Arcturus Descending wrote:Fixed Cross wrote:if not, why?
If so, what does that say about morality of happiness?
What are morals for except means to get happy?
You make a good point.
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Arcturus Descending wrote:Fixed Cross wrote:if not, why?
If so, what does that say about morality of happiness?
What are morals for except means to get happy?
Arcturus Descending wrote:Fixed Cross wrote:if not, why?
If so, what does that say about morality of happiness?
What are morals for except means to get happy?
I don't understand the relationship between morals and happiness, Jakob.
If morals are a means to happiness, and ONLY a means to happiness, can they actually then be called morals? I'm not sure. I'm just asking.
It just seems to me then that that so-called moral person is more or less just a hedonist, just as a mystic to me in a sense is also a hedonist. At the end of the day, is the hedonist a happy person or do they just want more more more more more.
As far as Caesar goes, he was probably happier than some of us and less happy than others.
Do you think that he was a happy camper when he was in Cleopatra's arms or might he have been just thinking about his next conquest. It may seem funny but who could know the mind of Caesar. lol
Fixed Cross wrote:Arcturus Descending wrote:Fixed Cross wrote:if not, why?
If so, what does that say about morality of happiness?
What are morals for except means to get happy?
I don't understand the relationship between morals and happiness, Jakob.
If morals are a means to happiness, and ONLY a means to happiness, can they actually then be called morals? I'm not sure. I'm just asking.
It just seems to me then that that so-called moral person is more or less just a hedonist, just as a mystic to me in a sense is also a hedonist. At the end of the day, is the hedonist a happy person or do they just want more more more more more.
You conflate physical pleasure and happiness, which is exactly what the hedonist does.
Happiness is broader.
What makes me very happy is to conquer and idea, to crack it open, to advance human thinking on it. That happiness shapes for a good part my morality.
If conquering planets is your thing, that is also a form of pleasure for you.
Xunzian wrote:Octavian seemed pretty content. Even the slanderous stuff seems to suggest someone who is basically "OK" with himself, so I'll call a win for him.
It's been decades (how strange it is that I've lived long enough to talk about not just one but decades plural) since I read Gaul and I can't separate my feelings for the text from my feelings for the time but Julius seemed very petty and unpleasant. It reads like a bad job interview. I knew he was a traitor but he was ~*~my friend~*~. Oh no, we're not "retreating" I'm just tricking them into thinking I'm retreating and this is genius because there happens to be a bunch of food we can loot while I'm running away. I'm going to throw a big old tantrum and berate my troops but they were so ^_^ INSPIRED ^_^ by my words.
I get that media, etc. have improved a lot since then. But he came off as a whiny try hard to me. Dude was not a happy guy, is what I am saying.
barbarianhorde wrote:Yes but his happiness was cruel and hard on him Methinx.
Harder than the pain of you is on you. Harharharhareth!!
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