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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:58 pm
by anand_droog
Fixed Cross wrote:Mental illness ... always a condition of society, or of family or of whatever type of irrational resistances to power a human environment has. Mental illness does not occur in the wild. Rather, it is a beings escape into the wild from the insane conditions of humanity.



Agreed, domestication is the problem...

Though you seem to be ascribing more weight to "power" than is warranted.

To me the only valid power is the power to defend (by offense, if required) the efficiently-resource-exploiting people of logic against the vulgar attacks opportunistically mounted by the inefficiently-resource-exploiting people of absurdity.

The latter are rightly called "barbarians" or "peasants" and hated by the evolved thinkers of in fact, all lands. I myself come from India though I admit that here, traditionally at least if not so much today, barbarians often had their way.

Things are usually better here than in France or Italy, however... thinkers are not troubled.

PS: Geographically, the general extent of thinkers' hardship, which characterizes overly barbarian cultures, is roughly proportional to the contours of this graph:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Worl ... s-laws.png

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:02 pm
by James S Saint
anand_droog wrote:To me the only valid power is the power to defend (by offense, if required) the efficiently-resource-exploiting people of logic against the vulgar attacks opportunistically mounted by the inefficiently-resource-exploiting people of absurdity.
:lol:

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:21 pm
by Ierrellus
I never knew mental illness could be so noble as to be an antidote for social ills. :o :D

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:25 pm
by Meno_
Excepting for those bereft of any other way to try to manipulate the bad cards dealt them. Or if that doesent work, convergence to Munchausen.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:42 pm
by MagsJ
Fixed Cross wrote:MagsJ is certainly an architect in the sense of moderation - she knows how things fall into place.

Architecture isn't as simple as you think it is, James - my point all along.

I am firm but fair. Have you seen the updated forum warning system? a system that works for everyone :D

James was pulling 'a Turd' on me.. I nearly fell for it, but quickly knew that that rhetoric was not James's style one bit.. even though he played it straight till the end. :P I wonder what you're poker face looks like James? :-k

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:13 am
by anand_droog
Ierrellus wrote:I never knew mental illness could be so noble as to be an antidote for social ills. :o :D


Well, it will be, in this case, the atypical type of "illness" (the opposite typical would be, depression, dementia progression etc. i.e. neuropyrosis)

Probably a legitimate behavioral style pathologized and branded an "illness" by the mainstream illogicians (who are so given to fulsomely spinning academicistic prose to "prove" themselves wise, e.g.: the idea that "gray matter" equals intelligence, whereas the fact is that increased gray matter, though indeed it may lead to situations where one can "win" over others who had by mistake assumed the former their friend, -- merely corresponds to increased risk of neuropyrosis*.

* http://www.djedefsauron.net/index.php?o ... Itemid=125

Thus we have defined in this post a typical form of mental illness, and a pseudo-illness, which is actually a raw nonlinear thinking intelligence corresponding to talent of logical articulation & high IQ (the traditional form of IQ, not the MENSA meta-verbal "speed test" style pseudo-IQ propagated by fool quack misassociations like the DSM5)... often misunderstood and publicly underplayed by the elites, but the best girls love it ))

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:37 pm
by Ierrellus
According to my counselor, some major executives are using mild doses of "magic mushroom" and "ecstasy" to enhance their work performances.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:55 pm
by anand_droog
Ierrellus wrote:According to my counselor, some major executives are using mild doses of "magic mushroom" and "ecstasy" to enhance their work performances.


Yeah, people are so ignorant.
The Nazis used ecstasy or meth or something.
They should've just used cannabis, they would never have crossed into Russia like fools.
The nazis got doomed when hitler's psycho-dominatrix (theodore morrell) ordered the wunderwaffe research money to be spent on researching inflatable sex dolls (http://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/hitl ... s_n_896207).
Stalingrad, 1943...
unfortunately, the luftwaffe airdrops that managed to reach the besieged city had more sex dolls than ammunition*. Regardless, the nazis were only inflating their sex-dolls, that's when the Soviet heavy tanks and shock infantry crashed through the rear.


* "Not only did the Luftwaffe not deliver anywhere near the amount needed, but they delivered some ludicrously wrong supplies, including cellophane grenade covers, fish food, ground pepper, and a massive condom shipment".

http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/10/04/sta ... ndom-drop/

Wearing condoms for protection while taking turns to fuck a sex doll -- now that's mental dysfunction! Men who give their love to goats or cows are also clearly mad. I suspect it was a tradition for some (peasants) in the past.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:07 pm
by Ierrellus
anand_droog wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:According to my counselor, some major executives are using mild doses of "magic mushroom" and "ecstasy" to enhance their work performances.


Yeah, people are so ignorant.
The Nazis used ecstasy or meth or something.
They should've just used cannabis, they would never have crossed into Russia like fools.
The nazis got doomed when hitler's psycho-dominatrix (theodore morrell) ordered the wunderwaffe research money to be spent on researching inflatable sex dolls (http://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/hitl ... s_n_896207).
Stalingrad, 1943...
unfortunately, the luftwaffe airdrops that managed to reach the besieged city had more sex dolls than ammunition*. Regardless, the nazis were only inflating their sex-dolls, that's when the Soviet heavy tanks and shock infantry crashed through the rear.




* "Not only did the Luftwaffe not deliver anywhere near the amount needed, but they delivered some ludicrously wrong supplies, including cellophane grenade covers, fish food, ground pepper, and a massive condom shipment".

http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/10/04/sta ... ndom-drop/

Wearing condoms for protection while taking turns to fuck a sex doll -- now that's mental dysfunction! Men who give their love to goats or cows are also clearly mad. I suspect it was a tradition for some (peasants) in the past.

I don't see how this abnormal behavior ties in with the search for performance enhancing drugs by executives.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:12 pm
by Ierrellus
For those who may have wondered what happened to J.--
She is in a nursing home. She still suffers from schizophrenia, but is well taken care of. I don't get to see her, but I hear she is happy. Her meds work when she takes them on a regular basis.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:09 pm
by Fixed Cross
anand_droog wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:According to my counselor, some major executives are using mild doses of "magic mushroom" and "ecstasy" to enhance their work performances.


Yeah, people are so ignorant.
The Nazis used ecstasy or meth or something.
They should've just used cannabis, they would never have crossed into Russia like fools.
The nazis got doomed when hitler's psycho-dominatrix (theodore morrell) ordered the wunderwaffe research money to be spent on researching inflatable sex dolls (http://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/hitl ... s_n_896207).
Stalingrad, 1943...
unfortunately, the luftwaffe airdrops that managed to reach the besieged city had more sex dolls than ammunition*. Regardless, the nazis were only inflating their sex-dolls, that's when the Soviet heavy tanks and shock infantry crashed through the rear.


* "Not only did the Luftwaffe not deliver anywhere near the amount needed, but they delivered some ludicrously wrong supplies, including cellophane grenade covers, fish food, ground pepper, and a massive condom shipment".

http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/10/04/sta ... ndom-drop/

Wearing condoms for protection while taking turns to fuck a sex doll -- now that's mental dysfunction! Men who give their love to goats or cows are also clearly mad. I suspect it was a tradition for some (peasants) in the past.

Haha what???
This is great material. No way to verify it, but it kind of does fit with the general screwed mental and emotional makeup of nazis.

Yes the nazis and Hitler used a lot of amphetamines. I think many armies do, though. But Hitler was apparently always on several drugs along with his perpetual stream of coffee and cake with whipped cream.

It does make sense to assume they invaded Russia as a side affect of a bad choice in drugs. It could also be seen as "suicide by cop" - Hitler and his "men" hated themselves so much that they just sought out an enemy that could pulverize them.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:37 am
by anand_droog
Hey this, my latest video, to help get some perspective:

https://youtu.be/SymrB2xVP6I

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:34 pm
by Ierrellus
According to Johan Hari in "Lost Connections"(2018), renewed studies of how psychedelics affect the "mentally ill" have yielded startling results. In experiments in which the participants were given psilocybin, 80 % of the smokers were able to quit smoking.
The theory is that psychedelics put one in a mind-state close to that observed when one meditates--a loss of ego and a gain of being part of a larger whole of all that exists.
In this work Hari, with the aid of scientific studies and personal experience, attempts to refute the notion that depression and anxiety are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:57 pm
by anand_droog
2 posts back I posted a link which was fated to die. This is the new & improved video:


https://youtu.be/OdhBRSF6fIE

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:56 pm
by Ierrellus
My friend J., who suffered from schizophrenia, died this weekend. She was only 64.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:20 pm
by WendyDarling
My condolences, Ier.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:30 pm
by Chakra Superstar
Ierrellus wrote:My friend J., who suffered from schizophrenia, died this weekend. She was only 64.

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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:24 pm
by Ierrellus
Thanks Wendy and Chakra. Love is forever.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:28 pm
by Chakra Superstar
The first thing that pops into my head when I think of mental illness is this:

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" - Jiddu Krishnamurti
.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:38 pm
by Meno_
Chakra Superstar wrote:The first thing that pops into my head when I think of mental illness is this:

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" - Jiddu Krishnamurti
.


True certain extent , however , humane treatments have been on an upswing, whereby bedlams are no longer necessary except in certain extreme cases to forcefully contain patients.

The blame for mental illness on society has only limited use,and under limited circumstances.

Its difficult to believe nowadays, that witchcraft, demonic possession, electro and insulin shock , psycho surgeries , were other notions/uses were employed just a few years ago.

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:53 pm
by MagsJ
Chakra Superstar wrote:The first thing that pops into my head when I think of mental illness is this:

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" - Jiddu Krishnamurti
.

=D>

Society creates hermits and the disheartened.. there is no doubt about that! such demographics as they evolve to sts (save their souls).

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:56 pm
by Meno_
MagsJ wrote:
Chakra Superstar wrote:The first thing that pops into my head when I think of mental illness is this:

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" - Jiddu Krishnamurti
.

=D>

Society creates hermits and the disheartened.. there is no doubt about that! such demographics as they evolve to sts (save their souls).




Mental illness is an irony!

The difference between being shut out and shut in revolves on a fragile whip ,perhaps even as on a whim, starting with
self castigation, then cast off as a broken little thing

This irony is borne of an anti compassive insulated measure
the onslaught of s new modern reality: that of a distinct divorce of the age of the romantic, from that of childlike innocence.

All wrapped up in a neat bundle of brutish malfeasance, pray of those of disonhrartened privilege, while those less fortunate struggle with their own demons, accepting them in silent veneration: realizing that they are but friends of the opposite sort.

They, who never have the chance to get out, where to, privilege runs amok.

Stuck in the unending ghettos of their mind, indelicately , as Emily Dickinson in her garden, literally, to escape those confines.

What? Sentimental nonsense, you say? Or the advent of the new exterminating angel

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:18 am
by anand_droog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlfokOQ ... be&t=7m50s

You have to watch this^ if you want to understand my brain science video*


* I'd posted a link about nonlinear thinking vs. linear thinking and the etiology/origins of all mental health disorders.
That link was:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdhBRSF ... e=youtu.be

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 9:32 pm
by MagsJ
Meno_ wrote:Mental illness is an irony!

The difference between being shut out and shut in revolves on a fragile whip ,perhaps even as on a whim, starting with
self castigation, then cast off as a broken little thing

This irony is borne of an anti compassive insulated measure
the onslaught of s new modern reality: that of a distinct divorce of the age of the romantic, from that of childlike innocence.

All wrapped up in a neat bundle of brutish malfeasance, pray of those of disonhrartened privilege, while those less fortunate struggle with their own demons, accepting them in silent veneration: realizing that they are but friends of the opposite sort.

They, who never have the chance to get out, where to, privilege runs amok.

Stuck in the unending ghettos of their mind, indelicately , as Emily Dickinson in her garden, literally, to escape those confines.

What? Sentimental nonsense, you say? Or the advent of the new exterminating angel

I was looking at the creation of the circumstances that might spawn the environment for many mental health conditions to arise in, but I did find your reply very creative..

Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 9:42 pm
by Meno_
That double entendre literally is looking for a rational way out of the quandry, of all the unfortumates', whose insight may not reach that level of inquiry, postulating the theory that insight is at least half way to sanity.

The creativity in terms of trying to figure (spawn)) out those elements giving rise to creating (your terms) non adaptive environments , tend to be successfully understood in terms of that creativity.

That is what appears here by the double entendre.

The other half is where the damaged emotions can ever arise from the depth where things can ever go back to stability.