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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:04 pm

MagsJ wrote:Lieing tramp!


Really, interesting that ANYONE can look it up.

You went from troll moderator to straight up troll.

Right now, you remind me of that weird math guy who made a quote of me saying something I never said so he could reply to me and win his argument .

Not to hard to do! You just say “quote” ecmandu “/quote” and say whatever the fuck you want.

He was BANNED for this! Permabanned.

You’re treading those waters MagsJ
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:06 pm

He doesn’t deny being THAT pedophle though? but then again, you never did.

I see that that ^^^ word, has been stricken from the dictionary though, like an ancient disease.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:10 pm

MagsJ wrote:Lieing tramp!

You don’t deny being THAT pedophle though?

I see that that ^^^ word, has been stricken from the dictionary though, like an ancient disease.


MagsJ, I don’t have sex when there is a universe with zero sum realities, which may very well mean that I never have sex. Pedophile? That would fucking suck for someone to be a pedophile, for them and the children. Fortunately I don’t have that affliction.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:13 pm

Lies lead to the truth.

My first few posts here mentioned custodianship and guardianship way before anyone else.. because I was one, fool.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:19 pm

MagsJ wrote:Lies lead to the truth.

My first few posts here mentioned custodianship and guardianship way before anyone else.. because I was one, fool.


Alright, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and re-read the thread.

Obviously if that’s true, the ILP search engine is malfunctioning.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:22 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
MagsJ wrote:Lies lead to the truth.

My first few posts here mentioned custodianship and guardianship way before anyone else.. because I was one, fool.


Alright, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and re-read the thread.

Obviously if that’s true, the ILP search engine is malfunctioning.


Correct, you used the word guardian first (not guardianship)

You also made the joke (before me) that children if anything, own their parents, I used the pet analogy but it’s the same concept.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:27 pm

Lol.. this guy is digging though.. I said custodian and guardian and much more besides, so why man is pausing on the ‘ship’ part? like it’s a pivotal point to his entire argument?
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:29 pm

Ecmandu wrote:Alright, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Fuck him!

Da fuck he think he is!
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:33 pm

MagsJ wrote:Lol.. this guy is digging though.. I said custodian and guardian and much more besides, so why man is pausing on the ‘ship’ part? like it’s a pivotal point to his entire argument?


MagsJ. We used terms like this independently of each other. I’m not trying to dig here.

You never used the word custodian in this thread, I just looked it up.

Custodian is actually a better legal word than guardian.

Again, I’m not digging here...

When you are in police custody it is not their job to die to keep you from going to prison (guardian) it is their job to make sure your rights are respected.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:37 pm

I will leave this thread to the pedophile, and perhaps the whole forum.. perhaps.. we shall see, but glad he’s not denying being one.

Guy wants to get bogged down in ‘he said she said’ semantics with me..
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:40 pm

MagsJ wrote:I will leave this thread to the pedophile(s), and perhaps the whole forum.. perhaps.. we shall see, but glad he’s not denying being one.


Are you trying to get banned MagsJ ?

I’m not a pedophile, I stated as much. Even if I was one, who gives a fuck, because I don’t have sex, nor am I particularly interested in seeing nude women in a zero sum world.

I’m not reporting you yet. If you keep this up. I will report you.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:46 pm

Does anyone think that man’s stroking his wand while he’s mentioning my name, coz I do. Ew..

Don’t give a fuck if I’m reported and banned.. is this guy for real? what a fucking child!
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:48 pm

MagsJ wrote:Does anyone think that man’s stroking his wand while he’s mentioning my name, coz I do. Ew.. I feel sick.

I’m outta here..


Was your account hacked? I’m going to ask Carleas if your account was hacked.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:53 pm

Man’s definitely stroking his wand, and it’s not a’la Harry Potter stylee.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:04 pm

MagsJ wrote:Man’s definitely stroking his wand, and it’s not a’la Harry Potter stylee.

Keeps mentioning my name too, again.. I feel sick.


You’re the one who does and has always started shit with me since you were removed as a moderator.

You’ve done it so many fucking times (the instigator) that I was like “fuck it, I’ll just start calling her by her name again”
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:17 pm

What a joke..
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:18 pm

MagsJ wrote:Man’s definitely stroking his wand, and it’s not a’la Harry Potter stylee.

Keeps mentioning my name too, again.. I feel sick.


MagsJ, and by the way... I’m sure you masterbate more than I do. Which isn’t wrong. It’s been proven that masturbation not only helps against certain serious genital diseases (like prostate cancer) but it also stops you from having “wet dreams”

I can assure you, I’m not perving out on women.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:25 pm

MagsJ wrote:Lieing fucking tramp!


Lie is a very serious word to use. Usually it’s just a confusion.

Carleas told me never to respond to you in a post.

What do you do? You call me a pedophile.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:11 am

A more interesting issue, where the words are not taken so literally, is around the idea of wage-slaves. To what extent does current work practices, given the way the economy is played with and current labor law, have similarities to slavery?

Here we don't have to take the metaphor literally, nor do we we have to dig in around it, but it allows us to explore one complicated phenomenon in relation to another.

When the ecomomy is poor and unemployment high, employers can demand all sorts of things, including things that one might consider private and certainly during those hours one is working for them. The 'slave' aspect gets heightened to near literalness. Sure, you can quit, but perhaps end up homeless with your kids.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:13 pm

Apologies for derailing your thread Urwrong.. back to the topic.

I see empathy as one person attempting to lay claim to another, emotionally.. this is necessary between parent and child, but no independent person cares for it.. not in the extreme at least, and certainly not towards others’ children.

I want my doctor to be empathetic, just enough to send me to the right clinics and consultations.. I want my family and friends to be empathetic, just enough so that we get on and respect each other’s wishes and boundaries.. I want society to be empathetic, just enough to enable a stable and thriving societal structure. I also think that’s what most want.
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Re: Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:15 pm

When it comes to property be it yourself, another or things... I’ll just use a John Lennon line from the song imagine “imagine no possessions, I wonder if you can, nothing to kill or die for”

It sounds good on the surface, but if I keep taking a persons food or they keep taking mine because there are no possessions’, one of us will certainly die.

I don’t take people’s stuff because I’m not interested in hurting them. I’d hope they felt the same about me.

Ask yourself this. If you believe in no possessions for yourself, but you respect it in others, then why not respect it in yourself as well?

If you don’t respect it in others, then why respect it in yourself at all?

Karpel mentioned wage slaves. Or even student loan slaves. The average American has one dollar of discretionary income per day. Yet you wonder why the national debt is something like 20 trillion now. We’re going into debt for most of us, just to barely keep our lives afloat, and even the super-rich are using corporate welfare, they get a huge chunk of our taxpayer money. People think socialism is stupid. If you think socialism is stupid then stop defending the ultra rich!
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