## Heart

The origins of the imperative, "know thyself", are lost in the sands of time, but the age-old examination of human consciousness continues here.

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### Re: Heart

I would tend to agree with putting things aside until we have a fresh perspective on things.
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### Re: Heart

Arcturus Descending wrote:One Liner

Arcturus, do you see yourself as a mother figure who knows what's best for others and then lecturers them about what's best

I'm a Mom and so it's difficult for me at times to take off "that hat".
Yes, I am a mother figure and a strong one at times...depending on the circumstances. Yes, there are times when I do know what is "better" for certain individuals - more so than they do  just as at times there are certain people who know what is better for me.
Do I come across as sometimes lecturing? Perhaps that comes with the territory. Perhaps it is also at times because something is important to me.

The "lecturer" may also be one of the "hats" I wear.

I am a mother too.
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### Re: Heart

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:One Liner

Arcturus, do you see yourself as a mother figure who knows what's best for others and then lecturers them about what's best

I'm a Mom and so it's difficult for me at times to take off "that hat".
Yes, I am a mother figure and a strong one at times...depending on the circumstances. Yes, there are times when I do know what is "better" for certain individuals - more so than they do  just as at times there are certain people who know what is better for me.
Do I come across as sometimes lecturing? Perhaps that comes with the territory. Perhaps it is also at times because something is important to me.

The "lecturer" may also be one of the "hats" I wear.

I am a mother too.

Really, are you Trixie? I didn't know that you had children OR is it that you just didn't complete your sentence, period or no period?
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake

“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience

“No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings.”
― William Blake

Arcturus Descending
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### Re: Heart

One Liner wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:One Liner is of the buddhist camp of "all 's good" nihilism.

When someone cuts his foot off, he just views it as part of the path to Enlightenment, and unusual, and interesting experience that God has blessed him with, as a form of intellectual entertainment.

He feels pain, but he doesn't not know why he feels pain, it cannot be explained by science, it is a spiritual thing. Since it is a spiritual thing, it cannot be said to scientifically exist, and so, by his praxis, pain and pleasure do not exist, and are therefore equal, since they cannot be fully explained. This is most likely the root of his praxis.

Lol, if it gives you a feeling of superiority, I can be whatever you want me to be.

and that might stem from your own inferiority complex.
But I know that you were kidding above.
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake

“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience

“No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings.”
― William Blake

Arcturus Descending
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### Re: Heart

Arcturus Descending wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:

I am a mother too.

Really, are you Trixie? I didn't know that you had children OR is it that you just didn't complete your sentence, period or no period?

Yes. I am your mother, Arc.
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### Re: Heart

Rest assured, I am not on my period.
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### Re: Heart

Arcturus Descending wrote:
One Liner wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:One Liner is of the buddhist camp of "all 's good" nihilism.

When someone cuts his foot off, he just views it as part of the path to Enlightenment, and unusual, and interesting experience that God has blessed him with, as a form of intellectual entertainment.

He feels pain, but he doesn't not know why he feels pain, it cannot be explained by science, it is a spiritual thing. Since it is a spiritual thing, it cannot be said to scientifically exist, and so, by his praxis, pain and pleasure do not exist, and are therefore equal, since they cannot be fully explained. This is most likely the root of his praxis.

Lol, if it gives you a feeling of superiority, I can be whatever you want me to be.

and that might stem from your own inferiority complex.
But I know that you were kidding above.

No, I am more than happy to be whatever UP1001 wants me to be.
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### Re: Heart

One Liner

No, I am more than happy to be whatever UP1001 wants me to be.

What you mean to say is that she has the liberty to think of you in whatever way she wants to?

Just how far are you willing to go with that?
Will you start to act "accordingly"?

Oh, by the way, I happened upon a post of Fuse's on 8/8 but none since then. You can always hook up with him in PM.
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake

“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience

“No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings.”
― William Blake

Arcturus Descending
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### Re: Heart

It means, I have no need to challange the thoughts people have of me as I don't need them to feel comfortable in my own skin.
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### Re: Heart

One Liner wrote:It means, I have no need to challange the thoughts people have of me as I don't need them to feel comfortable in my own skin.

What brought you to that little pearl of wisdom - which it is?
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake

“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience

“No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings.”
― William Blake

Arcturus Descending
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### Re: Heart

Arcturus Descending wrote:
One Liner wrote:It means, I have no need to challange the thoughts people have of me as I don't need them to feel comfortable in my own skin.

What brought you to that little pearl of wisdom - which it is?

Life experience and a lot of letting go (and pain) of the need for seeking approval from others.
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### Re: Heart

One Liner wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:
One Liner wrote:It means, I have no need to challange the thoughts people have of me as I don't need them to feel comfortable in my own skin.

What brought you to that little pearl of wisdom - which it is?

Life experience and a lot of letting go (and pain) of the need for seeking approval from others.

Okay, but then what might follow, which is only my perspective - not in order to seek approval from others nor to wallow in self pity, but would you ever take a second look at what someone is saying, IF something "rang a bell", reflect on it, in order to see if what they may be saying is "true" ? Isn't this a part of personal growth?
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake

“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience

“No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings.”
― William Blake

Arcturus Descending
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### Re: Heart

Naturally, but I take this feedback within the context of specific relationships and not from every Tom, Dick and Harry (who are free to draw whatever unchallenged conclusions they wish to draw).
One Liner
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### Re: Heart

Kool new Av, Arc.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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### Re: Heart

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:Hope you're on the mend Arty.

Arty who?
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake

“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience

“No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings.”
― William Blake

Arcturus Descending
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### Re: Heart

Artimas is my Arty.
I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.

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