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Re: Eventually Empathy will Trump Emnity

Postby Arminius » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:56 pm

pilgrim-seeker_tom wrote:
Arminius wrote:Communists have to be optimists. They have no other choice - except death, caused either by a bullet or by Gulag. Their "arguments" and "evidences" are not more than merely ideology (modern religion), in praxis: terror, thus death again. When their terror system crashes, they are so much depressed that it is not possible ot find them on the surface of this planet. So in reality, communists are those pessimists who are using optimism as a mask for power reasons.


Arminius ... you're a genius! :-) ... notwithstanding your access to that yuge data bank. :-)

What do you mean by the word "yuge", Pilgrim-Seeker Tom?
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Re: Eventually Empathy will Trump Emnity

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:32 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:Understanding American politics currently I am starting to understand our politics resembles reality television now in a form of media headlines entertainment which in turn makes it more palpable for the uneducated moronic idiots that make up the majority of the population.

Of course real lives and human suffering hangs in the balance with all of this but this is America where nobody really cares about anything other than their own monetary bottom line.

I would say it is humorous to watch and observe if not also very painful.


Truth is destructive

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Confronting truth is excruciatingly painful and fraught with peril.

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Re: Eventually Empathy will Trump Emnity

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:34 pm

Arminius wrote:
pilgrim-seeker_tom wrote:
Arminius wrote:Communists have to be optimists. They have no other choice - except death, caused either by a bullet or by Gulag. Their "arguments" and "evidences" are not more than merely ideology (modern religion), in praxis: terror, thus death again. When their terror system crashes, they are so much depressed that it is not possible ot find them on the surface of this planet. So in reality, communists are those pessimists who are using optimism as a mask for power reasons.


Arminius ... you're a genius! :-) ... notwithstanding your access to that yuge data bank. :-)

What do you mean by the word "yuge", Pilgrim-Seeker Tom?


many orders of magnitude larger than "huge" ... :-)
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Re: Eventually Empathy will Trump Emnity

Postby Arminius » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:46 pm

Prismatic567 wrote:
Prismatic567 wrote:I am an optimist and prefer to perceive the cup as half-full rather than half-empty.
But mine is not blind optimism rather I have presented my thesis with arguments and evidences.

Zero_Sum wrote:It surely comes off as blind optimism to me.

Arminius wrote:Communists have to be optimists. They have no other choice - except death, caused either by a bullet or by Gulag. Their "arguments" and "evidences" are not more than merely ideology (modern religion), in praxis: terror, thus death again. When their terror system crashes, they are so much depressed that it is not possible ot find them on the surface of this planet. So in reality, communists are those pessimists who are using optimism as a mask for power reasons.
I am apolitical, thus not bothered to be a communist or otherwise.

But as Schopenhauer has stated, the true blind optimists are theists especially those of the Abrahamic religions who so optimistic they will have eternal life in heaven/paradise as promised by an illusory God. And Schopenhauer sarcastically declared, if that is theistic optimism, then he [Schop] is a pessimist.

Believing in an illusory and impossible God is blind optimism which as a whole enable and is complicit to greater enmity in terms of terrible terrors, violence and all sorts of evils.

Fact is that the communists killed more than a hundred million people within a few decades! World record! Communism is the world champion of murder and terror!

And by the way, Prismatic 567: What can be seen in all your threads and especially in your "God ..." thread is that you have never understood that we have not argued for a belief or for a religion, but for logic. We have proven you wrong and reminded you of your many logical fallacies.

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Prismatic567 wrote:Believing in an illusory and impossible God is blind optimism which as a whole enable and is complicit to greater enmity in terms of terrible terrors, violence and all sorts of evils.


Prismatic ... what a 'drift' from your first comment in this OP. :o

Drugged on the self-aggrandizing drugs of excess, lude and lascivious lifestyles, and utter godlessness, the United States is all set for an apocalypse few in my country see.
https://journal-neo.org/2017/12/03/amer ... reckoning/

Pilgrim-Seeker Tom, is the owner of this New Eastern Outlook (NEO) an East Asian or an North American?
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Re: Eventually Empathy will Trump Emnity

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:03 pm

Arminius wrote:
Pilgrim-Seeker Tom, is the owner of this New Eastern Outlook (NEO) an East Asian or an North American?


my gut reaction ... :lol:

on reflection ... for at least one second ... you raise yet another profundity ... what genius indeed. :-)

the characteristic known as "nationality" is way down in the pecking order ... "person" is in first place" ... gender has traditionally been second ... seems it's up in the air now ... and so on down the line to nationality. :-)
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Re: Eventually Empathy will Trump Emnity

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:18 am

Arminius ... to the extent the following personal thoughts have any merit I attribute ... at least in part ... such merit to your smart ass(ness) ... thank you. :-)

Just returned from my morning walk along the beach ... let me start with the physical vista.

Arriving at the beach I immediately noticed the tide had receded much further than I'd ever seen before ... certainly nothing special for local villagers ... yet quite special for me. There were a couple groups of villagers way out where the ocean met the sand/mud ... likely digging for ocean critters ... I didn't feel like checking it out.

My interpretation of the above vista ... my esoteric thoughts: :-)

1) More Big "C" Consciousness was laid bare this morning.

2) A tiny component of the human family ... the vanguard of humanity ... is standing on the edge ... the point where Big "C" Consciousness meets small "c" consciousness ... human consciousness.

Now let me weave into the above thoughts some of my personal experiences.

My daughter Paula ... more accurately ... my biological daughter Paula ... my claim(s) to being her traditional/conventional father are very slim ... mathematically 3-4 percent. The upshot of this is I can claim plausible deniability for any responsibility for her decisions/actions.

OTH I applaud her mother Marsha's unconditional love ... at least what appears to be unconditional love on the surface. I say with confdence I would have failed Paula as I failed my son Kevin. (another rather long story) :-)

Paula is in a lesbian relationship and has birthed two children via "AI" ... nope ... not Artificial Intelligence ... rather Artificial Insemination ... no pun intended for you AI enthusiasts. :-) Not something a traditional/conventional parent is likely to brag about publicly.

This morning I 'see' Paula's decisions/actions as akin to the courage and determination of the early pioneers in North America. She is a member of that tiny community ... the vanguard of humanity.

There are two possible outcomes:

1) This tiny vanguard community is preparing the ground for the future of humanity ... ergo ... all our social ills will be corrected via "AI" and "AI" ... ergo ... we will eliminate all deviant genes from the human family's DNA. Seems to be a continuation of Hitler's project ... somewhat of a challenge for those who claim Hitler was defeated.

2) This tiny vanguard community will save humanity by clearly demonstrating the risks of "AI" and "AI" ... thereby arresting it's development and implementation.

The paradox is that both the above alternative outcomes point to the same conclusion ...

Humanity is fast approaching the moment where we will recognize that our biological being is subordinate to our spiritual being ... the moment may be much closer than we think/realize.

I'm so happy that I'm now able to shout from the housetops ... my immense pride in being the biological father of Paula as well as my immense pride in even the tiny role I played as her "dad".
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