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Will we succeed together as a sexually unified race in a technologically advanced world?

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Yes
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Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

Postby encode_decode » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:53 am

    The following I pulled off of http://www.forbes.com

    • Women are Opportunity Experts
    • Women are Networking Professionals
    • Women Seek to be Relationship Specialists
    • Women are Natural Givers
    On the topic of Natural Givers: "Women seek to give to others but also to their communities. Why do you think most non-profits are run by women? Women enjoy living their lives through a cause that serves the advancement and acceleration of societal needs. This is why in the workplace women are great at inspiring and lifting those around them. This is why most women leaders are such excellent long-term strategic thinkers. They are less inclined to rally behind a short-term strategy if a more sustainable approach can be executed."

    www.forbes.com wrote:Additionally, women are socially conscious leaders that serve to cultivate innovation and initiative for both themselves and others. No wonder the fastest growing sector of small business owners in America are women.


    So that is three sources with some overlap(between this post and the last post that I have made)
    - perhaps the overlap are the greatest strengths that women possess.
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      Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

      Postby WendyDarling » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:05 am

      Nice lists encode_decode. I concur.

      I noticed the more physical aptitude side is missing which is what I believe women are exploring currently. This is why they push for physical equality in jobs even though its a far fetched achievement. Women truly cannot comprehend what their physical limits are for they have never taken so many challenges upon themselves. All that time boys played outside, played rough, were challenging one another physically, women didn't experience much if any of that.

      Attention to detail is so true especially in my Mom-My Sister recently thanked my Mom for being such a stickler for details, it's allowed her to revise the focus of her work down to more specificity which is driving her co-workers crazy, but they are pressing for more precise/accurate results from multiple angles. My Sister works for a robotics company in Silicon Valley where details matter.
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      Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

      Postby Serendipper » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:51 am

      WendyDarling wrote:Attention to detail is so true especially in my Mom-My Sister recently thanked my Mom for being such a stickler for details, it's allowed her to revise the focus of her work down to more specificity which is driving her co-workers crazy, but they are pressing for more precise/accurate results from multiple angles. My Sister works for a robotics company in Silicon Valley where details matter.

      Dad used to manage an electronics manufacturing plant where he said never once did a woman apply for a job to run a machine and never once did a man apply for a clean room / circuit assembly job. Women always did the small, detailed work while men operated the dirty machines.

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      Of course, there was a pay difference, but it wasn't enough to compel women to apply.
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      Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

      Postby Meno_ » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:41 pm

      encode_decode wrote:
      Pandora wrote:Just curious, how do you guys feel about getting a womb transplant and gestating/birthing your own baby?

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconvers ... tate-80581

      Very interesting idea Pandora and highlights how far we have come technologically. I think the idea of womb transplants are a great idea especially for women who can not conceive by their own means. As for me however - being heterosexual I have never considered the idea for myself. I have three children already and I love them very much. One of my children identifies as being transgender, another as being bisexual and the other as heterosexual. So my children are a mix of ... well whatever term you want to apply to it.

      From a young age I wanted children and was so happy when I was able to help conceive them.

      The want for children for me was very great - would I want a womb transplant so that I could conceive them myself? I would have to say no. My philosophy on this whole thing is a bit mixed - but then it seems to me that the world is a mixed up place. I do not think we have come far enough to work out whether two men having a baby together is right or wrong - I think the debate will rage on for a while to come - the same goes for two women. First we need to work out whether mixing our species up the way we are attempting to do right now is the right thing to do.

      Meddling with the causality of nature could very well be our undoing - I just do not think we know enough yet to say.




      We have been meddling with nature quote a while now, and we are further along in technology not to be able to put us there , so the answers are out there, already, from the state we are in. Its observable.

      The big issues regarding gays in the military, orgAn transplants, beneficial and humane euthanasia, use of narcotics for leisure and illness, to name a few, habe already been pretty much disposed as morally workable.

      In my mind the answer is yes.
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      Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

      Postby WendyDarling » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:50 pm

      #-o
      I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

      I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

      Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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      Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

      Postby encode_decode » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:13 pm

      Meno_ wrote:We have been meddling with nature quote a while now, and we are further along in technology not to be able to put us there , so the answers are out there, already, from the state we are in. Its observable.

      The big issues regarding gays in the military, orgAn transplants, beneficial and humane euthanasia, use of narcotics for leisure and illness, to name a few, habe already been pretty much disposed as morally workable.

      In my mind the answer is yes.

      Yes to what?
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        Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

        Postby encode_decode » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:43 am

          I found this quote while reflecting on a couple of posts in this thread:

          Susan B. Anthony wrote:The day will come when men will recognize woman as his peer, not only at the fireside, but in councils of the nation. Then, and not until then, will there be the perfect comradeship, the ideal union between the sexes that shall result in the highest development of the race.

          It is more or less saying what I am trying to convey, without the technology component.
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            Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

            Postby Meno_ » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:39 am

            encode_decode wrote:
            Meno_ wrote:We have been meddling with nature quote a while now, and we are further along in technology not to be able to put us there , so the answers are out there, already, from the state we are in. Its observable.

            The big issues regarding gays in the military, orgAn transplants, beneficial and humane euthanasia, use of narcotics for leisure and illness, to name a few, habe already been pretty much disposed as morally workable.

            In my mind the answer is yes.

            Yes to what?



            To the poll , voting yes.
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            Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

            Postby encode_decode » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:55 am

            Meno_ wrote:To the poll, voting yes.

            I was not quite sure to begin with, thanks for that Meno_.
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              Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

              Postby encode_decode » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:55 am

              Meno_ wrote:We have been meddling with nature quote a while now, and we are further along in technology not to be able to put us there , so the answers are out there, already, from the state we are in. Its observable.

              The answers might already be out there but it seems we are still having a hard time implementing them. The real problem is life is too complicated to manage anymore without the help of technology and as I am suggesting it is going to take more than just man by himself to address issues of our future - it is going to take woman as well.

              Meno_ wrote:The big issues regarding gays in the military, orgAn transplants, beneficial and humane euthanasia, use of narcotics for leisure and illness, to name a few, have already been pretty much disposed as morally workable.

              This maybe the case but we are still struggling to make things work on these fronts and why would we think that is? As usual philosophy leads to more questions and I think there are still millions of questions that need to be addressed. The new questions arise with every leap forward that we take.

              Humans as they stand right now are not fully communicating - they become apathetic around big questions and dismiss the smaller questions as if they do not matter. We are living life like there is no tomorrow - engaging with our lonely egos more than ever before - not identifying that some of humankind's traits have become obsolete in the light of the technoworld.
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                Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

                Postby Meno_ » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:17 am

                encode_decode wrote:
                Meno_ wrote:We have been meddling with nature quote a while now, and we are further along in technology not to be able to put us there , so the answers are out there, already, from the state we are in. Its observable.

                The answers might already be out there but it seems we are still having a hard time implementing them. The real problem is life is too complicated to manage anymore without the help of technology and as I am suggesting it is going to take more than just man by himself to address issues of our future - it is going to take woman as well.

                Meno_ wrote:The big issues regarding gays in the military, orgAn transplants, beneficial and humane euthanasia, use of narcotics for leisure and illness, to name a few, have already been pretty much disposed as morally workable.

                This maybe the case but we are still struggling to make things work on these fronts and why would we think that is? As usual philosophy leads to more questions and I think there are still millions of questions that need to be addressed. The new questions arise with every leap forward that we take.

                Humans as they stand right now are not fully communicating - they become apathetic around big questions and dismiss the smaller questions as if they do not matter. We are living life like there is no tomorrow - engaging with our lonely egos more than ever before - not identifying that some of humankind's traits have become obsolete in the light of the technoworld.


                I pretty much agree with the above, that we are on our way to understand what we have to deal with in regards to adapting to the effects of technology, while I'm not sure that technology can adapt to us as well. This talk about the so gularitu of a technological apex arriving in another generation or so, is still an inconceivable largesse of a xhallenged, while the question is whether our capacity to not only understand what's going on, but our capacity to live in a postmodern world, in fact one could call or a hypermodern world. Can life keep adapting as the technology progresses on. Malthusian curve?
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                Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

                Postby encode_decode » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:33 am

                Mankind has the tendency to utilize abundance for increasing the population rather than for maintaining a high standard of living.

                Go forth and multiply.

                I know that this is part of our animal nature to get caught up in the fox and the rabbit predator-prey relationship.

                Imagine where we could go with maintaining the population rather than increasing the population - especially with better health-care - there too, I see the need for machines to help us maintain infrastructure that might become too cumbersome to manage in the wake of a sudden decrease in population.
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                  Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

                  Postby Meno_ » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:44 am

                  I really can't understand why the Chinese abandoned the 1 child family law, guess they threw away sensible policy in favor of having happy families. So goes the wisdom of the east, thrown under the bus.
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                  Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

                  Postby Pandora » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:19 pm

                  Meno_ wrote:I really can't understand why the Chinese abandoned the 1 child family law, guess they threw away sensible policy in favor of having happy families. So goes the wisdom of the east, thrown under the bus.

                  Wouldn’t turning a certain percentage of Chinese population gay achieve the same result in as far as controlling population numbers is concerned? This way, it’s not a matter of government being controlling and oppressive, but a matter of “personal choice”.
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                  Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

                  Postby Meno_ » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:35 pm

                  Pandora wrote:
                  Meno_ wrote:I really can't understand why the Chinese abandoned the 1 child family law, guess they threw away sensible policy in favor of having happy families. So goes the wisdom of the east, thrown under the bus.

                  Wouldn’t turning a certain percentage of Chinese population gay achieve the same result in as far as controlling population numbers is concerned? This way, it’s not a matter of government being controlling and oppressive, but a matter of “personal choice”.



                  Probably not, since universal family control over family size outnumbered a decline in new population control due to homosexuality, by the gross difference in numbers, since barely 5% max.that any country is considered exclusively homosexual.I may deviate somewhat on the figures.
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                  Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

                  Postby Pandora » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:49 pm

                  encode_decode wrote:Mankind has the tendency to utilize abundance for increasing the population rather than for maintaining a high standard of living.

                  Go forth and multiply.

                  I know that this is part of our animal nature to get caught up in the fox and the rabbit predator-prey relationship.

                  Imagine where we could go with maintaining the population rather than increasing the population - especially with better health-care - there too, I see the need for machines to help us maintain infrastructure that might become too cumbersome to manage in the wake of a sudden decrease in population.
                  There a lot of people now who question the 7 billion number, people who take official statistics and make their own calculations (like this guy), go to google earth and count houses, survey cemeteries, go to public places like airports and actually count people coming in and out, and compare it to official statistics presented. I don’t have an opinion as to what the actual number may be, (as far as I can tell, it may as well be based on some computer algorithm) but I do think that there is a population control agenda going on, and various methods are used to achieve that.
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                  Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

                  Postby Meno_ » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:21 pm

                  Pandora: Your statement is correct,Pandora, and according to this, the only way to offset the possible inequality suggested, is to actively promote homosexuality. The LGBT community has been political for a long time now, there is little doubt about that, and Your statement is factual.but. China, in not so sure.
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                  Re: Future together in the face of the technoworld.

                  Postby encode_decode » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:02 pm

                  Pandora wrote:I don’t have an opinion as to what the actual number may be, (as far as I can tell, it may as well be based on some computer algorithm) but I do think that there is a population control agenda going on, and various methods are used to achieve that.

                  The big question for me is whether the population control agenda is intentional or a natural consequence of cause and effect.

                  How does one uncover such an agenda? The Chinese made their agenda more clear in the past.
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