Reductions toward absurdity are veiled as ironic. But still they operate with methodical logic .in fact its a question of degree of difference that determines intended usage. Perhaps there is a boundary between them that signifies the level of conscious versus unintended meaning between the two, the amazing thing that they both are credible states of mind.
I’ll take that as a maybe. 
Lets say we’re both prisoners and would like to narrow down meaning that serves our purposes. Could I say, will You settle for an intended meaning that.contains both, somewhat ironic, yet rather absurd to say? Could that lead to some discussion as to an objective and accepted mind set?
Let’s say in reference to adding a third partner who would add more clarity.
Lets say the guy would insist on equal measures of both. Would the new idea become more typical of a sustainable position at a later time, if they were to be thus interpreted? I don’t know but we may think of some such intermediate term. At this time I don’t think if there is one.
How about this way.
‘Situational Irony Definition If such an expected outcome fails and instead another contrary outcome occurs, the absurdity is termed situational irony. Such a form of irony is the result a discrepancy in perspective, such that what is known and expected at one moment differs with what is known later on.’
This analysis does seem to imply a hybrid.
Discrepancy of irony , in perspective, meaning from one moment to another. Now is this not what a regression is all about? Where certain jumps, leaving out noticeable connective elements present a dilemma between the criminals, and their trying to create an objective, from one moment to the next, an objective closely associated with an acceptable object to which lets say we both could relate to, a trancendentaly object from which we could jump over the disconnected gaps. If there is no effort to gloss over them , by ignoring them and setting up a continuum in spite of those missing variables, then the implication is, that we can never understand how each of us, or rather the prisoners merely presuppose and feign ‘understanding’ the continuous logical sequence.
Then it can be said that objectivity can not be formed, and parts of it, elements of it, are missing, but we deny the missing elements and project the emidentical or mutual and recipriticality that makes mutual understanding possible.
This is where we presume to identify on lower more general, but ‘thinner’ levels of symbolism.
That could as well be subliminally glossed over, by denying that missing train of thought, and inherently suggesting that the other has some of those missing elements in order and by virtue of finding them without merit, or worse, something offensive and incomplete. This incompleteness is denied from the Dasaine, and that in completeness is experienced as a negative part of the other.
So we construct defective objectivity under a transcendental umbrella, but after to disagree for the sake of a faux objectivity.
We agree that a simulation is better then nothing at all. We have to agree to do this, for we are in a changing perspective of various ’ no exits’ and that is something we have to endure systemically.
You may not wish to go on with such an arrangement, but then You are aware of the perilous nature of prison politics.
You’re not participating is not an option in closely related institutional part I option, and can lead to further social regression that has been pointed to by Levi Strauss and some existential analysts.
The freedom to leave, combined with personal autonomy, versus the opposite, that of being constrained by the increasingly cultish restraint exercises as the symbolic relationship things out toward one dimensionality, presents at times almost magical bindings associated with a loss of autonomy and freedom to determine levels of association and if dissassociation.
Thus loss of autonomy and freedom create quasi magical situations , appears trivialized, and almost as almost absurd.
Ok fair enough.
But it’s getting more and more absurd.
Got to hang for they’re getting closer. The mob is so to arrive. Governor Newsome has called in the National guard.
Don’t have a piece.
The piece I has a 22 was stolen while giving a ride. It was in the glove compartment. And he tore it open and grabbed it then ran, after a minute I held at on him.
So philosophy is the real deal. Down to earth and all. ILP! And it ain’t easy to break it up the ego that left outside the door.
And that is exactly what goes on to happen, if it is not done voluntarily, into bits and pieces of swiftly passing metaphor images, then she will never come back.
You see Sharia law took her and in spite I pray to Mohammed for him for he’s got the little time.
Why not come here to excellent US and do as the Romans did, and acckimatize to here laws.
Why even the Irish and Italian mobs in New York did it. The did it. But Sharia?
Beriut was a nice place before that dentist invaded it.
The string arm of the law kneeling on an security guard/ porn star.
Don’t get it. And every body gets so riled up.
No anarchy and the bloodshed to follow, the pen moves more then mere emotion, , passive resistance moves more.
Try understanding , the power behind the facade - best left as a potentially imminent possibility.
Tripitch #1
The very bottom line of most resistance , hold it,
A tight elastic steel
and it can’t snap
The length of it, slightly changed here
But at the levels Satan plays
It becomes inestimable
Duration
and as long and measuring its thinned out elasticity
through and through times’
Passages
The existencial loss of ideal, connect to the pleasure , in it’s self, works only through the etherialization into the micro- elements, that travel ever for through.
Limits then recede miniatures become haunted,
and dropped into the tiniest parts,
Once there You,
anew , hold, it
takes root,
a new baby cries, tries again gasping
and remembers, little
little oh,
My joy, my heart,
hold on .
Tripitch #2
“Momma why do whites hate blacks”?
Cause sugar, when momma came here , paid for the price of blood diamonds, 'childe, momma was in grandma’s belly.
Most die on ships coming over from africa, and then resold on open market, for breed’n.
Now once free, then told momma to go back home, but sugar there ain’t no home for momma to go back to , see, cause momma don’t speak but english, and no folks longing for momma to see there no ways now how.
and now sweet, white folks hate momma because black folks don’t matter no mo, don’t fit nowhere, used merchandise only drinkin’ and us’in now, and u chil’ you ain’t none better then momma. . but maybe better lookin.
Sweetums hold on to momma, i am the only thing you’ all ever get to have beside u.
You ain’t none too good like momma., but ya still young.
“But momma, Oprah and that Kamala lady running with biden them matter…”
Child, them are props, used for them nearsighted , and oversold.
Goodnight momma, good night child’.
Tripitch .#3
Mist atomizers since the i is hiding
In the eye
What u need to abide in
The u and the illusive
me
If can’t u go there u must
then u can’t overcome the illusion
from a 2 z
And from alpha 2 omega
( so long, the short of it, the pleasure replaced not displaced or displeased.)
Hello me/you, how do you do!?!
Picasso tripitch accompany-'d
Then again, heading to cross, of and by cross, in spite of double. ( knowing the power and effects of atomizers)
CONVERGANCE
When first dreamt of M Polanyi, everyone had doubts, expressly ambig.
Course that was years ago, and now it came full circle.
Yesterday it was the Feast of Saint Monica, the mother of St. Augustine.
He and his mom immigrated from Ostia in Italy to Africa, where he connected through Saint. to a Gnosticism . in a loose stretch of the meaning of the term.
Now comes the kicker, Polanyi revered Augustine, and this phenomenal assymetry is astounding, raising the elements of faith hyperbolically.
Sure more to come.
s reticent I am about this ‘revelation’ in conventional terms , has been successfully been overcome by a yet undefined urge.
Philosophy vs. Psychology?
A lot of thought goes into the pre- eminence of psychological solutions bearing down unto it’s philosophical underpinnings
Crucial ideas : such as posed by Plato, Descartes, Hegel, Nietzsche, prescribe what is to come to bear fruit in psychology.
Strains of though do actually reflect each other and transact the movement and momentum that crisscross a meaningful continuity.
To slowly exclude a meaningful interchange can only assign false notions predicated on undergeneralized hypotheticals.
The disassociated ego covered by karmic calculation is the way to go from the abyss toward the light.
As fragile the dynamic in this process can build an increasingly patently interrelated face of strength of the will to overcome it’s self.
Napoleon said, that its harder to conquer the self than it is the battle.
The subject to object relationship could be dessurected by a vintage ILP forum:
‘Objectivity, Obfuscation, and Mysticism.’
I could not find think but will keep on looking, the point made is general so as to delate a hidden premis- behind N’'s Will to Power, (power to will) , so as to imply, and make implicitly relate that hiddenness with the emerging hypocrisy between the N’s transcendent object, with Marx’s social realism.
That is why we are socially reaching confusion between the subjective and objective notions that have accrued in the name of social
realism.
Personally, such latent reality plays havoc within the analogous tie in between social and personal psychology, and that is what exerborates the psychic states( that the above article brings up: )
and particularly exemplified by long standing metaphors revolving around alienation, post impressionistic narratives of cut up meanings .
That being said, there should not be an effort to demonized parties abject to these kinds of real exclusionary forces, the effects ard always contradictory to unify society.
It is unfortunate to derail mysticism as it usually is caught between social and psychological relatives that try to zero in on object relations.
And sadly, too many of 'us" are overtly aware of this, even as our inclusion of this hidden susceptible trait, becomes perceived.
But here is, where the will, can rescue us , as our power to effect our will , diminishes. This is the crux of the hardest tensions, resonating within
today’s life.
“But here is, where the will, can rescue us , as our power to effect our will , diminishes. This is the crux of the hardest tensions, resonating within
today’s life.”*
*from as of yet undetermined source
“But here is, where the will, can rescue us , as our power to effect our will , diminishes. This is the crux of the hardest tensions, resonating within
today’s life.”*
*from as of yet undetermined source
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The idea is, that the overt appearance of a herd mentality represses the strongest will which fuels contradictory but less pitically viable will-thereby reducing it’s power to effect.
This is the problem with the will to power, it is inversely related to fictional-popular political opinion.
The will to resist is repressed into the general weakness of conflated ideas.
This was the idea mostly lost on the followers of Trumpism .
Sad but true for all the archytipical victims that were put through inhuman treatment, since age immemorial.
Such a-political expediancy is not meant to invoke affectations or reminiscence, but clearly down to earth tit for tat.
The more personal is a shift toward objective criteria , the lesser , neare e to subjective overgeneralization. Not that such may not be mediated, through neo-religious allegory such as between a father and a son, and non contemperously, as archytipically described.
One virtue to the disaffected: you never really get to know how deeply a philosopher can retain an irony, when it gets to the point that bitter lemons and sour grapes have caused them to give up any hope, where they have entered that forbidden place, where ego no longer exists. That must be a description of their version of hell.
On the other hand, those that see through the despised shell which is their last hope and final abode, can see that they really don’t understand the vacancy which goes unfilled in that place, and the last thing they loose is that luminous afterglow, which has been a prefab structural design. Love , pity, piety and the hopeful beginning of each smiling child’s face, tells it all.
Heaven or hell is really a free choice at every moment of our short life.
Lest forgotten.