What is Your Reason for Doing It?

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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby phyllo » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:25 pm

It's possible to set up your perceptions so that they insulate you from the world. IOW, you can create a fantasy world where you are happy.

But is that a good thing to do?
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby Along The Way » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:35 pm

phyllo wrote:It's possible to set up your perceptions so that they insulate you from the world. IOW, you can create a fantasy world where you are happy.

But is that a good thing to do?


I think it might be a necessary thing to do, and I think that all of us do this throughout life. Any interpretation of existence that isn't completely and utterly neutral, is an interpretation that is serving this or that affect or drive.

Illusion is necessary, but some illusions are better than others.
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:39 pm

A Shieldmaiden wrote:Pilgrim wrote:

Psychological Firewalls??


I think it is more of a case that we are all trying to make sense of this world.


SM ... perhaps only a tiny fraction of the human family is "trying to make sense of this world" ... those few people who feel the vibrations of the tectonic shifts occurring in our lifetime.

The sentiments you expressed in your previous post eloquently paint the 'portrait' of the individuals in this small community.

Therein lies the stumbling block for most. To get past this and be "brutally honest" (HA, those two words much maligned by many) requires one to step up to the edge of the abyss and look in, something as yet, I have not had the courage to do. So, I am riddled with false impressions and vivid allusions of who I am, incapable of the lofty ability to see unadulterated reason, even though I will proclaim I can.


The 'abyss' you mention is the 'unknown' ... the 'darkness' ... the 'unfamiliar' ... the 'unwelcome'.

The prevailing world view is ossified in human consciousness ... inertia has set in. The increasing turbulence in human activities ... political, economic, religious and so on ... is the fruit of the tectonic shifts ... not the root.

I like the picture Ruth Barrows paints with words:

“Surrender and abandonment are like a deep, inviting, frightening ocean into which we are drawn. We make excursions into it to test it, to see whether it’s safe, to enjoy the sensation of it. But for all kinds of reasons, we always go back to dry land, to solid ground, to where we are safe. But the ocean beckons us out anew and we risk again being afloat in something bigger than ourselves. And we keep doing that, wading in and then going back to safety, until one day, when we are ready, we just let the waters carry us away.”

Two things are important:

1) Offer no resistance ... attempt to ride the 'waves'.

2) Make no attempt to get ahead of the world. (Lao Tzu)
"Do not be influenced by the importance of the writer, and whether his learning be great or small; but let the love of pure truth draw you to read. Do not inquire, “Who said this?” but pay attention to what is said”

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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby phyllo » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:11 pm

SM ... perhaps only a tiny fraction of the human family is "trying to make sense of this world" ... those few people who feel the vibrations of the tectonic shifts occurring in our lifetime.
More likely ... almost everyone is trying to make sense of the world but there are many different approaches and many conclusions.
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby eaglerising » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:27 pm

If you discover what makes you uniquely different from the other 7.5 billion people on earth and develop it, you will be rewarded far more than you can possibly imagine. The beauty about this is that you love doing what makes you uniquely different. And because you love doing it, you do it most of the time so you get really good at it. And if it benefits others and they want it, they compensate you for it.
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby WendyDarling » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:43 pm

What's the best way to be compensated?
I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

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Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby eaglerising » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:53 am

Wendy_Darling, Why do you ask questions that you can answer yourself?
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:37 pm

Wendy_Darling, Why do you ask questions that you can answer yourself?


I could be mistaken, so I like to gather the opinions of others who may have uncovered an idea that I have not that would be the better.

So what is the best way for you to be compensated?
I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby eaglerising » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:26 am

Wendy_Darling – The question you might want to ask yourself is: "Why do you RESIST examining that which you can examine yourself or seeing what you can see yourself?" If you do this you will see that it is fear.
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby WendyDarling » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:24 pm

I am here to learn new ideas that may have been sparked in a head that's not my own, perhaps your ideas about how one ought to live. I ask for help when it may guide me and you refuse to help. You will not be questioned again, nor read any further.
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:31 pm

It's fun. That's my reason for doing "it".
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby Jakob » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:36 pm

eaglerising wrote:I ask this question because your reason or motive for doing anything is the key or determining factor in obtaining or achieving what you desire. It defines everything associated with your objective, as well as what will hinder or prevent you from achieving your objective. Understanding this principle is different from believing or disbelieving it.

Whether you realize it or not, life is governed by immutable laws. You are either in accord with them or opposing them. Life is more enjoyable and rewarding when you are in harmony with them. On the other hand, the more you oppose them, the more pain, conflict, and sorrow you experience. Consequently, your reason or motive for doing anything defines the quality of your life. Believing or disbelieving are not involved when you experience this reality because you will understand it.


Interesting.
How does one oppose immutable laws?
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby UrGod » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:31 pm

Jakob wrote:
eaglerising wrote:I ask this question because your reason or motive for doing anything is the key or determining factor in obtaining or achieving what you desire. It defines everything associated with your objective, as well as what will hinder or prevent you from achieving your objective. Understanding this principle is different from believing or disbelieving it.

Whether you realize it or not, life is governed by immutable laws. You are either in accord with them or opposing them. Life is more enjoyable and rewarding when you are in harmony with them. On the other hand, the more you oppose them, the more pain, conflict, and sorrow you experience. Consequently, your reason or motive for doing anything defines the quality of your life. Believing or disbelieving are not involved when you experience this reality because you will understand it.


Interesting.
How does one oppose immutable laws?


By becoming non-existent, it seems.
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby MagsJ » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:16 pm

...coz it's in the blood. :P
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby Dan~ » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:26 am

eaglerising wrote:I ask this question because your reason or motive for doing anything is the key or determining factor in obtaining or achieving what you desire. It defines everything associated with your objective, as well as what will hinder or prevent you from achieving your objective. Understanding this principle is different from believing or disbelieving it.

Whether you realize it or not, life is governed by immutable laws. You are either in accord with them or opposing them. Life is more enjoyable and rewarding when you are in harmony with them. On the other hand, the more you oppose them, the more pain, conflict, and sorrow you experience. Consequently, your reason or motive for doing anything defines the quality of your life. Believing or disbelieving are not involved when you experience this reality because you will understand it.

This sounds entirely true.
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Re: What is Your Reason for Doing It?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:33 am

Law of attraction is true.

One day, I wished I was eating some taco bell.

Lo and behold I walked to the taco bell and it came true.

I also, fantasized about having sex with a robot when I was a teen.

Lo and behold, many years from now, it may become true.

Law of attraction doesn't say when it will happen, just that it will happen. If reincarnation is true, then it's not a matter of if, but when. Maybe decades from now, or a next life, but I keep the faith. I always wanted a dirt buggy when I was a kid. If I have to work at a factory for 5 months to afford it, then so be it, its my job to do the work to manifest my destiny. If I have to go to college for 4 years, program an AI for 8 years and work my way up the corporate ladder for 10 years to get people to build my fantasy, new and improved robot design, that I imagined when I was a teen, then so be it, got to live the dream. Might as well call it magic or the universe itself.
It's kind of like a girl you have a crush on.
You may sleep many loneless, miserable nights for even weeks, months or years.
But keep the faith and eventually you may find a ring on your hand.
God is good.
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