"Inside" Experience

[Aegean]

@Fixed Cross

But it is not actually said that electrons are particles…

Excellent.
Do they value one another?

They don’t stabilize by themselves - at best we know they are good for sending discrete signals. We can use them as causes to effects, but not as things.

How do they stabilize?
they send, signal?
They are conscious and intentional?
Ha!!
They communicate?

I claim that we require VO to replace the standard model, because there is no physical boson that completes the formula for an atom.
An atom, I contend, is the definitive physical self-valuing.

So, you claim that an atom is a product of intent?
You cannot think of any other circumstance that does not require an allusion to judgment?
‘I think a therefore I am’ means all existence is so?
You, 160+ IQ cannot think of a single alternative that does not require judgment ot any allusion to intent?

So in terms of VO, it is possible electrons as we think we known them are merely values, not self-valuings

They are values in relation to an observer, a consciousness…not in and of themselves.
Value is a misleading term…one who intentionally chose, eh moron?
You wanted to be so much like Nietzsche that you found the word that would connect you to his …psychological brilliance.
He said nothing of importance…his entire opus was about human psychology in a nihilistic world.
most of it is derivative…from Schopenhauer and the pre-Socratics…he modernized them.
Was he your ideal man, Iakob?

I know why Freud invented the Oedipus Complex, but you and this Value centred ontology?
I can only speculate.
Why value and not love or pleasure…or another positive term?
Huh?
You ain’t saying anything different, so why the change in terminology?
Te need to make a name for yourself?
To stand out, to prove the world wrong? To be…valued?..Appreciated?

[Pedro_I_Rengel (PZR)]

“an observer,”

yes, but this is the kit. After Descartes, how blatantly off he was, it became clear: what is it that observes?

[Pedro_I_Rengel (PZR)]

Well I guess it was already clear to smarter men. But Descartes became an institution for pointing it out.

[Aegean]

@Fixed Cross

Such an arrogant cunt, you are.
Ha!!
Yes, and China reads your posts, you imbecile and Peterson was affected by Vo, you moron.
I laughed and laughed…expecting someone to put you in your place…but these brain dead morons were silent before your insanity.

Fact is you come here to read my shitt and talk about it too - you’re so much dumber than Peterson? I sent Peterson a link on fb once, not soon after he became all crazy and red eared and just seemed to have lost it and started attacking monadic theories of ontology.

China reads everything you dummy. What do you think AI is for?
It wouldnt even surprise me if “America First” is based on VO.
The world has become small and almost empty. VO is the only thing that works for us in the west, as our power over others is our capacity to self-value in elaborate ways. Luxury, being that is justified to itself.
Thats what we seek, not some buddhist or christian reduction; even if there can only be one man who truly exists, this is worth the sacrifice of the whole universe. That is Nietzsche, VO, all the flows from it.

By the gods,. you are simple.

Tell us more about how the world is reading Iakob and adjusting its strategies. I want them to all see the depths of your insanity.
was Perterson reading you and adjusting his speeches?
What a fucking douche-bag you are!!!
Ha!!!
A world changer…who is living like a bum.
How many lost men-children, like yourself, will you take advantage of before you begin feeling shamed?
But I forget…guilt and shame has become a tool for your people.

The depths of desperate depravity one must fall to believe that the Chinse Politburo, and American chiefs of staff are reading him…and caring…
You have issues.
This entire forum is full of individuals with psychological issues, but you, especially, have issues.
I’m not going to tell you what they are. I want to watch them unfold after I am gone.

[promethean75]

May even have a nihilists like Brian giving you the benefit of the doubt, cause h’s only interested in making friends

Now hold your horses there buddy. I’ve always thought the whole lot of you were cornballs. But I’m still allowed a little cajolery and shit-shootin with the flakes once in a while.

And slow down man with the posting. The typos are out of control. You’re gonna give yourself a stroke.

[Aegean]

@Pedro I Rengel

“an observer,”

yes, but this is the kit. After Descartes, how blatantly off he was, it became clear: what is it that observes?

Are you smoking something right now?
You sound discombobulated…and that shit will not do with someone like me.
It may work on simpletons like those found on ILP,…but not me.
If you cannot put together a cohesive sentence, then do not bother to post.
That word- prose crap you’ve been throwing around is not effective on me.
Get your self together, breath and then post.

[Aegean]

@promethean75

Now hold your horses there buddy. I’ve always thought the whole lot of you were cornballs. But I’m still allowed a little cajolery and shit-shootin with the flakes once in a while.

And slow down man with the posting. The typos are out of control. You’re gonna give yourself a stroke.

Yeah…but it’s all part of a plan…it’s been determined.
Stop complaining for what has been preordained.

I’m hoping to get to eat some ice-cream, if the universal forces have determined it to be so.

[Pedro_I_Rengel (PZR)]

Don’t worry, it’s fair enough.

[Fixed_Cross]

@Aegean

@Fixed Cross

But it is not actually said that electrons are particles…

Excellent.
Do they value one another?

No. They only relate to each other through the actual ontos, atoms.

They are consequences and parts, not self-valuings, except of course the notion of them.
They are values.

They don’t stabilize by themselves - at best we know they are good for sending discrete signals. We can use them as causes to effects, but not as things.

How do they stabilize?
they send, signal?
They are conscious and intentional?
Ha!!
They communicate?

Yes, they signal.
electromagnetism.
Thats not something Ill win the Nobel prize for thought - someone else already discovered that. You know what - you’re on a machine made of…

anyway.

I claim that we require VO to replace the standard model, because there is no physical boson that completes the formula for an atom.
An atom, I contend, is the definitive physical self-valuing.

So, you claim that an atom is a product of intent?
You cannot think of any other circumstance that does not require an allusion to judgment?
‘I think a therefore I am’ means all existence is so?
You, 160+ IQ cannot think of a single alternative that does not require judgment ot any allusion to intent?

No, I clam that “intent” is a weaker version of what is called atomic strong force.
I claim that it is more sensible to reduce ourselves to the atom than the other way around.

So that the utmost we can actually know as beings, not in theory but in the singularity of experience, is the only thing that literally applies to ontology.

What I see is the experience I most singular at the moments crucial values are withdrawn.

So in terms of VO, it is possible electrons as we think we known them are merely values, not self-valuings

They are values in relation to an observer, a consciousness…not in and of themselves.

Value is a misleading term…one who intentionally chose, eh moron?

Nietzsche worked with it, I took over.
Its the only one that works across the board.

You wanted to be so much like Nietzsche that you found the word that would connect you to his …psychological brilliance.

Pathetic. If you dont understand the value philosophy for its own sake has, what, are you in it for the social networking?

He said nothing of importance…his entire opus was about human psychology in a nihilistic world.
most of it is derivative…from Schopenhauer and the pre-Socratics…he modernized them.
Was he your ideal man, Iakob?

Obviously I am my ideal man.

I know why Freud invented the Oedipus Complex, but you and this Value centred ontology?
I can only speculate.
Why value and not love or pleasure…or another positive term?

Because electrons have value (-1e) and not pleasure.

Huh?
You ain’t saying anything different, so why the change in terminology?
Te need to make a name for yourself?
To stand out, to prove the world wrong? To be…valued?..Appreciated?

Ibid. I use value and not love or pleasure because value applies to mathematics and every other field and these two only in the animal realm.

[Fixed_Cross]

Well, Aegean, it seems you have certain love for philosophical concepts. You can not think, which means you will never know what thinking is. I mean that. But you have a strong dislike of yourself and urge for philosophical concepts to compensate for that, so you have a certain … erm, substance.

Curious…

[Aegean]

@Fixed Cross

No.

They are consequences and parts, not self-valuings, except of course the notion of them.
They are values.

No, simpleton they are what?
What does valuing , needing, willing have in common?

Yes, they signal.
electromagnetism.
Thats not something Ill win the Nobel prize for thought - someone else already discovered that. You know what - you’re on a machine made of…

Are ou sure…'cause you’ve stated that you are a genius.
Can you think of another way two forces can merge that does not involve a word insinuating a motive?
How does one note harmonize with another?

No, I clam that “intent” is a weaker version of what is called atomic strong force.

So, you claim intent is present in non-living unities, like an atom?
I claim that it is more sensible to reduce ourselves to the atom than the other way around.

What I see is the experience I most singular at the moments crucial values are withdrawn.

Does that sentence make sense to you?
I know you’ve gotten away with shit like this, but does it make sense to you…honestly?
Instead of shutting the fuck up when you do not know, you must pretend that you do know with nonspecial sentences like that.

Nietzsche worked with it, I took over.
Its the only one that works across the board.

So, Nietzsche, for you, is the epitome the top, the god?
Can you tell me what was his contribution to philosophy, from where you “took over” my idiot8ic self-declared genius?
What did you take over from?

Pathetic. If you dont understand the value philosophy for its own sake has, what, are you in it for the social networking?

Moron, that strategy does not work on me. Nonsense is nascence…and you pretending it makes sense doews not make it so.
Why ‘value’ imbecile?
Why not ‘love’? To pretend you invented something new?

Obviously I am my ideal man, and Nietzsche is my mate who called me to tell you faggots to grow some balls.

Really?
You sound like a school girl who just got fucked under the bleachers by the school jock.
I feel like I’m god…no, a butterfly…no…Schopenhauer’s cousin.
Do you have testicles?
You lick them…and suck Nietzsche’s dead cock…but do YOU have testicles?

I know why Freud invented the Oedipus Complex, but you and this Value centred ontology?
I can only speculate.

But VO covers everything…it is so vague and nonsensical that it can encompass everything.
Why did Freud come up with the Oedipus Complex?

Because electrons have value (-1e) and not pleasure.

To a human, moron.
humans measure it.
Do they have value in and of themselves?
Tell me its energy.
Then why did you call it 'value, hypocrite…why not energy?

I ask again 160+IQ…what is common between your simplistic value, and will, and desire a nd want, and need?
Energy was a hint, you imbecile.

Ibid. I use value and not love or pleasure because value applies to mathematics and every other field and these two only in the animal realm.

So value applies as a measurement, huh moron?
a measurement of what?
You stopped there, like a pathetic Jew.
Above I almost tell you.

[Aegean]

@Fixed Cross

Well, Aegean, it seems you have certain love for philosophical concepts. You can not think, which means you will never know what thinking is. I mean that. But you have a strong dislike of yourself and urge for philosophical concepts to compensate for that, so you have a certain … erm, substance.

Curious…

Stick with astrology moron…you ain’t good at psychology.
Maybe Jupiter entering mars will give you a hint.
Ha!!!
When you go off the prose and poetics your true intelligence shines.
Tell me…what am I wearing…hint…nothing.
Ha!!!

You know, I’ve come across superstitious old-wives…but a theoretical male, like you?
Never.
Most astrologers I’ve met had a bit of a kink in their wrist….fags.
Someone told me you once ‘fucked a man’…or did he do you and you inverted the memory?
No shame…taking it up the arse is…in, these days,.

it is related to Freud’s Oedipus Complex theory. How he tried to convince us all that we wanted to fuck uor mothers…did you?

[Pedro_I_Rengel (PZR)]

Shhhh… Calm down…

[Aegean]

@Pedro I Rengel

Shhhh… Calm down…

I’m too hyper…need something to calm myself.
meditate…hush,…focus…happy thoughts……
Shit…you are an imbecile.

[Pedro_I_Rengel (PZR)]

WOOOOoow… Wooow…

Take it easy there…

[Pedro_I_Rengel (PZR)]

Relax.

[Aegean]

@Pedro I Rengel

Relax.

Calm…relax…okay…so camming your words are.
Makes me feel powerful…in control.

[Artimas]

@Fixed Cross

Oh. Well, if you don’t know what it means for experience to respond to itself then I guess we’re done.
Not much of an expert on Experience, I might say.

Sounds like the theory of natural selection of natural selection I brought up before. Experience responds to itself previous to consciousness, the unconscious experience embedded in psyche or “chaotic mental” is directly relative to that experience of which responds to itself. It is the archaic, primordial makings of all that is currently. The fabric of consciousness and reality.

The first beginning of natural selection is to do with the unconscious facets of reality, energy and matter in different forms/variables responding to each other, inevitably leading into the subconscious aspects, which is life, single cell and animalistic and other instinctual life, which then grew complex via experience and inverted, which is what consciousness is, now we have all three and the power of consciousness is to become aware of what is not directly experienced consciously but buried in psyche by the unconscious experiencing were attached to and come from, thus, there is no imagination due to this, only reality not confined to the present moment quite yet. Past or future tense.

When the subconscious aspects of reality began, so did the easily observable 2nd form of natural selection, which has to do with life, trial and error and survival of the fittest. Perhaps not always the fittest, but the more complex. Which Darwin discovered this 2nd natural selection regarding life, due to its being blatantly there.

[Pedro_I_Rengel (PZR)]

@Aegean

@Pedro I Rengel

Relax.

Calm…relax…okay…so camming your words are.
Makes me feel powerful…in control.

Shhhhh…

[Aegean]

Can I inhale?

i’m smoking a splif….