Ravening against wisdom; what an offense to sound sense.

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Ravening against wisdom; what an offense to sound sense.

Postby Guide » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:48 pm

It does seem, one who learns Socrates' bent will be utterly struck by its withering simplicity. Who would not be good at a thing, who had once got the knack of it? For instance, at swinging in golf, and striking the ball to the hole. What misery for the wretch without sound technique. Ergo, who can deny Socrates' holding, that is, that to not know is the only thing that makes us bad. What bliss to follow right learning, and to have learned what is teachable! Such is the holy zeal of wisdom.

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Re: Ravening against wisdom; what an offense to sound sense.

Postby lordoflight » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:44 pm

Quality not quantity. Better to learn only a few things than learn a bunch of stuff you have no use for. Ie. American schools.
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Re: Ravening against wisdom; what an offense to sound sense.

Postby Guide » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:39 pm

However, these are metaphors (above). Since Socrates had in mind learning how to live on the whole. Which is not a matter of quantity or quality.

Useless information, as you indicate, is another matter beside from the primary issue:

Is there any more benefit in knowing this than to know that the Aventine Hill is outside the pomerium, according to him, for one of two reasons: either because that was the rallying point for the plebeians in secession from Rome, or because the birds had not been propitious when Remus took the auspices there; and to know countless other items besides that are either crammed with lies or improbable? For even if you grant that people say all these things in good faith, and even if they guarantee the truthfulness of their writing, whose mistakes will such items of information make fewer? Whose passions will they hold in check? Whom will they make braver, or more just, or more generous of spirit? My friend Fabianus used to say that he sometimes wondered whether it was better to apply oneself to no researches at all than to be embroiled in these.


Seneca the Younger

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Re: Ravening against wisdom; what an offense to sound sense.

Postby gib » Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:27 am

Again with the insults to Meno!
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Re: Ravening against wisdom; what an offense to sound sense.

Postby lordoflight » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:18 pm

Guide wrote:However, these are metaphors (above). Since Socrates had in mind learning how to live on the whole. Which is not a matter of quantity or quality.

Useless information, as you indicate, is another matter beside from the primary issue:

Is there any more benefit in knowing this than to know that the Aventine Hill is outside the pomerium, according to him, for one of two reasons: either because that was the rallying point for the plebeians in secession from Rome, or because the birds had not been propitious when Remus took the auspices there; and to know countless other items besides that are either crammed with lies or improbable? For even if you grant that people say all these things in good faith, and even if they guarantee the truthfulness of their writing, whose mistakes will such items of information make fewer? Whose passions will they hold in check? Whom will they make braver, or more just, or more generous of spirit? My friend Fabianus used to say that he sometimes wondered whether it was better to apply oneself to no researches at all than to be embroiled in these.


Seneca the Younger

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I would say Meno is the opposite, mostly emotion with reason hidden and buried if you don't have access to his internal decoding script.
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Re: Ravening against wisdom; what an offense to sound sense.

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:55 pm

Guide wrote:Gigantic morons, such as "Meno", are kindly requested not to interfere with or to hinder the activity of this thread.
There is a function where you can put posters on 'foe'. Then you do not see their posts. Why not take responsibilily for what you experience and is in your power to avoid and stop insulting Meno.
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