For Fixed Cross: Logic as self-value.

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Re: For Fixed Cross: Logic as self-value.

Postby Orbie » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:28 am

Aidon wrote:Have you read my EO philosophy?
Emotional Ontology, I calls it.
I assert, and argue, that being is existing and all is self-loving.















Hate is the nil and love is the one.


Your assertions and arguments do not quite coincide innselfmloving. The Averroes arguments leave one to believe it's more like Being and Existence beget the Essence of things.
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Re: For Fixed Cross: Logic as self-value.

Postby Orbie » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:37 am

Correction. The Muslim philosopher was Avicenna.
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Re: For Fixed Cross: Logic as self-value.

Postby Historyboy » Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:29 pm

Value Philosophy: First philosophy is the positing of the metaphysics one values the most.


"Every valuing is a sign of ones physiology" ~ N
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: For Fixed Cross: Logic as self-value.

Postby Sauwelios » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:12 pm

Here's an improved translation of the passage quoted in my OP:

"For philosophy, Kant's knowledge that reason only has insight into what it itself brings forth in accordance with its design can, if finite reason is historical, only mean that thinking, in an ever-revolving change, makes its own designing of the design the object of its knowledge. If the knowledge however is to be true nonetheless, then absolute spirit must manifest itself in every finite form of reason. For a thinking which radically carries out the change of consciousness, the self-knowledge of reason in the act of its designing becomes a 'phenomenology of spirit', that is to say a doctrine of the forms in which the absolute essence of spirit appears as finite. Now Nietzsche carries out a change which puts into question even the fundamental presupposition of Hegel's: that the absolute in and for itself is already with us. Kant's doctrine 'that reason only has insight into what it itself brings forth in accordance with its design' is taken so radically that it now comes to light how reason itself has been brought forth in history by man, in accordance with his own design. The force which brings forth and determines both reason and the principle of identity that constitutes it bears the name 'the will to power'. Thinking, knowing and acting is now interpreted out of the historic carrying-out of designing, that is to say out of value-determination. Whereas in Kant the apriority of reason is condition of the possibility of designing, through the change carried out by Nietzsche the design becomes the condition of the possibility of reason." (Picht, Nietzsche, pp. 71-72, my translation.)
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Re: For Fixed Cross: Logic as self-value.

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:18 pm

Excellent.
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Re: For Fixed Cross: Logic as self-value.

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:53 pm

The condition of reason is conditioned in the same way as the condition of man -
indeed valuing, valued-ness and value are the environment in which any species of activity exists.

This is what species are - activity-types.
Not types of objects, unless an activity is an object.

In this way it is easier to see how there are various different species of humanity.

I like the elegance of the implication of the last posts together, which is that ones physics (physiology) determines ones choice in metaphysics. Which in turns determines ones view on physics - and on oneself.
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Re: For Fixed Cross: Logic as self-value.

Postby UrGod » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:42 am

Kant and Hegel demonstrate why sometimes it is not so good to have a high IQ.
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