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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:50 pm

Magnus Anderson wrote:It's physically impossible to like this tune. Unless, of course, you first deceive yourself into thinking that you like it. Now, I don't know the exact point in your life when you started to lie to yourself that you like what is physically impossible to like, but the fact is, you don't really like it, you just pretend that you do.


Fixed may become confused by about what I'm about to say, so it needs some clarification.
Fixed may say something along the lines of it being physically possible to like this tune. But what isn't noticing is that the tune he likes, isn't actually the tune that is on display. His mind is twisting and adding things to the tune, to force himself to like it. It is not physically possible for a healthy human brain to like a repeated 4/4 measure that repeats every few seconds, so his mind and twists and warps what he hears - in essence, he is not hearing the same thing we are, but a deluded and mentally modified version of it.

This also connects back to the woman and lies, MagsJ did not make a deliberate effort to lie about the music, but she is simply not being totally conscious of her own mind, hiding from inward knowledge of herself, and this is what is meant by how she lies.

For instance, when I was a teenager, I was molested by boys, said I didn't like it, complained that they would stop, yet I would get aroused and then fantasize about it later that night. I was lying to myself and lying to them, I was hidden separated from my own mind and true desires, I never made the connection that I actually liked it, I wasn't deliberately lying to them, when I said I didn't like it it was my honest reaction.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:53 pm

I feel like this whole thread is some elaborate ruse to trick us into being "bamboozled", like how in Batman other criminals try to bamboozle the Joker, except in this case, Joker was not the target of the bamboozlement, Trixie was, but Trixie is basically the main villain of ILP, so I guess it makes sense to play the gag on them. So, Fixed' music sucks, he knows it sucks, and this thread was just bait to get us to make a fuss of it, case is closed. I mean, Philosophy is Friendship was a nice touch because he knew it would bait me to click on it.

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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby MagsJ » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:00 pm

I know whether I do or do not like a tune.. not the hardest (pun intended in this case) decision I've ever had to make.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Sauwelios » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:07 pm

HaHaHa wrote:
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Maniacal Mongoose wrote:Gawd, Satyr's material of days gone by. Herd, swine, blah, blah, blah. Thank him for his tutelage. Chapter 2, specimens, mining for gems covered by filth, blah, blah, blah.


Spare us your swine logic, please. We were never "tutored" by so-called Satyr.

Joker and Solarley Quinn, a match made in Heaven...


The text book prolific Nietzschean has spoken!

Sauwelios your posts are such a bore and everytime I read them it is clear you can't think on your own without referencing somebody else's thoughts. It is clear that you have no original thoughts of your own.


Ironically, that's just you repeating the easiest--and most superficial--charge leveled against me (because I'm not afraid to quote, to appear "unoriginal" to the mediocre--and because I _can_ quote so well, having a great memory and a great mind to make connections. As Heraclitus says, "Thinking connects all"...).

Anyway, my reply to jerkey consisted entirely of my own original thoughts--which, however, is not to say I was the first to have them, of course... (My reply to Lardy Quinn was just pointing out that her implied argument was invalid and its conclusion false. I wish you two all the best, by the way, as long as it isn't to the detriment of your superiors.)

I'm sure these explications must be profoundly boring to you!
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Magnus Anderson » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:42 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Fixed may say something along the lines of it being physically possible to like this tune. But what isn't noticing is that the tune he likes, isn't actually the tune that is on display. His mind is twisting and adding things to the tune, to force himself to like it. It is not physically possible for a healthy human brain to like a repeated 4/4 measure that repeats every few seconds, so his mind and twists and warps what he hears - in essence, he is not hearing the same thing we are, but a deluded and mentally modified version of it.

This also connects back to the woman and lies, MagsJ did not make a deliberate effort to lie about the music, but she is simply not being totally conscious of her own mind, hiding from inward knowledge of herself, and this is what is meant by how she lies.

For instance, when I was a teenager, I was molested by boys, said I didn't like it, complained that they would stop, yet I would get aroused and then fantasize about it later that night. I was lying to myself and lying to them, I was hidden separated from my own mind and true desires, I never made the connection that I actually liked it, I wasn't deliberately lying to them, when I said I didn't like it it was my honest reaction.


Do you have a penis, Trixie? Or rather, were you born with one? If so, then it is not natural for you to be aroused by other men molesting you. It does not matter what you feel. Feelings are a superficial aspect. What matters is the ground upon which your feelings are based. Considering that you were born a male, it is not natural for you to have such feelings. Masculine energy forbids such feelings. The fact that you have such feelings is a sign that you have lost the connection to your masculine energy. It's no longer flowing through your body.

Pretension does not simply mean "absence of feelings". What it really means is "shallow feelings".

It's rather difficult to convince yourself that you like something merely by twisting your spontaneous feelings. What is easier is to simply lower your standards. And how does one lower one's standards? By forgetting. The less memory you have, the more superficial your judgment is.

We can only guess why Fixed and his friend with benefit Pezer enjoy steady four-to-the-floor. We must first take into account that they are druggies. When you are on drugs, everything is great. It must be the case, I believe, that drugs mess up with your memory. Everything looks more fresh when you take drugs.

Ecstasy is a popular choice, and ecstasy increases empathy, which is to say, it makes people more friendly. If we accept the premise that philosophy is friendship, it follows that E is a necessary part of becoming a great philosopher. But I am straying away . . .

I believe that most club-goers have very short attention spans. This is why they enjoy steady four-to-the-floor beat. By the time they hit the next beat, they already forgot the previous one, so every time it's a new beat for them. Moreover, because they forget almost instantly, they cannot stand anything slower than 140 BPM. That explains their tastes pretty well.

Now, MagsJ . . . what is there to say about her? It does not really matter whether she has feelings or not. The point is that her feelings are shallow, thus, not exactly real.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Meno_ » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:53 pm

Some dance to remember, some dance to forget.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:54 pm

But, this is exceptionally bad, even compared to EDM.

MagsJ probably just had the old knee-jerk, didn't want to hurt Fixed's sensitive feelings, so she said it was good.

I cannot remember the first day he molested me. All I can observe is that judging from modern social interactions, females do not seem to be terribly into penis. For instance, there was a Woman on the YoungTurksShow who was discussing sex. She told him, "You can have sex with me, but [your penis], I don't want to see it." It seems women of this day are more or less motherly, asexual, not really desiring of sex or sexual encounters. That is, until you break them in.

Typically what I see on television, is a male flirting with a female, female is at first indignant, then over time, comes to terms with her own sexuality, and gives in. However, what happened with me happened a bit differently, as I was taught that such things were wrong and a sin, as well as fear of social perception, and so I hid my feelings to myself and denied him for longer than I should have. The story has a sad ending, once I finally accepted his love, he told me that it was all a joke, that he never loved me, and did it all just to hurt my feelings.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Magnus Anderson » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:08 pm

We are powerless against the force of forgetfulness.

He can simply ignore us and just "forget about it".

Or he can get a hug from Pezer.

Or he can seek approval from other druggies.

Lost cause he is ):
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:00 pm

Lardy Quinn? :sleeping-sleeping: Zonker! Wah, woh, woh! If you had a sense of humor I'd play, but nah, no point.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Sauwelios » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:08 pm

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:Lardy Quinn? :sleeping-sleeping: Zonker! Wah, woh, woh! If you had a sense of humor I'd play, but nah, no point.


That's actually a term of endearment.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Meno_ » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:24 pm

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:Lardy Quinn? :sleeping-sleeping: Zonker! Wah, woh, woh! If you had a sense of humor I'd play, but nah, no point.




Oh, limitations. High degrees of senses of humor are usually covers for something unadmittedly sad.
Whereas memory failings are merely the unfortunate
byproduct of something even more awful, like autism through intelligence. Wonder why this is why the failing notion that opposites attract?

Or is the whole idea of opposites a misnomer, and that is really funny.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:58 pm

Why do the now lurking philosopher kings need my attention at all? Tell me Sowilos since you adore me, am I hit worthy?

Jerk, I do what I can so the world is not so sad, admittedly.
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I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Meno_ » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:04 pm

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:Why do the now lurking philosopher kings need my attention at all? Tell me Sowilos since you adore me, am I hit worthy?

Jerk, I do what I can so the world is not so sad, a
dmittedly.


Not at all. The only thing is, not to see feelings as sort of cut off, from the other parts, no I am innately fearful of hurting anyone. That's all. I am too new here, not to appreciate a modicum of humor in everything. Please appreciate that. And I am sure I speak for any other sceptics around here.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Sauwelios » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:03 pm

"Blessed are they who have a taste, even if it be a bad taste." (Nietzsche, from heart.)

I most certainly have a sense of humour, and the question is what makes it good or bad, great or petty...
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:33 pm

*snoring*

My oh my, so well brewed, yet still a beer.

:gay-imgay: Are you that funny? :confusion-shrug:
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:49 pm

Turdmonger,

Hopefully you're making bank, friend of philosophy. Beloved wit, so missed.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Sauwelios » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:34 pm

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:*snoring*

My oh my, so well brewed, yet still a beer.

:gay-imgay: Are you that funny? :confusion-shrug:


This is not funny, just neurotic.

When philosophy is all about the "lulz", Turd with his fifty shades of brown is naturally considered more colourful than yours truly.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby MagsJ » Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:32 pm

Magnus Anderson wrote:If we accept the premise that philosophy is friendship, it follows that E is a necessary part of becoming a great philosopher. But I am straying away . . .
Many members here equate some form of drug taking with philosophical epiphanies, but are those epiphanies grounded in reality when they are created elsewhere?

Now, MagsJ . . . what is there to say about her? It does not really matter whether she has feelings or not. The point is that her feelings are shallow, thus, not exactly real.
:lol:

You have created a whole story around my liking one tune.. Pezer's tune, and now you are deeming me shallow and fake?

Tell me about the drug scene I'm in and the music I dance to? then I'll give you my version of my scene.

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:But, this is exceptionally bad, even compared to EDM.

MagsJ probably just had the old knee-jerk, didn't want to hurt Fixed's sensitive feelings, so she said it was good.
What is EDM?

Why lie to spare another's feelings when one could say nothing at all?
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby MagsJ » Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:41 pm

Sauwelios wrote:
Maniacal Mongoose wrote:*snoring*

My oh my, so well brewed, yet still a beer.

:gay-imgay: Are you that funny? :confusion-shrug:


This is not funny, just neurotic.

When philosophy is all about the "lulz", Turd with his fifty shades of brown is naturally considered more colourful than yours truly.

Nietzschean or other.. can't we all just.. get along?

I feel like I'm in the middle of a turf war akin to Westside Story or Romeo and Juliet (only without the forbidden love part).
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Magnus Anderson » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:26 pm

EDM stands for [e]lectronic [d]ance [m]usic. It's a catch all phrase for club music (that is electronic, I suppose, as if there is club music that is not electronic.)

Very popular in Europe, especially in Netherlands, which is the land of EDM. Less popular in America, which I believe is dominated by rap music (if not by Lady Gaga.) Rap too is part of EDM, but for the purpose of this thread, we are excluding it.

What do you "listen" to when you go out clubbing, MagsJ?
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby MagsJ » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:15 pm

I like dance music.. but not necessarily the electronic kind, but I'm not averse to it.. I need to hear a melodic voice along with my music, which the European version seems to lack.

I've been to big clubs a few times.. when forced by friends, but I prefer boutique clubs with a 200 capacity.. give or take.. where they tend to play a heady mix of rap, UK hip hop, dance, grime, 80s, disco, and RnB all in one night, but I tend to like my music more off-key and less mainstream.

..but I'm far too old for clubbing so these days I tend to frequent professional networking events, political drinks events, sporting events, music festivals, brunch events, etc. but if they happen to turn into a lit late night party.. I ain't complaining ;)

I have been known to grace the floors of the highest end adult parties in Town, but they make mine eyes and moral compass hurt, so I only go to their tamer cabaret and canapes drinks events.. where if people want to hook up they go home and do that and not in front of everyone. :shock:
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:04 pm

Magnus Anderson wrote:The more friends you have, the greater philosopher you are.


:-k Why?!
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
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“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience


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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:54 pm

Sowilos,

Neurotic is oodles better than necrotic. An attempt at a light hearted exchange has been circumvented by more profundity minus the fun. "Uncle!" Cried MM.
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Magnus Anderson » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:39 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
Magnus Anderson wrote:The more friends you have, the greater philosopher you are.


:-k Why?!


Because Jakob is "the most powerful intellect in the room". Whatever he says is true.

Money + friends = philosophy
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Re: Philosophy is Friendship

Postby Magnus Anderson » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:41 pm

MagsJ wrote:I like dance music.. but not necessarily the electronic kind, but I'm not averse to it.. I need to hear a melodic voice along with my music, which the European version seems to lack.


There you go. You need to hear a melodic voice along with your music. But there is neither melody nor voice in Pezer's masterpiece. This is why you're suspicious. This + the fact that you don't know what EDM it. You cannot possibly be into EDM without first knowing how to define it.

You are also wrong when you say that European dance music seems to lack melodic voice. In fact, only European dance music can possibly have any melody to it. Dutchmen even went so far to invent a breakdown phase during which a long melody is played while everyone is doing nothing but holding their hands in the air.
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