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Re: Reality - Version 0.1

Postby encode_decode » Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:53 pm

It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
(Anomaly654 - 2017)

But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
- which is to say there is always meaning.

(gib - 2017)

Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
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Current To Do List

Postby encode_decode » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:03 pm

      1 Increase the size of the Meta-Box.
      2 Double the Afflates processed for the larger Meta-Box.
      3 Make some color adjustments(same amount of distinct yellow as distinct blue, with a lot of green between).
      4 Calculate the ambient density for each individual afflate.
      5 Toy with Afflate Scatter.
      6 Calculate the engagement speed for each Afflate.
      7 Consider all rules of engagement.
    It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
    (Anomaly654 - 2017)

    But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
    - which is to say there is always meaning.

    (gib - 2017)

    Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
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    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

    Postby encode_decode » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:35 pm

      Back to the field emulation...

      I have put two sentences of my own in here as well as making four edits(for clarity), the rest is written by James . . .

      PtA
      PtA, Potential-to-Affect, refers to a physical situation, an arrangement of substance, not the substance itself. Space is similar in that regard. As PtA changes, it becomes the physical substance called "affectance". And PtA is always undergoing changes, being affected as it affects. Affectance is the changing of the PtA situation. Affectance is the changing whereas PtA is the arrangement of the changing that is itself being changed. It is easiest to think of PtA as an electric field and affectance as a electromagnetic wave (EMR). An electric field is merely a situation, not a substance. And an electromagnetic wave is an electric field that is changing.

      The physical affects the physical and the meta affects the meta. And at times, they are the same thing.

      The PtA is the arrangement of affectance being emulated and Afflates are just a chosen portion of affectance to study during the emulation . . .

      Ambient Density
      The next concern is choosing how you are going to calculate the ambient density for each individual afflate. It might be interesting to display a point by point averaged affectance density so as to get a better feel for the actual field rather than watching racing afflates. The field, although still rustling about, will be smoother, more like a shifting cloud.

      Again, this is a time when you have some freedom to pick and choose which way you would like to setup the field. You have specific afflate characteristics defined as if they were marbles (not yet "fuzzy"), yet the field has no such hard objects within. So if asked what the field density is as some point, {d,e,f}, precisely how are you going to use the local afflates to determine (to declare) the precise density ... at any point chosen?

      By "point", I merely mean a chosen location within the space. And yes, choose a type of averaging that will yield the kind of field you are trying to form (smoother, choppier,...). And you will want to make that a "hook" so that you can play with it later.

      A point can be chosen with any resolution I guess, obviously there is more than two "things" involved but points are infinitely small so I could base my average on a small or large selection.

      You could, just for example, have a linear decrease in afflate characteristic with distance from surrounding afflates. Or it could be exponential, giving a more choppy effect. I would recommend a very limited local distance for the range of evaluation so as to not consume too much processor time. I had to think for a while to figure a way to quickly evaluate each afflate's (or location point's) immediate surrounding. Of course, you are free to choose your own method.

      Realize that the afflates do not interact with each other directly. Each afflate interacts with it's immediate ambient field, which is an indirect association with the combination of the other local afflates. Each afflate interacts with the averaged affect of all local afflates.

      • dx = difference in x values, "differential".
      • Af1.x = x coordinate of Afflate1 (then Af21.x, Af53.x,...)
      • x = x coordinate of the point of interest.
      • d = distance between point of interest and a local afflate.
      Actually, I guess that your notation will be more like, "Af.1.x" or some such.

      One could do the simple yet smart thing and just search the entire list of afflates to see which ones are close enough to be concerned with. To save processor search time, I chose to divide the entire cubic space into many cubical regions, 40x40x40 regional cubes. Every time an afflate moved, I recorded which region it was in. Then each region had a list of the only afflates of concern. Then in order to save memory space (perhaps not relevant in your case), I created a set of dynamic link-list functions to prevent wasted space (AddToLinkList, DeleteFromLinkList,...). Each afflate remembers the region. Each region stores an entry point into the link-list for all afflates. The search time turned out to be very quick without wasting memory resource.

      Of course going down the link-list, each associated afflate had to be measured for closeness and varied trial formulas were used to decide how much affect each close afflate would have on the average at the point of interest (the afflate under calculation). The size of the afflates is very relevant at this point.

      An additional issue is raised when you realize that one cannot merely examine a single region in order to average in all near afflates. Depending on how close the afflate is to a regional border, adjacent regions must also be included in the averaging. Unfortunately that requires the process to be considerably longer. I used a special table to provide quick region adjacency pointers, but the processor still had to go through each adjacent region's link-list.

      The examination of the local region to resolve the ambient affectance took most of the processor time. Once the ambience is resolved (still involving much more than currently discussed), how to move to afflate is very complex, involving the more sophisticated math (trig functions and such), but not terribly time consuming.

      Light Photons
      Light photons (light bundles of energy) are extremely large puffs of affectance (relative to afflate sizing) traveling in a single direction. Such large groups have to "swim" through the ambient affectance field and thus their speed is dependent upon the density of that field.

      A field of absolute zero affectance is not physically possible, but the thought of it allows for a measuring point for "zero density" (absolute nothingness). IF such a zero-field existed, affectance would travel through that zero-field at a particular speed (infinite speed is impossible due to all affects requiring time). A puff of affectance with zero resistance must propagate as fast as any affect can possibly travel. That much is logically required.

      A puff of light traveling through an "absolute vacuum" would be the same as an afflate traveling through absolute nothingness. And thus the propagation speed of both would be identical = "the speed of light in an absolute vacuum" = "c0".

      Real light photons can never actually do that and in fact, due to their size, there is always an afflate that is propagating faster than any light photon. But the difference between them is almost immeasurably small. So practically speaking, the speed of light in an absolute vacuum, the speed of an afflate in zero density ambient affectance, and the fastest propagation speed possible are all the same.

      Gravitation
      I am saying that what we call "gravity" is both physical in every location where it is operating and also "gravity" is a concept at all times. But as stated, there are no "forces". Gravity is not a force, but rather a "gradient migration" (a migration due to an affectance density gradient).

      Gravitating is what particles do when they are in an affectance density gradient (ie. denser gradually becoming less dense or vsvrsa). Particles migrate into the higher affectance density (assuming no polarity is involved).

      Gravitation behaves such as to give the appearance of a pulling force. For all practical purposes, it might as well be a pulling force. But what is actually happening has nothing to do with forces pulling or pushing anything. The center point of each particle is merely getting reconstructed a little closer to the more dense affectance field - closer to the other mass.
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      It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
      (Anomaly654 - 2017)

      But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
      - which is to say there is always meaning.

      (gib - 2017)

      Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
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      Re: Reality - Version 0.1

      Postby phyllo » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:13 pm

      encode_decode wrote:
        I just want to get a few things of my chest . . .

        First off - I do appreciate constructive criticism.

        Now I am not interested in debates that are not worth my while so I am not trying to start one of those - but lets get things into perspective here. The first program I ever wrote was not on a desktop system but rather a chip - I programmed a micro-processor directly and that was 33 years ago when I was a child - in elementary school is what I guess you would call it, I was the top of my class - I am not good at conflict but I am a pretty smart guy. When it comes to physics, I have a pretty good grasp of it, you need not worry about that. I am an Australian - so there might be a few little differences in communications depending on where ever you guys are from.

        The rubbish that people call software these days is highly abstracted and runs on amazing hardware - so everyone is living in a dream world if they think that compilers are better than ever. Microsoft C++ compiler is really good - it even has support for 2011 C++ standard - it is not the only good compiler but it is good. Assembly is kick ass - I probably use one of the better assemblers and have access to OpenGL and DirectX from it and believe me I see the difference.

        You want benchmarks - fine - you want proof fine - whatever, but I am not here to have my time wasted, but I am here and I am not going anywhere. Obviously it is important to talk about programming - I get that but I think I know what is best.

        Okay, obviously aimed at me.

        I'm going to take the high road. I'm not going to get into oneupsmanship. I'm not going to claim that my experience and opinions of compiler history is the only way to think. Your experience has been duly noted.

        You're the one doing this project so obviously you can take any approach and use any tools that you want.

        Since my presence seems to bother both of you, I'm going to piss off for a while. I will look in, maybe at Xmas, to see your results.
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        Re: Reality - Version 0.1

        Postby encode_decode » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:20 pm

          phyllo

          I apologize man . . .

          phyllo wrote:Okay, obviously aimed at me.

          I'm going to take the high road. I'm not going to get into oneupsmanship. I'm not going to claim that my experience and opinions of compiler history is the only way to think. Your experience has been duly noted.

          You're the one doing this project so obviously you can take any approach and use any tools that you want.

          Since my presence seems to bother both of you, I'm going to piss off for a while. I will look in, maybe at Xmas, to see your results.

          Sorry phyllo. Your presence most certainly does not bother me - it was not meant to come across that way - I just wanted the few things inside my head to be shared. This is not my typical way - usually I just back down. I am not trying to one up anyone. You seem to have experience too.

          Please don't piss off on my account man. I appreciate your hard ass attitude.

          You have sharpened me up quite a bit.
          I just wanted to push back a little.

          I found your input to be constructive for me.
          Just some things I do not want to get into yet.

          I know, I know, I started it . . .

          Again, my apologies for being an ass.
          And thank you phyllo . . .

          :handgestures-thumbupright:
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          (Anomaly654 - 2017)

          But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
          - which is to say there is always meaning.

          (gib - 2017)

          Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
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          Postby encode_decode » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:56 pm

            UNTAB for footnotes

            Checked one time for errors . . .

            Calculating vectors - pre-conceptual!

            Afflate ≡ Portion of the affectance field : Let N ≡ Any particular afflate in the array.

            With two arrays we are tracking many Afflates - there is a copy of each afflate in each array.

            Code: Select all
            Structure ForBothArrays ; using double-precision(represented by the .d after each variable)*
                PtA(N).d
                x(N).d
                y(N).d
                z(N).d
            EndStructure

            Speed is one clock cycle(theoretically equating to the speed of light in physical space) represented as a tic.
            Angle is randomly preset at the first moment of populating the Afflate - and updated as the "difference" between n & dn where n can be x,y or z.
            Currently void of the actual rules of engagement between Afflates.

            Each tic, n is assigned the value of dn - during the process of switching the primary(active) array over.

            <<<<< >>>>>

            We are now ready to add Ambient Density to the array.

            *We are using single-precision in the prototype.
            It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
            (Anomaly654 - 2017)

            But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
            - which is to say there is always meaning.

            (gib - 2017)

            Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
            (Myself - 2017)
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            To Do List Update

            Postby encode_decode » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:44 pm

              Task Completion as it stands today . . .

              So I have not adhered completely to the To Do list but I have managed to get quite a bit done.
              I have managed to knock three things off of the list and do a little extra.

                1 Increase the size of the Meta-Box.
              I certainly increased the size of the Meta-Box - I have increased it from 120 to 400 units.

                2 Double the Afflates processed for the larger Meta-Box.
              If I remember correctly we were processing 5000 Afflates before and now we are processing over 16000 with the larger Meta-Box. I also increased the minimum and maximum sizes of each Afflate. I am about to post a video. So instead of doubling the afflates processed, I have more than tripled them.

                3 Make some color adjustments(same amount of distinct yellow as distinct blue, with a lot of green between).
              I spent quite a bit of time on color adjustments. I have not finished yet, like everything, it is likely to be a work in progress. I want the colors perfect.

              I have also started a new version of the emulator called Prototype two - this is the version where I will be working with some rules of engagement and mapping.
              You will notice that the interface has evolved a little ready for the future of analysis as well as other experiments.

              Before I post a video I will post an image . . .
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                Prototype - 2

                Postby encode_decode » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:52 pm

                  The image shows a little more detail, simply because it is larger than the video . . .

                  Image

                  The gif video is a little slower to load because I wanted to take 10 seconds this time to show the depth. The afflate being tracked is good old 118 shown in red.
                  Apologies in advance for the loading speed.
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                    GIF of Prototype - 2

                    Postby encode_decode » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:55 pm

                      Image

                      I am going to leave the colors the way they are for the time being so that I can get through the rest of the To Do List.
                        It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
                        (Anomaly654 - 2017)

                        But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
                        - which is to say there is always meaning.

                        (gib - 2017)

                        Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
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                        Current To Do List

                        Postby encode_decode » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:56 pm

                            1 Calculate the ambient density for each individual afflate.
                            2 Toy with Afflate Scatter.
                            3 Calculate the engagement speed for each Afflate.
                            4 Consider all rules of engagement.

                          Things I will be taking a little bit of spare time with: I have been experimenting with memory and processor routines and I will be continuing along these lines. I will be further experimenting with doubling the Afflates processed for the larger Meta-Box and I will perhaps make the Meta-Box even bigger. I will continue to make more color adjustments over time(with this as my standard: same amount of distinct yellow as distinct blue, with a lot of green between).
                          It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
                          (Anomaly654 - 2017)

                          But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
                          - which is to say there is always meaning.

                          (gib - 2017)

                          Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
                          (Myself - 2017)
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                          Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                          Postby encode_decode » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:39 pm

                            This was done intentionally to highlight what we are actually looking at . . .

                            Image

                            It looks warm in there - I think I need some water.

                            :lol:
                            It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
                            (Anomaly654 - 2017)

                            But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
                            - which is to say there is always meaning.

                            (gib - 2017)

                            Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
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                            Re: GIF of Prototype - 2

                            Postby James S Saint » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:16 pm

                            encode_decode wrote:
                              Image

                              I am going to leave the colors the way they are for the time being so that I can get through the rest of the To Do List.

                                I think that coloring is fine. Although the afflates seem to be moving pretty slow.

                                Do realize that when you double the space dimensions, you require 8 times the afflates in order to maintain the same density.

                                As we proceed, the afflates will shrink in accord with their ambience. As a particle forms, they become less than pixel size near the center. So to maintain a visible field surrounding the particle, a great many afflates are needed. In my case and in order to prevent having to have too many afflates, once afflates near the center of a particle became extremely small and close together, I combined them into a single afflate with the properties of the combination. It was one of those "close enough" shortcuts so spare resources.

                                I would put next on your ToDo list, an animated visual of the field rather than the afflates. You can use the regions or center of subdivisions of the regions as the points of interest/measure, rather than afflates. The video should come out interesting.
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                                The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                                You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                                The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                                It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                                As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                                Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
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                                Re: Current To Do List

                                Postby encode_decode » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:45 pm

                                    1 Animated visual of the field.*
                                    2 Calculate the ambient density for each individual afflate.
                                    3 Toy with Afflate Scatter.
                                    4 Calculate the engagement speed for each Afflate.
                                    5 Consider all rules of engagement.

                                  *Use the regions or center of subdivisions of the regions as the points of interest/measure, rather than afflates. The video will come out interesting.

                                  Things I will be taking a little bit of spare time with: I have been experimenting with memory and processor routines and I will be continuing along these lines. I will be further experimenting with doubling the Afflates processed for the larger Meta-Box and I will perhaps make the Meta-Box even bigger. I will continue to make more color adjustments over time(with this as my standard: same amount of distinct yellow as distinct blue, with a lot of green between).
                                  It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
                                  (Anomaly654 - 2017)

                                  But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
                                  - which is to say there is always meaning.

                                  (gib - 2017)

                                  Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
                                  (Myself - 2017)
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                                  Re: Current To Do List

                                  Postby James S Saint » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:01 am

                                  encode_decode wrote:
                                      1 Animated visual of the field.*
                                      2 Calculate the ambient density for each individual afflate.
                                      3 Toy with Afflate Scatter.
                                      4 Calculate the engagement speed for each Afflate.
                                      5 Consider all rules of engagement.

                                    And your (4) should come before your (3). The scatterer uses both speed and refraction concerns - separate issues.
                                    Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
                                    Else
                                    From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

                                    The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                                    You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                                    The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                                    It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                                    As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                                    Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
                                    Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

                                    The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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                                    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                                    Postby James S Saint » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:43 pm

                                    .
                                    Note the difference in afflate speed:
                                    Image

                                    In that clip, average density for the afflates was set pretty low so that the much higher density of the forming particle could be seen more distinctly. Because the average was so low, each afflate was largely unimpeded. The speed of an unimpeded afflate is always 1 tic/toe, but on your screen, you get to choose by how many pixels a "toe" is represented. If the afflate moves too slowly across the screen, it might take a very long render and "sit-and-watch" time before anything interesting begins to happen.
                                    Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
                                    Else
                                    From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

                                    The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                                    You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                                    The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                                    It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                                    As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                                    Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
                                    Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

                                    The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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                                    Corrected To Do List

                                    Postby encode_decode » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:16 am

                                        1 Animated visual of the field.
                                        2 Calculate the ambient density for each individual afflate.
                                        3 Calculate the engagement speed for each Afflate.
                                        4 Toy with Afflate Scatter.
                                        5 Consider all rules of engagement.
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                                        Re: GIF of Prototype - 2

                                        Postby encode_decode » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:33 am

                                          An acknowledgement James

                                          James S Saint wrote:
                                          encode_decode wrote:I am going to leave the colors the way they are for the time being so that I can get through the rest of the To Do List.

                                            I think that coloring is fine. Although the afflates seem to be moving pretty slow.

                                            I am glad that you are happy with the coloring. The afflates are moving slow, this was mainly performed in order for you to recognize the depth of field Z.
                                            I was going to be talking with you about speed.

                                            James S Saint wrote:Do realize that when you double the space dimensions, you require 8 times the afflates in order to maintain the same density.

                                            Oh, I do realize that. I am glad you bring these things up however, it shows me that we are on the same page.

                                            James S Saint wrote:As we proceed, the afflates will shrink in accord with their ambience. As a particle forms, they become less than pixel size near the center. So to maintain a visible field surrounding the particle, a great many afflates are needed. In my case and in order to prevent having to have too many afflates, once afflates near the center of a particle became extremely small and close together, I combined them into a single afflate with the properties of the combination. It was one of those "close enough" shortcuts so spare resources.

                                            Right now I have the colors on a spectrum, as you have no doubt recognized - I also have the opacity changing ready for density calculations. I understand what you are saying about the afflates shrinking and we will have to discuss all of this further. We can make the afflates as small as you need them. A great many afflates is what we are going to have - right now we need to work with manageable numbers that can be repeated in larger sets. We can still take some short cuts as long as the emulator is reflective of reality - the numbers that is.

                                            James S Saint wrote:I would put next on your ToDo list, an animated visual of the field rather than the afflates. You can use the regions or center of subdivisions of the regions as the points of interest/measure, rather than afflates. The video should come out interesting.

                                            I really like this idea. You have been giving me a lot of useful material lately James, I appreciate it.

                                            Keep it coming James.

                                            8)
                                            It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
                                            (Anomaly654 - 2017)

                                            But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
                                            - which is to say there is always meaning.

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                                            Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                                            Postby encode_decode » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:41 am

                                              Our speed limit is obviously limited by the computations we can perform but we can compensate to get good results.

                                              James S Saint wrote:. Note the difference in afflate speed: In that clip, average density for the afflates was set pretty low so that the much higher density of the forming particle could be seen more distinctly. Because the average was so low, each afflate was largely unimpeded. The speed of an unimpeded afflate is always 1 tic/toe, but on your screen, you get to choose by how many pixels a "toe" is represented. If the afflate moves too slowly across the screen, it might take a very long render and "sit-and-watch" time before anything interesting begins to happen.

                                              This is probably still a good thing to hold on to as an experiment I think - it makes for good visuals of demonstration. I will put more thought into what you are saying here. Like I said, keep it coming James.

                                              I will be back with a more meaningful set of responses. I just have to think some responses up first.

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                                              Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                                              Postby encode_decode » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:39 am

                                                James

                                                I have setup a quicker system to run on - I have another quicker system still to be setup. I have also sped up the afflates - regarding density - that could be kept the same and only the afflates in the particle could be illuminated to give a higher resolution particles. I hope this makes sense.

                                                My mind has been racing with many different ideas on how to create visualizations of higher resolutions.

                                                Whether we like it or not I still feel we will be returning to interpolation on many fronts, especially when we want to visualize larger fields of affectance.

                                                I have a few shortcuts that I have been working on alongside the other things on the current list - it seems this has become necessary if I am to be ready for future updates - what we miss now might become a problem in the future.

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                                                - which is to say there is always meaning.

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                                                Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                                                Postby James S Saint » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:55 am

                                                encode_decode wrote:
                                                  James

                                                  I have setup a quicker system to run on - I have another quicker system still to be setup. I have also sped up the afflates - regarding density - that could be kept the same and only the afflates in the particle could be illuminated to give a higher resolution particles. I hope this makes sense.

                                                  Afflates need to move across the screen quickly so that they can aggregate at the center quickly. That is just a matter of how many pixels represent one toe of distance. I don't remember where mine was set, but I image somewhere around 5-10 pixels/tic would do it.

                                                  I don't know how you propose to illuminate just the aggregation, but one of the purposes of the visual is to show the natural outcome of events rather than artificially enhanced or manipulated video. With the average afflate density set pretty low, they individually become hard to see. But as a particle forms, the density always rises toward 1, full brilliance. At what could be called the "edge" of the particle, the affectance density slope rises very quickly. It shouldn't need any help becoming visually evident.

                                                  Note the slope in the density graph:



                                                  What is being seen here is the "meta-natural" edge of a particle as it aggregates (although the initiation of the particle was artificially seeded).
                                                  Image

                                                  encode_decode wrote:Whether we like it or not I still feel we will be returning to interpolation on many fronts, especially when we want to visualize larger fields of affectance.

                                                  After it is evident that free flowing afflates cause particles to behave in specific ways, the particles can become simulated. That allows for a tremendous decrease in processing times. But you have to prove the precise behavior first.

                                                  After the emulated atoms are properly proven, the atoms can become simulated leading to another huge decrease in processing time.

                                                  Once the atoms have been simulated and molecules are proven, the molecules can be simulated. That leads into the huge field of chemistry and properties of materials. And it does so with an extreme degree of accuracy .. without the formerly required physical experimentation and instrumentation (other than for verification).

                                                  Affectance ontology brings a seamless unification between physics and chemistry.
                                                  Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
                                                  Else
                                                  From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

                                                  The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                                                  You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                                                  The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                                                  It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                                                  As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                                                  Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
                                                  Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

                                                  The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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                                                  Re: GIF of Prototype - 2

                                                  Postby James S Saint » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:43 am

                                                  Image
                                                  If you will make a copy of that program except have it show the point-by-point average density from the local afflates, you should at first get a somewhat similar video, although more cubic granulated. But then there is something that I wanted to show you.

                                                  Once you have a display of the field rather than the afflates, increase the range of the random sizing from one pixel in size to the full metaspace size. You will probably have to increase the number of afflates to achieve the perfect effect, but what should happen is that you begin to see "nothing but space", because that is what it is supposed to be. The space will be green due to the colors chosen, but if there are enough afflates and the attributes are truly random, there should no longer be any discrete images. Everything will blend. And that is what real space is, a blending of all of the uncountable "afflates" headed in every possible direction, size, density, and PtA. The result is the space that you see between the stars .. or rather "don't see" because there is no discernible distinction and yet a great deal of affectance/"energy" (aka "dark matter") - invisible to the eye and instrument, yet packed with energy.

                                                  Even in outer space, you reside in a thick soup. 8)
                                                  Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
                                                  Else
                                                  From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

                                                  The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                                                  You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                                                  The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                                                  It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                                                  As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                                                  Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
                                                  Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

                                                  The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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                                                  Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                                                  Postby encode_decode » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:29 am

                                                    James

                                                    I will be resuming in depth conversation with you shortly - thank you for the last two posts.

                                                    I would dearly love to put RM, AO, MIJOT and what ever else you have up on my new network so that they can be studied and documented thoroughly - available for many years to come. The big question however is whether you would be interested in that. Would you?

                                                    I will also be putting up some polished work of my own, a conversation or two that I have had on this forum, a conversation or two that I have had on another forum and whatever else I deem worthy that is available in this big old world. Permissions are always sought first.

                                                    This is a project I have been working on for a while in the background and have had to start devoting significant time to - having RM:AO over on the network would make my life much easier. I can also preserve much of your media this way too as well as the new media that we are producing.

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                                                    (Anomaly654 - 2017)

                                                    But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
                                                    - which is to say there is always meaning.

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                                                    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                                                    Postby James S Saint » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:12 pm

                                                    encode_decode wrote:I would dearly love to put RM, AO, MIJOT and what ever else you have up on my new network so that they can be studied and documented thoroughly - available for many years to come. The big question however is whether you would be interested in that. Would you?

                                                    "New network"??
                                                    Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
                                                    Else
                                                    From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

                                                    The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                                                    You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                                                    The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                                                    It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                                                    As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                                                    Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
                                                    Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

                                                    The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
                                                    .
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                                                    Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                                                    Postby encode_decode » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:15 am

                                                      James

                                                      Just a short update. I have been spending quite a bit of time thinking about what you are saying and I think for the prototype we need to keep things small, however, the good news is I am currently working on a decision of which tech to use to initiate the official build of our project. We can still do most of the experiments on a smaller scale in the prototype.

                                                      Aside for the many good reasons to have a prototype - the best I can think of was to help me finally grasp what you were teaching me.

                                                      I believe I still have a little learning to do but I also believe I have some better methods for achieving our goals on the computer emulation.

                                                      The next post I will make will be regarding your reponse to this post and your last few excluding the new network talk(I think we have already resolved this).

                                                      :-k
                                                      It’s not that truth itself is being eroded per se, it’s that fragmental falsification appears to be increasing.
                                                      (Anomaly654 - 2017)

                                                      But the point remains that you can't get at that meaning before grasping the surface meaning
                                                      - which is to say there is always meaning.

                                                      (gib - 2017)

                                                      Mind is an ever changing dimension that is bound to reality, logic and emotion.
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                                                      Re: Reality - Version 0.1

                                                      Postby James S Saint » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:05 am

                                                      The prototype has barely begun. Currently there is no interaction within the field. The "Rules of Engagement" comprise the essence of existence and bring about the "laws of physics". Even the prototype needs basic rules of engagement so as to reveal more detail of what might be required by more finished emulators.

                                                      And feel free to copy over anything concerning the subject to whatever "network" you are talking about.
                                                      Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
                                                      Else
                                                      From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

                                                      The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

                                                      You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
                                                      The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
                                                      It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
                                                      As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

                                                      Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
                                                      Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

                                                      The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
                                                      .
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