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Re: Reality - Version 0.1

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:47 pm

encode_decode wrote:
    WendyDarling

    These are all things that interest me - and funnily enough I think we are still able to keep a rational mind through it all . . .

    WendyDarling wrote:Since you gave me a yes, then I will add that the soul, the seat of consciousness, is a separate body which works in tandem with the biological body. Also, the eyes of the soul(your 3rd eye :evilfun: ) records memories, just as the eyes connected to the brain records memories. I'm not convinced that the brain has the ability or the authority to pull up all of our long term memories warehoused in the soul so what is retrieved by the brain when it concerns long term memories are always different than remembered. I'm not sure how the brain and soul interact concerning all the gathered information which makes up you. I've astral projected voluntarily, from a wakened state (not lucid dreaming) once and twice involuntarily, it is upon these three different experiences concerning my soul traveling that I make my claims about such metaphysical notions.

    ...and I'm rambling...sorry. :-?

    You are certainly not rambling to me. I was exploring something similar in a thread I started called paradox of vu - which was really about the paradox of the sensed - there were a number of different and interesting answers. The way you and I define the soul as the seat of the consciousness has a couple of similarities to James' spirit in that it is a separate body which works in tandem with the biological body(and again I know I will be corrected if I messed up). I think it is maybe at this point that that we all either diverge or the topic becomes ambiguous. I have never considered my third eye as the eyes of my soul but then I have only just changed over my definition of soul due to the last one being poorly defined. I have always considered my third eye as my minds eye - so that is confusing to me - however I have been a Christian like person most of my life. I still love the Bible but there is so much out there to learn and I consider myself everyone's student - I have never been able to achieve and astral projection so I can not really comment on that - all I can say is that I have tried many times. I do however spend a lot of time in deep meditation. It seems that I can feel events before they happen sometimes too; I am not even sure what that is about.

    Now I am rambling!

    :lol:

    A good ramble is a good ramble. I have much to say, but we're veering off topic again, aren't we? If you start a new thread to discuss this astral interest, I'll definitely drop by. :wink:
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    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

    Postby encode_decode » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:57 pm

    WendyDarling wrote:A good ramble is a good ramble. I have much to say, but we're veering off topic again, aren't we? If you start a new thread to discuss this astral interest, I'll definitely drop by. :wink:

    Yeah a good ramble is great. I am not bothered by veering off topic. Where would you suggest I start an astral thread?
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    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

    Postby WendyDarling » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:05 pm

    The Sandbox, since we have no idea where this is headed philosophically.
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    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

    Postby encode_decode » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:08 pm

      No problem . . .

      WendyDarling wrote:The Sandbox, since we have no idea where this is headed philosophically.

      :lol:

      That sounds fair to me.
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      But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning, which is to say there is always meaning.(gib - 2017)
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      Re: Reality - Version 0.1

      Postby James S Saint » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:32 pm

      encode_decode wrote:
      WendyDarling wrote:
      The concept always remains the same concept, but the physical memory eventually falls to entropy.

      When you refer to physical memory, are you referring to the deterioration of our biological body, predominantly the central nervous system?

      I know James will correct me if I am wrong but I believe the answer to this is yes, the deterioration of our biological body including the central nervous system.

      The concept of who you are now - I am thinking with each instant stays the same.

      I am also under the impression that what James refers to as a spirit, you and I are calling a soul - to me they are just words - what they represent is important to me - however I think it is important to treat the words as they are appropriate to each philosophy.

      I was referring to the entropy of the physical arrangement associated with memory. Wendy is a true dualist, believing that the soul is an entity with memory and decision making capability, never forgetting anything. What I refer to as a soul, is the essential definition of who and what you are, thus not an "entity" as such but a concept (hence in the Conceptual/Divine Realm). And a "spirit" is merely a type of behavior, necessarily physical.
      Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
      Else
      From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

      The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

      You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
      The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
      It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
      As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

      Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
      Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

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      Re: Reality - Version 0.1

      Postby encode_decode » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:36 pm

      James S Saint wrote:I was referring to the entropy of the physical arrangement associated with memory. Wendy is a true dualist, believing that the soul is an entity with memory and decision making capability, never forgetting anything. What I refer to as a soul, is the essential definition of who and what you are, thus not an "entity" as such but a concept (hence in the Conceptual/Divine Realm). And a "spirit" is merely a type of behavior, necessarily physical.

      My apologies. I forgot to take into account the original question that I asked that prompted your answer. It can still be applied the the physical body though, cant it? Yes Wendy and I differ a little on the subject of the soul.
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      But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning, which is to say there is always meaning.(gib - 2017)
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      Re: Reality - Version 0.1

      Postby encode_decode » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:03 pm

        James

        OK - I am going to work something out here . . .

        James S Saint wrote:Energy is the consequential state (aka "PtA", Potential-to-Affect).

        Consequential indicates following as a result or effect. So you are therefore saying that the PtA has to be built up first before it can affect.

        We have two variables: A & B

        B is in an initial state of PtA = ZERO

        A contains, well, lets say TWO - it whacks B with two.

        B is now in a state of PtA = TWO as a consequence of being whacked by A

        Correct?

        Please keep in mind that this is a very basic but abstract example compared to what really happens - imagination is kind of useful here.
        Crawl before Walk et cetera.
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        But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning, which is to say there is always meaning.(gib - 2017)
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        Re: Reality - Version 0.1

        Postby encode_decode » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:40 pm

          Now lets analyze.

          Let us create two arrays: Array 1 and Array 2 - they live in metaspace.

          Both arrays are randomly initialized . . . array one is the first array to affect and therefore is assigned as the primary array.

          Array 1 stores the PtA of 1000 bits of fuzz-ball : Array 2 stores the PtA of 1000 bits of fuzz-ball

          Array 1 and Array 2 are just references of the same bits of fuzz-ball

          Array 1 is now the affecting array.

          A affects B - B(which now has a new PtA) is in Array 2 - Array 2 is updated with the affect from Array 1 and now Array 2 becomes the primary array.

          Array 2 is now the affecting array.

          B affects C - C(which now has a new PtA) is in Array 1 - Array 1 is updated with the affect from Array 2 and now Array 1 become the primary array.

          Array 1 is now the affecting array.

          This switching of primaries continues indefinitely.

          We can structure the Arrays so A, B, C etc. also contain coordinates along with PtA of the fuzz-ball bits.

          NOTE: The Array Segments are copies of each other in both arrays - so A is in the first position and B is in the second position in both arrays. However each bit of fuzz-ball is free to move around in space - so later in the switching Z could be affecting A. I hope I am making sense . . .

          What just happened in physical space? Let us break a rule and use infinite homogeneity as a convenience. Let us take a five by four chunk of physical space(2D).

          A - 0 0 0 0 0
          B - 0 0 0 0 0
          C - 2 0 0 0 0
          D - 0 0 0 0 0

          As it relates to the previous example of ZERO and TWO. We finished at C in column one with a value of 2 because the example is linear - if we utilized coordinates we could have ended up in column 3 at position C provided we were going diagonally or column 3 at position A going left to right.

          What was happening in metaspace is reflected in physical space. The switching of arrays is just conceptual. The affect in physical space is physical.
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          But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning, which is to say there is always meaning.(gib - 2017)
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          Re: Reality - Version 0.1

          Postby James S Saint » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:31 am

          Hmm.. I like starting with randomly initialized PtA values in an array. But realize that "potential-to-affect" means that something is going to be affected. What gets affected is the surrounding PtA points. Point A affects point B which is simultaneously affecting C, and so on. So the next array is to display the next instant in time.
          Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
          Else
          From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

          The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

          You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
          The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
          It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
          As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

          Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
          Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

          The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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          Re: Reality - Version 0.1

          Postby WendyDarling » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:18 am

          Wendy is a true dualist, believing that the soul is an entity with memory and decision making capability, never forgetting anything.

          We, our conscious spark of life, are found in the entity of our soul, and our meat sacks move while our soul entity wears the flesh housing (that is not conscious, merely flesh clothing allowing different forms of sensory input and communication exchanges). Two bodies, one mind working both. Am I being clear enough?
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          I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

          Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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          Re: Reality - Version 0.1

          Postby James S Saint » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:04 am

          WendyDarling wrote:Two bodies, one mind working both. Am I being clear enough?

          I understand what you mean.
          Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
          Else
          From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

          The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

          You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
          The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
          It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
          As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

          Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
          Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

          The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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          Re: Reality - Version 0.1

          Postby encode_decode » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:30 am

            A affects B - B(which now has a new PtA) is in Array 2 - Array 2 is updated with the affect from Array 1 and now Array 2 becomes the primary array.

            Array 2 is now the affecting array. Affecting Array 1.

            Lets mark our segments with hexadecimal instead . . . A becomes 0, B becomes 1, C becomes 2

            0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F . . . 3E5,3E6,3E7 - This represents segments 0 to 999 without left padding(leading zeros)

            (where 0 to F is 0 to 15 and 3E5=997, 3E6=998, 3E7=999) 1000 segments are updated at once.

            All segments in the array are updated at once. Let us try it - with left padding(leading zeros)
            The hexadecimal represents the segment addresses. Columns are in integers and separated by pipes for clarity.

            First reset the active(primary) array back to Array 1.

            Instant in time 0 - Each Segment is Randomly Initialized.

            000 | 1 | 8 | 6 | 3 | 4 |
            001 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 5 | 2 |
            002 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 6 |
            003 | 7 | 5 | 3 | 9 | 3 |
            004 | 2 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 9 |
            . . .
            3E5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 |
            3E6 | 2 | 6 | 1 | 7 | 5 |
            3E7 | 5 | 2 | 6 | 3 | 1 |

            Instant in time 1 - Lets propagate top to bottom in column 2 with a value of 1

            000 | 1 | 9 | 6 | 3 | 4 |
            001 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 5 | 2 |
            002 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 6 |
            003 | 7 | 6 | 3 | 9 | 3 |
            004 | 2 | 9 | 7 | 6 | 9 |
            . . .
            3E5 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 3 |
            3E6 | 2 | 7 | 1 | 7 | 5 |
            3E7 | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 1 |

            Propagation affects all segments in the array at once. This example represents two instances in time(0 and 1)

            We finished at 3E7 in column two, changing the value from 2 to 3. All the PtA values were updated by one, in an instant of time - the example is still linear.

            If we utilized coordinates we could propagate diagonally and left to right as well. Actually we could do a lot more than that.

            James S Saint wrote:Hmm.. I like starting with randomly initialized PtA values in an array. But realize that "potential-to-affect" means that something is going to be affected. What gets affected is the surrounding PtA points. Point A affects point B which is simultaneously affecting C, and so on. So the next array is to display the next instant in time.

            Time 0 was Array 1 and Time 1 was Array 2 - we would have finished on Array 1 as active which is ready for Time 2.

            I am guessing the next thing you will mention will be regarding PtA and maybe Points.
            Something like not propagating with the value of one but using the numbers in the columns instead.

            :-k

            I am very tired but I triple checked the above - even with a triple check I have made mistakes when tired - just an FYI.
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            Re: Reality - Version 0.1

            Postby James S Saint » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:58 am

            Each PtA number represents how much affect is available to be propagated. If a point has a PtA value of 4, that point propagates only that much PtA. And it is propagated to an adjacent point. Perhaps point (0,1) propagates to point (0,2). And as the PtA propagates to a new point, it leaves the prior point. If the PtA at (0,1) was 4, after the first instant of time, (0,2) becomes 4 and (0,1) becomes zero.

            Of course since every point is receiving PtA as well as transmitting PtA, (0,1) would actually not go to 0 but rather go to its newly received value, perhaps from (0,0).

            You might also want to include that PtA values can be positive, representing the potential to increase PtA, or can be negative, representing the ability to decrease PtA.
            Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
            Else
            From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

            The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

            You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
            The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
            It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
            As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

            Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
            Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

            The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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            Re: Reality - Version 0.1

            Postby encode_decode » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:30 am

              James

              OK, I am not being a smart ass - so don't get the wrong idea. I just want to be candid(truthful and straightforward; frank).

              I get the concept of propagation in the following quote:

              James S Saint wrote:Each PtA number represents how much affect is available to be propagated. If a point has a PtA value of 4, that point propagates only that much PtA. And it is propagated to an adjacent point. Perhaps point (0,1) propagates to point (0,2). And as the PtA propagates to a new point, it leaves the prior point. If the PtA at (0,1) was 4, after the first instant of time, (0,2) becomes 4 and (0,1) becomes zero.

              Of course since every point is receiving PtA as well as transmitting PtA, (0,1) would actually not go to 0 but rather go to its newly received value, perhaps from (0,0).

              Which sounds similar to the following to me:

              encode_decode wrote:I am guessing the next thing you will mention will be regarding PtA and maybe Points.
              Something like not propagating with the value of one but using the numbers in the columns instead.

              With the exception that we are adding coordinates.

              encode_decode wrote:You might also want to include that PtA values can be positive, representing the potential to increase PtA, or can be negative, representing the ability to decrease PtA.

              In metaspace we can do anything. We have a lot of flexibility.

              So we are switching from Segments and Columns to Coordinates. Each Coordinate contains a negative or positive value for PtA.

              Correct?

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              Re: Reality - Version 0.1

              Postby James S Saint » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:06 pm

              encode_decode wrote:Which sounds similar to the following to me:
              encode_decode wrote:I am guessing the next thing you will mention will be regarding PtA and maybe Points.
              Something like not propagating with the value of one but using the numbers in the columns instead.

              With the exception that we are adding coordinates.

              I didn't want to make a liar out of you. 8)

              encode_decode wrote:So we are switching from Segments and Columns to Coordinates. Each Coordinate contains a negative or positive value for PtA.

              Correct?

              [-o<

              You already had coordinates with the arrays. It's e4asier if you use them, especially since it all becomes 3D after a while.

              Let me know when you think that you have all of that straight because the next issue will throw you. 8)
              Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
              Else
              From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

              The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

              You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
              The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
              It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
              As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

              Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
              Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

              The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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              Re: Reality - Version 0.1

              Postby encode_decode » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:42 pm

                James

                Has anyone ever told you that you are a pain in the neck sometimes? :lol: Kidding of course.

                James S Saint wrote:I didn't want to make a liar out of you. 8)

                Thanks man.

                James S Saint wrote:You already had coordinates with the arrays. It's easier if you use them, especially since it all becomes 3D after a while.

                Yeah yeah . . . I should have said coordinate system. 3D Cartesian Coordinate System. The arrays I will use for storing each set of coordinates.

                James S Saint wrote:Let me know when you think that you have all of that straight because the next issue will throw you. 8)

                I think that I have all of that straight. I can contemplate the next issue while I work on some new logic.

                8)
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                Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                Postby James S Saint » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:04 pm

                encode_decode wrote:Has anyone ever told you that you are a pain in the neck sometimes?

                More times than I can count. But its good for you to finally get that out. Now we can move a little faster. 8)

                encode_decode wrote:I think that I have all of that straight. I can contemplate the next issue while I work on some new logic.

                8)

                Well okay. You had propagations going along any chosen axes and even mentioned propagating diagonally. Using an orthographic array, such is simple and obvious. But of course in reality, propagation must occur at ANY angle. So how are you going to arrange for that with your arrays (I should mention that this is largely how I started as well)?
                Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
                Else
                From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

                The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
                Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

                The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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                Reality - Ver 0.1 - Response - Part 1

                Postby encode_decode » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:58 am

                  James

                  I guess I have a propensity toward a more passive approach . . . when the time calls for it.
                  Since I have been here, I have had to take a good look at what I have to deal with - initially I was attacked - rationally speaking that directly points at emotional conduct in my eyes. That to me, runs against the grain of good philosophy. Before I arrived here I existed in a very logical world. A world far superior in rationality.

                  Constructive criticism in the before world could be easily discerned. In this "new" world it is difficult to determine what is constructive and what is trolling. The language I am used to follows words like, preposterous, nonsense, complete rubbish to name but a few examples - This new world its seems quite often follows words like, shit, fuck, asshole to name but a few examples. My before world should not be taken to mean the old world, however my tolerance for this "new" world has lessened quite rapidly for the time I have been here. To say that I am impressed with this "new" world, would be a disgusting overstatement.

                  James S Saint wrote:More times than I can count. But its good for you to finally get that out. Now we can move a little faster. 8)

                  I really appreciate that James. I get no enjoyment from offending people - especially those I respect so much. :D I feel that a good philosopher should take no offense. Good philosophy should have at its basis - fortified thinking, to put it simply.

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                  Notes on my methods: Some of the following information is usually kept in the background so as not to pollute the communication process. I do however feel it is necessary to share a few things here so that you have a clearer picture of how I operate. I get the feeling I might have introduced some confusion at some stage.

                  James S Saint wrote:You had propagations going along any chosen axes and even mentioned propagating diagonally. Using an orthographic array, such is simple and obvious.

                  I did this entirely on purpose. I habitually approach problems a certain way - because I have found that the problem is usually the solution in reverse(poetic license).

                  You have the solution - it introduces to me a problem. So I break apart your solution into the smallest parts I can find. That way I can determine needed refinements in the information process - basically I hit the black box with a sledge hammer with the intention to reverse engineer the solution. Metaphorically speaking the parts are scattered everywhere and they become a puzzle to be put back together. I usually make the parts fit together better than before.
                  This works hand in hand with abstraction.

                  I call it a workup. It is a process whereby I separate and purify differential information so that I can analyze each derivative.
                  Chemists use a similar procedure.

                  After a successful workup, I move on to the next step. This next step I call compounding.

                  Compounding is a process whereby I amalgamate 'each elemental unit(each derivative)' into larger structural components. Compounding is done incrementally.

                  Slow and steady wins the race . . .

                  Step 1 ► Workup
                  Step 2 ► Compounding

                  From what I discern so far we have two separate compounds, metaspace and physical space. Each space is a compound space else it would be empty.
                  Empty space must be non-existent. Euclidean space is non existent until you add dimensions. Euclidean space is a compound of elemental dimensions.
                  To only add one element to empty space is as good as saying it is empty - for what could affect it and what could it affect?
                  Even the first dimension is a compound, constituted of two connected points - we call this a line.
                  The First Dimension is the LINE consisting of infinite points

                  Regarding: Now we can move a little faster. 8) Yes we can - I suggest rather than a set speed - acceleration.

                  Let us sensibly build momentum within both of our set limits - lessening the confinement a step at a time.

                  8)
                  - Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion. (2017) -

                  But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning, which is to say there is always meaning.(gib - 2017)
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                  Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                  Postby James S Saint » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:35 am

                  James S Saint wrote:But of course in reality, propagation must occur at ANY angle. So how are you going to arrange for that with your arrays (I should mention that this is largely how I started as well)?

                  ?? 8)
                  Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
                  Else
                  From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

                  The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                  You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                  The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                  It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                  As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                  Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
                  Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

                  The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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                  Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                  Postby encode_decode » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:51 am

                  James S Saint wrote:
                  James S Saint wrote:But of course in reality, propagation must occur at ANY angle. So how are you going to arrange for that with your arrays (I should mention that this is largely how I started as well)?

                  ?? 8)

                  I am getting to that - before that I will be approaching the topic of the word orthographic.
                  - Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion. (2017) -

                  But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning, which is to say there is always meaning.(gib - 2017)
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                  Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                  Postby James S Saint » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:38 pm

                  :-k
                  Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
                  Else
                  From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

                  The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                  You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                  The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                  It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                  As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                  Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
                  Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

                  The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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                  Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                  Postby encode_decode » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:54 pm

                    I am just taking care of a few things. Just a quick note.

                    James S Saint wrote: :-k

                    Regarding angles . . . do you have some trick up your sleeve? When I consider what you said I find myself thinking about PtA does not move but rather passes itself on so rotation matrices, quaternions, Euler angles(and gimble lock) and what ever else I am missing here are the flip side of your statement: Let me know when you think that you have all of that straight because the next issue will throw you. 8). Alternatively I could be reading what you said wrong.
                    - Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion. (2017) -

                    But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning, which is to say there is always meaning.(gib - 2017)
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                    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                    Postby encode_decode » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:48 pm

                    :-k
                    - Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion. (2017) -

                    But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning, which is to say there is always meaning.(gib - 2017)
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                    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                    Postby Arcturus Descending » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:29 pm

                    James S Saint wrote:
                    encode_decode wrote:Maybe the only thing we can say with certainty is that we exist.

                    :-k

                    But then, what does it mean "to exist"?


                    Look to his little "pink" koi avatar. lol
                    That is what it means to exist...movement.
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                    What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

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                    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                    Postby encode_decode » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:37 pm

                      Arcturus Descending

                      Huh . . . pink . . . boys don't wear pink . . .

                      Arcturus Descending wrote:
                      James S Saint wrote:
                      encode_decode wrote:Maybe the only thing we can say with certainty is that we exist.

                      :-k

                      But then, what does it mean "to exist"?


                      Look to his little "pink" koi avatar. lol
                      That is what it means to exist...movement.

                      Actually I totally disagree with this complete nonsense :lol: I am totally joking . . . you are so close to the truth here Arcturus Descending.

                      Now I have to deal with an issue in the divine realm - involving the scaling of infinity . . .

                      . . . so that things can move in the physical totality of existence.

                      :-k
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                      But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning, which is to say there is always meaning.(gib - 2017)
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