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The oaths is what made it so ridiculous and what finds me again at this crossroads of honor and dishonor.
What’s been said has been said, it is the truth. But not all is lost. P did direct a short, and helped initiated a project that caused some good practice and memorable images.
Life is ultimately dry like this - I wanted to see how far the idea of philosophical politics could stretch that and produce an unreasonable, truly willed result.
I take what is given now as my well-deserved take, after all is said and done.
– We are each of us the hunter and the hunted - self-feasters, self-fleers.
Insanity’s abyss lurks even within the rational mind; and as consciousness expands, so too the war between the inhering dark chthonic forces and the Olympian light intensifies.
This is why consciousness is normally closed down, and blinkered - one’s back is deliberately turned on ‘the war that one is’.
Stupidity is cowardice.
Dionysos was portrayed by the Greeks as an alien force irrupting into the Hellenic; and yet he was in reality as Greek as Apollo [if not more so].
Wilful increase of Vision is therefore tantamount to a terrifying and unwanted invitation to madness.
A Madness which gatecrashes Vision and makes inevitable the subsequent struggle to expel its dark insanity.
A blacknesse which threatens to blight the light of Vision; a blacknesse borne of the Self.
So I say we must fight against Dionysos just as we must fight against the Negroid invasion of Aryan lands.
Why then did Nietzsche identify himself with Dionysos?
Simply because the Apollonian forces had become to prevalent themselves.
Too much light; to much reason; sane all-too sane.
But we live in a different age; an age of madness.
We live in the age of the White Negro.
We live in an all-too Dionysian age.
We live in the midst of a Bacchic maelstrom.
Blood crazed Maenads are everywhere, tearing us limb from limb.
The black snake’s venom threatens to poison and muddy our golden blood.
Therefore we must look - not to Dionysos - but to Apollo.
We must be disciples of the Delphic god once more.
This is the ‘truth’ that my ‘dark night of the soul’ gave me.
Ptah! –
- Bill
I value not the referral to the black race - I truly am not a racist in this sense - but the reversal, of too much Apollo to too much Dionysus. I agree that the modern age is characterized thereby. Spectacle films are a good example, and so is porn, of how Dionysos is aided by Apollo, served to a degree that is quite humiliating for the god of order and restraint. Nazi Germany was clearly a seductive evocation of Apollo, but paradoxically it used Dionysos to mobilize force to such an exuberant degree that the order could not stand. Here, the order was again to become the victim of a monstrous Wotanic assault, Wotan and Dionysos both gods of becoming.
So what rises a real Apollinic order despite the monstrous chaos that will continue to rule the world forever and ever more? What instance of brilliance may tame the monster and raise it on its hind legs?
This shall be the “Uebermensch”, the tamed titan, the monster of humankind bent to a stake of will that is not lofty but simply not insane; loftiness may be addressed at a later stage…
To tame man, to make the mind of man not weaker, nor his passions duller, but to make the passions enter the mind voluntarily…
there is much talk of harmonizing and synchronizing the cerebral hemispheres. There is little talk of the methods.
Why one may ask and the answer will be given.
[tab]In method is standard, moral and ethic; method is uncut value.[/tab]
I actually think philosophy hasn’t advanced much since Thales. It hasn’t advanced upon him, but it got sidetracked in a huge way. The principle of physis that he saw at the core of all things as ‘god’, or as self-originating entity, has eluded lesser philosophers, those who are concerned with morality and conduct and human pleasure and pain and purpose and such - the ontologist, the one who looks into the soul of things, sees only this self-emerging entity which he relates to himself, can not escape relating to himself, and in which he seeks, as an act of good will towards this existence, to examine it under many different circumstances.
And yet still, any time he observes an uncanny thing, the striking aspect is precisely this immaculately false interpreting that holds the world together at all the stitches.
The gods are good to use because they tell us that things are true which are not. They compel us to live as immortals, they give ‘courage’ - and to dismiss those lies, to question the gods, to become depressive and submissive to the truths of science, is hubris, as it is a result of an attempt to finalize the scores of being and non being. This, for mortals, is not given to us.
"See you want it to be one way…
But it’s the other way." - Marlo
Hitler was Dionysus in speech and Apollo in aesthetics.
His oration was intense, passionate; his nazi parades were beautifully ordered.
The ugliness of it all was in the slaughter, in the injustices done to the Jews.
The excess of Dionysus…
Dionysos is not known as a war god though.
At the most as the god of the inner war, the self-consuming passion that is a life.
Hitler used the runes.
Not a god of war, but a god of intoxication and/or frenzy.
The followers of Dionysus would sometimes get so out of control that they would go into a cannibalistic frenzy;
the blood/wine connection.
The war aspect is Wotanic.
Yes, there is this field between Apollon and Dionysos, which contains war, as war is both highly ordered and relies on absolute frenzy.
In India, there is Bhairava-Shiva-Rudra.
The Greeks had Ares to represent war, and he was a very unloved god, feared, loathed even, as he represented little more than the cold promise of iron and the mists of the underworld.
Odin, or the German version/brother-god Wotan, represent a wildness that is able to harness structures. The runes are ‘wild structures’.
If you pay me $500 I will compose the soundtrack for your crappy movies.
So the Clan is back together, in fact never really managed to disband.
It was only that progress in life took on some radical forms and we both had to put all energy in our own paths. These paths come to converge again, in the projects we initially set out.
Here’s some previews for your entertainment.
Seriously, please don’t bother watching them if you tend to dislike what I make! It’s not compulsory in any way.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlpfSyjKxmE[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrj7IFsSkkg[/youtube]
Still work in progress, we’ll take em down in a while.
I’m willing to undercut trixie, i’ll compose the soundtrack for your crappy movies for $475
Smelly cunt got a bit jealous?
Please hurry up, babe.
Just discipline yourself and stop watching it.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DSEGTuOIis[/youtube]
This should not be watched by Smellycunt. We dont want to exacerbate her addiction.
This is just an abuse of youtube’s server space.