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Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:54 pm

This is a thread about I.

Not about me, about "I".

I

As in: I make this thread about I.
Not the letter I, so much, as the principle "I".

What is this principle?
It is fundamentally different from "me".

Gim-me, gim-me.
No.

I will not give you.

I WILL
not give.

The "I" is transmuted (read: transitioned and muted) into "me" by an evil hand of god, who in all his wise nonexistence decided that the acting entity is identical to the passive entity.

"I" is the topic. Not "me".
This is not personal. It is about Action.

"I" = will to power.
"me" not so much.

So "me" doesn't exist.
Me no exist!
Thats right, me-me.
Only I exists.
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Re: I

Postby demoralized » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:09 pm

When something unpleasant is done to me I feel that me exists
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Re: I

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:27 pm

demoralized wrote:When something unpleasant is done to me I feel that me exists

Yes.
This is the gist of it - me is passive.
It exists - passive things do exist -
but my and Nietzsches philosophy focus on the idea that active existence is truly fundamentally different from passive existence.

I am trying to identify this difference in the simplest of terms.
The distinction between these pronouns is very significant.

The scene of pronouns is the actual science of a cultures identity.

Say in French, the passive and active are often combined in a spoke sentence. Like "Il le deteste, mais moi, je l'aime." - He hates it but me, I love it.
This occurs in English too, but in French it is very common....
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Re: I

Postby xhightension » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:40 pm

The active present "I" and the poor little "me" seem to be a split in the ego. Our identity embed these pronouns. Tyler Durden I calls Cornelius me a pussy; I dish it out to me.
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Re: I

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:43 pm

xhightension wrote:The active present "I" and the poor little "me" seem to be a split in the ego. Our identity embed these pronouns. Tyler Durden I calls Cornelius me a pussy; I dish it out to me.

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