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Postby askewd » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:49 pm

Hello there, I need some help....

I have opened my mouth and forgotten how to close it again. I am getting funny looks and starting to feel a little bit silly now.

Can somebody tell me how to close my mouth?

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Postby Geist » Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:37 pm

Stop taking ecstacy.
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Postby askewd » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:40 pm

:D

ok, Ill get to the point.

What is it that I have to do in order to make my body do something? I mean, it's easy to say "you just do it" but what is it that we do?

To shut my mouth, or open it, or move my hands or run faster... i guess there must be a preceding thought? I sit here looking at my finger and it doesn't move... till I do something that moves it. What is this something that I am doing? Of course my brain is firing a signal down to my finger but if the signal is a compared to a bullet, and the brain represents a gun, something still has to pull the trigger in the first place.
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Postby Uccisore » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:40 pm

I would say that the root, primary thing you do to make your finger move is decide that you want to move it. Choosing is what converts possibilities into actualities in this case.
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Postby xanderman » Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:42 pm

What moves your finger is one of those non-verbal thoughts, as it were. It is, by its very nature, difficult to talk about in common speech or even in the high speech of philosophy.

On the other hand the bio-chemical activity of your brain sending a signal for a muscle to move has been well observed and described in studies of neuroanatomy and physiology.
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Postby Pinnacle of Reason » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:39 am

here we are talking about the origin of thought. which i don't think has been revealed yet.
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Postby Rami » Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:12 am

That's why mind and body are somehow connected
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Postby Pinnacle of Reason » Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:38 am

We are all speculating again.
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Postby GateControlTheory » Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:53 am

Pinnacle of Reason wrote:We are all speculating again.


Well, if we limited all discusions to just that which is universally known to be absolutely, verifiably, objectively true the list would be this long
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Postby Pinnacle of Reason » Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:07 am

lol GCT

I am just saying people in this thread should not expect to receive a definate answer.
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Postby Impenitent » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:23 am

if you give sufficient electrical charge to the proper group of neurons in your brain, your mouth will close... moreover, if you stimulate the particular muscle directly with an electrical charge, your mouth will likewise close... or you could take an even simpler route, and put your head in a vice...

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Postby Pinnacle of Reason » Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:34 am

Impenitent,

the problem is. where does the electric current come from?
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Postby askewd » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:30 pm

people in this thread should not expect to receive a definate answer


Every definate answer (is there such a thing?) came as a result of people thinking and discussing... like this. If we only discuss things that are already known as definate, what's the point of discussing them ;) I just like sharing other peoples ideas and adding them to my own picture of "what is".

Seems like in all cases, thoughts precedes result.

is 'all' a result of thought?

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Postby Impenitent » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:23 pm

Pinnacle of Reason wrote:Impenitent,

the problem is. where does the electric current come from?


anyplace...

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What's the difference between a liberal and Al Qaeda?
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"False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." (Thomas Jefferson)

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Postby secondcome » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:01 pm

Impenitent wrote:
Pinnacle of Reason wrote:Impenitent,

the problem is. where does the electric current come from?


anyplace...

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Why did it come from "anyplace"?
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Postby magisterludi » Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:43 pm

don't worry, slack-jawed drooling idiots are welcome here
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Postby Pinnacle of Reason » Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:29 am

By no definate answer I mean we have not known all the facts to a case. so it's foolish to try to start drawing conclusions.
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Postby SeanBob » Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:17 pm

You should read up on your Bruce Lee...

Every action comes from a reaction. When someone hits you (for example) you react. A true master can react without thinking about it. "And when it is time to hit, I do not hit...it hits all by itself."

If there was no action would you react? huh...let me go ponder
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Postby askewd » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:16 pm

I can see that this is going to end up at the question of the "first cause" isn't it.

Well what is currently the "favourite" theory with regards to that then?

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Postby Impenitent » Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:12 pm

secondcome wrote:
Impenitent wrote:
Pinnacle of Reason wrote:Impenitent,

the problem is. where does the electric current come from?


anyplace...

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Why did it come from "anyplace"?


because closing the mouth (moving any muscle in the body) is a mechanical process which can be effected by outside influences...

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What's the difference between a liberal and Al Qaeda?
Oh, you don't know either?

"False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." (Thomas Jefferson)

"Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus" -Eco
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Postby askewd » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:32 pm

because closing the mouth (moving any muscle in the body) is a mechanical process which can be effected by outside influences...


Outside of what?

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Postby Impenitent » Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:48 pm

outside of that which usually closes the mouth...

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What's the difference between a liberal and Al Qaeda?
Oh, you don't know either?

"False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." (Thomas Jefferson)

"Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus" -Eco
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Postby xanderman » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:19 am

Electricity makes muscles move. I think, gentlemen, that we can all agree that Dr. Frankenstein's experiments already clearly demonstrated this. :D
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Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:58 am

Impenitent wrote:
Pinnacle of Reason wrote:Impenitent,

the problem is. where does the electric current come from?


anyplace...

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