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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby UrGod » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:54 pm

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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Some Guy in History » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:59 pm

I realized that some things are literally the penis-wrinkles of eternity. When things get hard, they disappear. Come back when the pressures off, sure, but you can't rely on them to always be there.
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:39 pm

To a good extent, we are what we appear to be. After all, the beings that interact with us act with respect to us in the way that they do because of our appearance.
Naturally, the mode of perception of the perceiver determines halfway the appearance. The other half is what we project.

Evolution therefore also happens in terms of appearances.
Whether a male is seen as fit for the eggs of a female is determined by how the male appears. Hence, the mating dance, the peacocks feathers, and the wide proliferation of forms throughout the animal and plant kingdoms.

So, what we can accomplish determines on what we project.
What we can project relies on what we are.
What we do project is determined largely by what is projected to us.
Often we do not know what we are capable of projecting - and with that, what we are capable of becoming.

"Adapt to the venom"
that was what the snake told Eve,
the forbidden knowledge of how we got where we are.

Taboo, which can only be released in the daemonic reaching. This is why we do what we do as a species, why we build what we build and make it so big and dangerous. It has nothing to do with what we would be able to make use of, even less what is necessarily to our benefit, it simply follows from the fact that can't possibly do anything besides create beyond ourselves, and this terrifies us now, and thus this building is suffused with terrible motives and dank tastes.

Capitalistic growth is the same as militaristic proliferation, and all of it is necessary for us to not go insane. Unless or until an earthly logos is found.
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Keleuthis » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:40 am

Venom.

Something can cause intoxication either by adding or taking something away, in the later cause the rest of the organism has to complete reorganize itself and find a new center- that kind of intoxication is even more powerful. I wonder which the Apple did?
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:59 pm

Keleuthis wrote:Venom.

Something can cause intoxication either by adding or taking something away, in the later cause the rest of the organism has to complete reorganize itself and find a new center- that kind of intoxication is even more powerful. I wonder which the Apple did?

Ha. Congratulations on coming up with a meaningful question about the Bible.

It took away.
For knowledge to exist in a tree form, a hierarchy (one comes to know this through that), there must first be unknown things.

So paradise was lost.

Thinking about the logo, apple with a bite from it, I see a picture of the same process: she bites the full apple, knows its value through tasting it, but then finds herself with an crescent apple. To which apple does the taste belong?

Intoxication from taking away is more potent, it drives man to accomplish things he would normally not see necessary or possible. The form that adds, like given by MDMA, subsumes the directionally of the psyche, which when regularly submitted to such stimuli dissolves entirely, and leaves a willess being. Which doesn't mean it can't value - it just lost the capacity to value more than it already has.

Hm. Maybe that isn't so bad for some people.
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Some Guy in History » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:13 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:To a good extent, we are what we appear to be.


I appear to be better than everyone and everything around me.
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:40 am

Some Guy in History wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:To a good extent, we are what we appear to be.


I appear to be better than everyone and everything around me.

At least you have a historical conscience. That does wipe away most.

I found this passage, which is basically what I had to go through after I had VO but not yet the means, worldly and psychic, to

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Attempts to escape nihilism without revaluating our values so far: they
produce the opposite, make the problem more acute.

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The ways of self-narcotization . --Deep down: not knowing whither.
Emptiness. Attempt to get over it by intoxication intoxication as music;
intoxication as cruelty in the tragic enjoyment of the destruction of
the noblest; intoxication as blind enthusiasm for single human beings or
ages (as hatred, etc.) .--Attempt to work blindly as an instrument of
science: opening one's eyes to the many small enjoyments; e. g., also in
the guest of knowledge (modesty toward oneself); resignation to
generalizing about oneself, a pathos; mysticism, the voluptuous
enjoyment of eternal emptiness; art "for its own sake" ("le fait") and
"pure knowledge" as narcotic states of disgust with oneself; some kind
or other of continual work, or of some stupid little fanaticism; a
medley of all means, sickness owing to general immoderation (debauchery
kills enjoyment) .

1. Weakness of the will as a result.

2. Extreme pride and the humiliation of petty weakness felt in contrast.
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:51 am

Cause this is what Nietzsche "overlooked" - or merely introduced, here and there, by a tantalizing remark about "Masters of the Earth".
Of course I do not see myself our ourselves as such. But I do see myself as necessarily having to move toward such an aim as human mastery of the Earth, because that is where everything lies that is not wretched.

The lowest expression of humanity is the Stephen Hawkin type leave-mongering, that we will soon because of some nonsensical singularity of doom have to be able to leave earth to survive. What do we matter? What do we matter if the Earth perishes under our hands?
Human greatness is in a return to the Earth. Earth is dirty, funky.

Philosophy is for people who know to get their hands dirty along with their minds. Just like crime, philosophy is before the law. But unlike crime, philosophy sets laws with an eye beyond physical self interest - this has led to the assumption that philosophy is not itself desirous of material wealth.

A minor slipup in the translation from Athens to Europe, a pinnacle of wholesomeness and wealth that produced thinkers who took this wealth as their beings, as the basis for their arguments - to a slushy no-go-hole where thinkers have to beg for life at the courts of despots. Socrates is of course the portal, the transition, the dweller on the threshold. The devil, basically.
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Some Guy in History » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:40 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
Some Guy in History wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:To a good extent, we are what we appear to be.


I appear to be better than everyone and everything around me.

At least you have a historical conscience. That does wipe away most.


To be fair, this is what some would call 'making excuses for others.'
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:50 pm

Some Guy in History wrote:To be fair, this is what some would call 'making excuses for others.'

I.... guess... yes/no.... or.

Ill patiently wait for your next intelligible post.
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:55 pm

Some Guy in History wrote:
To be fair, this is what some would call 'making excuses for others.'

I just realized you had stopped reading after the first sentence.
Respond more slowly, guy. Self-control produces better highs.
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Some Guy in History » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:58 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
Some Guy in History wrote:
To be fair, this is what some would call 'making excuses for others.'

I just realized you had stopped reading after the first sentence.
Respond more slowly, guy. Self-control produces better highs.


Actually, I always read the full of what people say. It used to be a bad habit of mine not to. I often respond to what they say as I read it, but that's turned out to be good practice since their minds and moods, like mine, change as they type. I've noticed that others will bypass what I say for the tone of it, so I try to actually read what others say and to give quality responses, because I generally and usually want quality responses to what I post. I only responded to the first sentence because it was the only part of it that I needed to respond to. The rest was nothing that required any response on my part, to seemingly reiterate and yet say something different than the sentence before this one. What should I have responded to the rest with in the scope of what we were momentarily discussing? Mind reigning in your ego?
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Jakob » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:55 am

Yeah I mind, very much.





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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Jakob » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:47 pm

My first formal affirmation of the Eternal Recurrence of the Same; my first biting off the head of the adder.

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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:34 pm

With predicting the advent of nihilism, Nietzsche was the first to short the stock of humanity. All that followed was people buying into the downtrend, and what we are left with is the total flatline of humanity with the animal values as the highest, infinitely high compared to what we've done to our sold out selves.

Now, the smart play is to buy, while it's cheap.

First one to predict the uptrend was a Nietzschean, Camus.

1936

"And look here how they moo: I am immoralist.
Translation: I need to give myself a morality.
Own up to it, imbecile. Me, too"

Hence, the logic of valuing. I am your broker.

Hehh.
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Odin owns me though.

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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby UrGod » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:18 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:With predicting the advent of nihilism, Nietzsche was the first to short the stock of humanity. All that followed was people buying into the downtrend, and what we are left with is the total flatline of humanity with the animal values as the highest, infinitely high compared to what we've done to our sold out selves.

Now, the smart play is to buy, while it's cheap.

First one to predict the uptrend was a Nietzschean, Camus.

1936

"And look here how they moo: I am immoralist.
Translation: I need to give myself a morality.
Own up to it, imbecile. Me, too"

Hence, the logic of valuing. I am your broker.

Hehh.
***Ashkenazi caricature***

Odin owns me though.

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Hahahaha. Daymn.

Yes.

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Or,


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Don't wait till the end of no bell
Don't wait like you till others see
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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Jakob » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:51 pm

Hail. So that the World Tree can Rise from the Ash...

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Re: The Grand Scheme

Postby Jakob » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:47 pm

VO literally demands Master Morality.
Slaves literally cannot understand VO.
This is totally logically inevitable, as existence itself isn't slavish, and per VO, moral slaves don't actually exist.

So all you people who do not grasp what I mean with self-valuing, just assume it's not meant for you.
VO will still be benefitted from your discussing it, but you yourselves will not. Really, just check your life the past few years. See how it sucked. Or did VO lift you up even despite your disability before it?

Share your experience. You won't be judged.

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