borrowed heavily here), and the kid-nap drama in High and Low. Empire Strikes Back was said to be taken from his epic Hidden Fortress (see C3PO and R2-D2 as human beings first), the western The Magnificent Seven from his Seven Samurai. His pairing with Mifune makes "Scorsese and de Niro" seem like kids playing with the super 8 in their backyard. The man filmed violence, pathos, romance, war, comedy, morality, murder, crime, perfecting genre form after genre form, inventing techniques and styles. Its almost ridiculous. But if you see only a film or two, you may just say to yourself afterwards, “what a well-made film” or “how interesting”, and little more. Anyways, that’s my rant on Kurosawa.





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Postby Dunamis » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:22 pm

Some,

The best Hugh Grant vehicle is The Englishman who went up a hill and came down a mountain

That's funny...Divine Brown said it was a rented BMW.





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p.s. actually Polanski's delicious satire Bitter Moon was pretty damn good, if only a bit twisted. Though I'm not sure a cruise ship would count as a Hugh Grant vehicle.
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Postby Dunamis » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:29 pm

Bessy,

Princess Bride


Awesome movie.

Westley: You're that smart?
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Westley: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.


is one of the all time written and delivered comedic lines ever. It still makes me laugh. To me the film is near in class with the wonderful Young Frankenstein and Life of Brian. :)




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Postby thirst4metal » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:49 pm

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Princess Bride truly is a work of comical genius.

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