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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Magnus Anderson » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:15 pm

Either way, if I ever decide to kill myself, I'd like it if others supported my will instead of trying to prove me wrong.

So what I wish onto myself I wish onto you.

I don't see what's wrong with that, Trixie. Your avatar is more wrong than that.
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:22 pm

Magnus Anderson wrote:Either way, if I ever decide to kill myself, I'd like it if others supported my will instead of trying to prove me wrong.

So what I wish onto myself I wish onto you.

I don't see what's wrong with that, Trixie. Your avatar is more wrong than that.

My avatar is not wrong, it is right. Makes me feel right.


But in my op I said I dont want to kill myself, remember.
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Magnus Anderson » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:25 pm

But you said it is for wimps. I wanted to correct you, because I thought, maybe if I corrected you, you would realize that suicide is not only for wimps, and that, with this knowledge in mind, you would revise your decision and perhaps decide to kill yourself after all.

Some people refrain from suicide merely because they think that would make them a wimp . . .
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby MagsJ » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:50 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:People are can be difficult, ruin our hopes dreams and plans. Give us nothing to work with sometimes.

Then a need to make one's own things to work with arise, and a new path to tread opens up.
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby surreptitious57 » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:53 pm

You are the most interesting member here Trixie so even if Magnus and Turd do not like you I and others do
So then if you are ever low come and chat with one of us and we shall hopefully make you feel better again
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:53 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:You are the most interesting member here Trixie so even if Magnus and Turd do not like you I and others do
So then if you are ever low come and chat with one of us and we shall hopefully make you feel better again


I think Turd hates me more than Magnus. Turd hates me more but is more selective about his hating.
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Magnus Anderson » Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:00 am

I don't hate Trixies.
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby The Golden Turd » Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:35 am

Nobody hates Trixie, that is the propaganda of the suicidal left. I dislike what he did to himself, and what he represents and therefore encourages others to dangerously follow suit. I actually have far more against someone like you S57 for mindlessly supporting it all it ugly fucked up ignorant liberalism.... Trixie can at least claim a psychological disorder, but for some crazy fucked up reason, you rush in to cheerlead it on.

I'm Catholic, we have some crackhead monastics within the Catholic church running about with the bright idea of providing new needles to homeless drug users, to keep disease spread low.... even saw a documentary where one helped the idiot inject the shit in his vein properly.

I'm less judgmental of the addict, than I am the liberal suicide in holding the needle and guiding it in for them. Truly Christ's mission to the poor was accomplished that day!

Trixie has a problem, I won't let your negative reinforcement continue. When someone intentional says "she" I will point out it is he. Ain't no where in the Bible it says sex changes are prohibited, these isn't Bible thumping, but it is philosophically sound common sense, in accordance with the old Stoic ideal of health and ethics, of the individual and of society, and I find it deeply disturbing some misfits are running loose on a self esteem crusade trying to reinforce the acts of a pure insanity. Do you run about insane asylums, congratulating pyromaniacs for trying to burn the cafeteria down? Kleptomaniacs for stealing, trying to shame cops for stopping the thefts? If someone is cutting themselves, and have the knife taken away, do you rush in with another knife and thrust it in their hands, and denounce the tyranny of others to pass judgment on the mentally ill?

It is essentially what your doing here. It us wrong to do if it us just you, or the whole world supporting your fucked up outlook. You've support the further degrading of a man, you refuse him passage back to reality and reason, all for a feel good puff on liberalism. That is truly fucking sick. You do not jump in on other people's psychological issues and cheer them on. You do not encourage them to continue on in their self afflictions. That is not compassion. It is like yelling to someone on the ledge to jump, you fully support them in their actions.

I find this yuppie strategy fucked up and irresponsible, dressed up deceptively in the guise of friendship and support, the most twisted form of sadism that exists in our age.

Only thing worst in this twisted insincerity would be a bunch of yuppies throwing a surprise party right before a execution for a prisoner, throwing a positive spin on the whole affair. Have a pinyata hanging from the scaffold, a little confetti when the floor is about to drop. Is this the sort of fucked up society we are slowly evolving into?
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby surreptitious57 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:11 am

Turd Ferguson wrote:
I actually have far more against someone like you S57 for mindlessly supporting it all it ugly fucked up ignorant liberalism
Trixie can at least claim a psychological disorder but for some crazy fucked up reason you rush in to cheerlead it on

All I do is accept Trixie for who she is and treat her with dignity and respect and give her moral support whenever
she is low. So there is absolutely nothing mindless or ugly or ignorant or fucked up or crazy about that whatsoever
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:10 pm

Magnus Anderson wrote:I don't hate Trixies.


Thankyou. :D I don't hate Magnuses either...
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:11 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:
Turd Ferguson wrote:
I actually have far more against someone like you S57 for mindlessly supporting it all it ugly fucked up ignorant liberalism
Trixie can at least claim a psychological disorder but for some crazy fucked up reason you rush in to cheerlead it on

All I do is accept Trixie for who she is and treat her with dignity and respect and give her moral support whenever
she is low. So there is absolutely nothing mindless or ugly or ignorant or fucked up or crazy about that whatsoever


Thankyou, that is sweet of you.

I would not even say Turd's are fucked up, Turd's are turds, turds are simply being their natural state, turds.
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:14 pm

sex changes are prohibited, these isn't Bible thumping, but it is philosophically sound common sense, in accordance with the old Stoic ideal of health and ethics


Weren't most of those pedophiles and promoters of homosexuality. So much for"stoic" lol. I haven't met a single tranny who is a pedophile lol.
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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:10 pm

Magnus Anderson

Either way, if I ever decide to kill myself, I'd like it if others supported my will instead of trying to prove me wrong.


Sorry, I couldn't do that for you. I would at least have to have a very long conversation with someone, in this case, you, who was on the brink of destroying their life.
I might support your intention to live and offer support for your will to live.
Otherwise, we are both just being lazy and callous.


w.businessinsider.com/many-suicides-are-based-on-an-impulsive-decision-2014-8


So what I wish onto myself I wish onto you.


But we're all different, our lives are all different, the possibilities which can occur in our future are different.
All things and people are not equal in this sense.
Your altruism can be looked on as a form of destruction or "misery needs company".
SAPERE AUDE!


If I thought that everything I did was determined by my circumstancse and my psychological condition, I would feel trapped.


What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

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Re: I'm bored of living.

Postby Prismatic567 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:36 am

Magnus Anderson wrote:That's a good one. We all know that you cannot feel. You are a psychopath. Psychopaths do not have feelings. Cannot have them.


Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/), also known as sociopathy (/soʊsiˈɒpəθi/), is traditionally defined as a personality disorder[1] characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, egotistical traits. Different conceptions of psychopathy have been used throughout history that are only partly overlapping and sometimes appear contradictory.[2]
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Empathy is the capacity to understand or feel what another person is experiencing from within the other being's frame of reference, i.e., the capacity to place oneself in another's position.[1]
There are many definitions for empathy which encompass a broad range of emotional states. Types of empathy include
    cognitive empathy,
    emotional empathy, and
    somatic empathy.[2]

In the development of human empathy, individual differences appear, ranging from no apparent empathic ability, or empathy which is harmful to self or others, to well-balanced empathy, including the ability to distinguish between self and other.[3] Various theories and aspects of empathy have been researched, including empathy within nonhuman animals.


I believe psychopaths do have various feelings [hunger, sexual, rage, envy, pain, pleasure, etc.] but they CANNOT feel what another person is experiencing from within the other being's frame of reference, i.e., the capacity to place oneself in another's position.

Apparently your responses in this case do not reflect empathy. It is not easy to empathize from within the other being's frame of reference. The ability empathize need sufficient higher developed neurons, i.e. mirror neurons.

A mirror neuron is a neuron that fires both when an animal acts and when the animal observes the same action performed by another.[1][2][3] Thus, the neuron "mirrors" the behavior of the other, as though the observer were itself acting. Such neurons have been directly observed in primate species.[4] Birds have been shown to have imitative resonance behaviors and neurological evidence suggests the presence of some form of mirroring system.[4][5] In humans, brain activity consistent with that of mirror neurons has been found in the premotor cortex, the supplementary motor area, the primary somatosensory cortex and the inferior parietal cortex.[6]
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