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Postby Gloominary » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:34 am

It feels good not to work at all, or very much.
For me, the absence of work, or pain and stress, is infinitely more pleasurable and valuable than luxury.
I'd rather do nothing, or only what I feel like doing, and have nothing, than do everything, or only what I don't feel like doing, and have everything.
I'd rather have little, and make the most of it, than have a lot, and make the least of it.
Most people say work hard, play hard, but I'd say work soft, play soft.
People produce/consume too much I think.
You only need to produce/consume what you need, everything else is often more trouble than it's worth.
If more people thought like me, the world would probably be much better shape, environmentally especially.
The more people work, the more resources are extracted from the earth, and turned into arbitrary status symbols.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Dan~ » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:37 am

I agree with this idea and in the far future i plan to help facilitate a camp for people who want peace and minimalistic philosophy.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:41 am

Dan~ wrote:I agree with this idea and in the far future i plan to help facilitate a camp for people who want peace and minimalistic philosophy.

Count me in Dan, I've had similar thoughts before myself.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Dan~ » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:45 am

Gloominary wrote:
Dan~ wrote:I agree with this idea and in the far future i plan to help facilitate a camp for people who want peace and minimalistic philosophy.

Count me in Dan, I've had similar thoughts before myself.

We can become friends then many years from now we'll make it happen.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Amorphos » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:00 am

You can think of reasons to not do stuff, and then you end up with a big fat load of nothing. As I’ve been there before [no work], my advice would be to not find reasons to not do stuff.

The world wont be better imho, and is better because most people do do stuff. Stress is good! …just not toooo much of it.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:43 pm

If I wasn't so lazy, I'd be working around the clock to make robots to save people from factory labor.

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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:07 pm

Dan~ wrote:
Gloominary wrote:
Dan~ wrote:I agree with this idea and in the far future i plan to help facilitate a camp for people who want peace and minimalistic philosophy.

Count me in Dan, I've had similar thoughts before myself.

We can become friends then many years from now we'll make it happen.
If you want to know more about me we can talk in PMs and emails.

I'm sure we'll get to know each other better in the coming weeks and months.
I too would like to start some social thing based on minimalist principles.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:10 pm

I'd want to join your group, but think is I'm anti social. Interacting with humans makes me deeply uncomfortable. Even PMing people gives me anxiety.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:15 pm

Amorphos wrote:You can think of reasons to not do stuff, and then you end up with a big fat load of nothing. As I’ve been there before [no work], my advice would be to not find reasons to not do stuff.

The world wont be better imho, and is better because most people do do stuff. Stress is good! …just not toooo much of it.

In my view, doing nothing is a challenge of itself, I'm thinking of challenging myself to do and especially have even less, or else do things that're creative and healthy for myself, people and our planet, rather than things that're productive in a capitalistic or monetary sense.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:18 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:If I wasn't so lazy, I'd be working around the clock to make robots to save people from factory labor.

My destiny in life is to be a rich billionaire, to make the plans, start a charity and tell others to build the robots so I don't have to.

I would say embrace your laziness, don't do too much, don't set the bar too high, only things that're fairly easy/aren't too difficult are worth doing.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:26 pm

It sounds like you want to work hard to save others from hard work.
That's admirable.
Thing is thou we can all work a lot less right, now, individually, by cutting back on expenditures, by not competing hard with each other for jobs, by getting away with least amount of work possible, and by working with fellow employees against capitalists.
There's lots of things we can do, or not do, take the bus to work, apply for low income housing, live with others to cut back on costs...
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:32 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:I'd want to join your group, but think is I'm anti social. Interacting with humans makes me deeply uncomfortable. Even PMing people gives me anxiety.

That's okay, asocial people are fine, in fact you could say they're practicing social minimalism, by minimizing the amount of interactions they have with others, minimizing friends, family, acquaintances, associates and so on, that's part of minimalism too.
However, I think even minimalists, schizoids/avoidants need a little social interaction, and social interaction would be a lot easier with like-minded people as opposed to people who pressure them into being something they're not, or into having high standards.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Pandora » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:21 pm

Gloominary wrote:I would say embrace your laziness, don't do too much, don't set the bar too high, only things that're fairly easy/aren't too difficult are worth doing.

That's not a good way to build character...if you want one. Sure, it's easy to be a hero when you get to pick your environment, but that's not how life flows. The problem is, people are afraid to change and life often necessitates that.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:27 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:I'd want to join your group, but think is I'm anti social. Interacting with humans makes me deeply uncomfortable. Even PMing people gives me anxiety.

That's okay, asocial people are fine, in fact you could say they're practicing social minimalism, by minimizing the amount of interactions they have with others, minimizing friends, family, acquaintances, associates and so on, that's part of minimalism too.
However, I think even minimalists, schizoids/avoidants need a little social interaction, and social interaction would be a lot easier with like-minded people as opposed to people who pressure them into being something they're not, or into having high standards.


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Re: Work Stinx

Postby gib » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:27 am

Gloominary wrote:It feels good not to work at all, or very much.
For me, the absence of work, or pain and stress, is infinitely more pleasurable and valuable than luxury.
I'd rather do nothing, or only what I feel like doing, and have nothing, than do everything, or only what I don't feel like doing, and have everything.
I'd rather have little, and make the most of it, than have a lot, and make the least of it.
Most people say work hard, play hard, but I'd say work soft, play soft.
People produce/consume too much I think.
You only need to produce/consume what you need, everything else is often more trouble than it's worth.
If more people thought like me, the world would probably be much better shape, environmentally especially.
The more people work, the more resources are extracted from the earth, and turned into arbitrary status symbols.


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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:15 am

Pandora wrote:
Gloominary wrote:I would say embrace your laziness, don't do too much, don't set the bar too high, only things that're fairly easy/aren't too difficult are worth doing.

That's not a good way to build character...if you want one. Sure, it's easy to be a hero when you get to pick your environment, but that's not how life flows. The problem is, people are afraid to change and life often necessitates that.

If by character, you mean the ability to persevere, endure a lot of pain and risk, for future pleasure, reward, than yea, I won't be building a lot of character.
You don't need a lot of character in life, just enough to survive, I'm not interested in building much more character than I need.
I think making an effort, striving for what one needs is important, but striving for great wealth and riches is superfluous, and often more trouble than it's worth, not just for oneself but for the sake of nature.
After one has what they need, the idea is just really appreciate it, enjoy it and life.
Perpetual striving in my view is a sort of sickness.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:21 am

If I was going to strive for something other than what I need, I would strive to be more creative, virtuous and wise, rather than after materialism/hedonism, or being more productive solely for the sake of it.
If I was going to strive for something, it'd be to be more temperate, sober, and helping others do the same.
I'd strive to be more abstinent as opposed to more materially productive.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:22 am

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Gloominary wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:I'd want to join your group, but think is I'm anti social. Interacting with humans makes me deeply uncomfortable. Even PMing people gives me anxiety.

That's okay, asocial people are fine, in fact you could say they're practicing social minimalism, by minimizing the amount of interactions they have with others, minimizing friends, family, acquaintances, associates and so on, that's part of minimalism too.
However, I think even minimalists, schizoids/avoidants need a little social interaction, and social interaction would be a lot easier with like-minded people as opposed to people who pressure them into being something they're not, or into having high standards.


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I'd probably be happier with someone with average or mediocre looks, who actually understood and cared about me.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Pandora » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:39 am

Gloominary wrote:You don't need a lot of character in life, just enough to survive, I'm not interested in building much more character than I need.
To survive? I see, you prefer a passive life, then.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:54 pm

Reason people become millionaires is because people are impossible. I know a lot of virgin millionaires who can't get laid so they get obsessed with money because they have a plan they will finally get laid that way. My thing is, saving animals...people seem closed minded and can't listen to me, the only way I will save animals is being a millionarre.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:28 pm

Pandora wrote:
Gloominary wrote:You don't need a lot of character in life, just enough to survive, I'm not interested in building much more character than I need.
To survive? I see, you prefer a passive life, then.

When it comes to things that're more trouble than they're worth, which is a lot of things in life, more than people estimate, then yea, I'm passive.
If they're difficult to attain, and I can do without, I won't pursue them, or at least with any intensity.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:31 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Reason people become millionaires is because people are impossible. I know a lot of virgin millionaires who can't get laid so they get obsessed with money because they have a plan they will finally get laid that way. My thing is, saving animals...people seem closed minded and can't listen to me, the only way I will save animals is being a millionarre.

You don't have to become a millionaire to save animals, a poor person can make a difference.
Become an activist, or work for animal care/control.
Become a vegetarian, cut back on emissions and encourage others to do the same, etcetera, life doesn't have to be all or nothing.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:52 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Reason people become millionaires is because people are impossible. I know a lot of virgin millionaires who can't get laid so they get obsessed with money because they have a plan they will finally get laid that way. My thing is, saving animals...people seem closed minded and can't listen to me, the only way I will save animals is being a millionarre.

You don't have to become a millionaire to save animals, a poor person can make a difference.
Become an activist, or work for animal care/control.
Become a vegetarian, cut back on emissions and encourage others to do the same, etcetera, life doesn't have to be all or nothing.


Animal control? Get out here with that shit. You're worst than shitlibs...killing animals and cutting off their balls ain't how I save animal kind from the humans.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:52 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Reason people become millionaires is because people are impossible. I know a lot of virgin millionaires who can't get laid so they get obsessed with money because they have a plan they will finally get laid that way. My thing is, saving animals...people seem closed minded and can't listen to me, the only way I will save animals is being a millionarre.

You don't have to become a millionaire to save animals, a poor person can make a difference.
Become an activist, or work for animal care/control.
Become a vegetarian, cut back on emissions and encourage others to do the same, etcetera, life doesn't have to be all or nothing.


I already am vegetarian...being vegetarian is the same as not being born...It does nothing. You have to be an obnoxious vegetarian if you want any change.
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Re: Work Stinx

Postby Gloominary » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:39 am

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Gloominary wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Reason people become millionaires is because people are impossible. I know a lot of virgin millionaires who can't get laid so they get obsessed with money because they have a plan they will finally get laid that way. My thing is, saving animals...people seem closed minded and can't listen to me, the only way I will save animals is being a millionarre.

You don't have to become a millionaire to save animals, a poor person can make a difference.
Become an activist, or work for animal care/control.
Become a vegetarian, cut back on emissions and encourage others to do the same, etcetera, life doesn't have to be all or nothing.


I already am vegetarian...being vegetarian is the same as not being born...It does nothing. You have to be an obnoxious vegetarian if you want any change.

Well plants and animals don't need our help to survive, they just need us to get out of their way, and we need to get out of our own way, by becoming more ascetic/minimalist.
By animal control I didn't mean spaying/neutering, perhaps I should've used another term, I meant like helping protect species that're on the verge of extinction, thanks to us.
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