Yes, that's why I said perceived freedom. It is assumed that the rich have more freedoms, but is that really so, and how would one even define freedom if one who has power and money spends most of his time and energy in pursuit and keep of his position and fortune, whether it's imposed internally or externally? There are many kinds of prisons, and power and money can be one of them. The need defines the shackles, but does a need ever go away? There is always some kind of need, so there is never true and complete freedom. Who is more free, a king or a peasant?Turd Ferguson wrote:I'm imprisoned by gravity if your worried about people being imprisoned by capitalism. It is less about restrictions of choice but rather a awareness of the ability to imagine more.
Capitalism bars me from having a Utopian flying castle? Essentially, pure fantasy and actual objects equally imprison in your outlook.
I am actually glad to live in a the world where woman has equal rights when it comes to employment and making her own living. In that regard, a woman has never been free to such a degree in the past. This is my opinion as a woman, but I wasn't speaking for all womenkind in my op.mannikin wrote:Oh panny, experience without responsibility and consequences seem to be lurking in your mind, when will you stop trying to reach this so called absolute ecstasy of pleasure?, oh panny, are you feeling a little discontent in the modern world, a world where the woman has to work too and pull her way, oh the irony..
Those that embrace Islam only trade one set of shackles for another, so they are already followers. The reason why Muslims have to pray five times a day is to keep their mind focused on God. Talk about mind control. It's ideological warfare, but I believe Islam will yield to consumerism because the two are not totally incompatible. You'll see, because a man innately desires to have his cake and eat it too.Oh panny, what is this shit you are talking about with prison inmates, suggesting to relax them into a submissive mindfulness which bear no aggression, are you feeling a little worried that those systems are naively allowing Islam to be taught to all those bad boys and it's catching like wild fire, where upon release they have no interest in adapting but rather their criminal mind now has a more sophisticated outlet where they seek to establish a patriarchy...
I suggest that you take a look into our evolutionary history, specifically into qualities which allowed us to even survive this long as species, the qualities that made us human.Oh panny, don't you know that the government doesn't give a shit about your survival ability, they use the lack of it against everybody, where everyone is born into a sheltering that hinders their survival development which would of taken place had they been exposed to a more natural wild environment..
But it's not about 5 minutes, or 10 minutes, or eternity. It's about a want that is deep-wired into a man himself.Oh panny, don't you know humans have been trying to free themselves since the very beginning..from existence...to the point they delude themselves into redefinition of existence and reality, isn't this capitalistic world a pathetic attempt of extending playtime, 5 more minutes mommy, 5 more minutes?.... which is built up promises upon promises, where there never seems to be pay of, where freedom is redefined as material possession and time is it's price...
Who are they?Oh panny, don't you know that slavery was never abolished, they just developed more sophisticated techniques of getting the people to enslave themselves and not realize it, and use them to expand the plantation around themselves, further embedding them..
Pandora wrote:I mean, is a modern person, stressed out by responsibilities and obligations of living in a modern capitalist society, really a free person? He may not be locked up behind physical gates, but his freedoms and actions (and his time) are certainly economically constrained. My guess is that most of the psychology that targets him would work on the similar principles that it would for a prison inmate.
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