Only_Humean wrote:fuse wrote:Only_Humean wrote:Given that criminalisation only applies to extreme incitement, it's fair to say that much of the discourse that's regulated by it is the sort of discourse that is already pretty impoverished, though, isn't it?
I've followed Peterson for some time now, and nothing I've seen him say can be construed as extreme incitement. Yet, he has come close to losing his job, still may yet, and, by the University's own account, he could be tried through the courts and Human Rights Tribunals. Shutting down a voice like Peterson's is exactly the sort of impoverishment of public discourse I'm talking about.
I'm talking about criminalisation; you can of course lose your job or face a tribunal over all sorts of non-criminal activity. If your colleague Tom decides he'd rather be called Tina and addressed as a female, why do you feel that as a burdensome legal obligation rather than a matter of courtesy?
Wyld wrote:How about this:
You have a right to do what you want to your genitals, and I have a right to call you a fucking retard and psychotic weirdo for doing it.
I think we can all live with that.
fuse wrote:Perhaps not criminalization (although I haven't thoroughly looked into all of the relevant legal code), but still a high price to pay for say having an academic disagreement about gender identity theory as it becomes enshrined in law. Look if at this point in our conversation you think this is simply about reserving the right to be an asshole to people, I don't know what I can say to complicate that view for you.
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:The world is fucking insane.
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:The world is insane.
40 years ago, they wouldnt hire transgenders and it was illegal to be transgender.
Nowadays, its illegal to bully or insult a transgender even on accident.
The world is fucking insane.
When will we just be reasonable and just hire people based on their ability to do a job?
I would even hire a woman or a nigger if she or the nigger could do the job right.
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