Forever

[surreptitious75]

@Mr Reasonable

@surreptitious75

Death has a very hard time being accepted within society but the real problem is the irrational fear that it creates
Because nobody who is dead has ever worried for a single second about it why do the living worry about it so much

Because they fear regretting not living the life that they felt they should have lived in one way or another

Even if there was another chance at life there would still be regret because mistakes would still be made
They would not be the same mistakes that had already been made just different ones but still mistakes
No matter how many lives a human being lived they would never get it perfect so best just to have one
I am not sure I would want to live my life again even if it were possible and I think I would prefer death

[A_Shieldmaiden]

Fixed, everybody believes something. Even what appears to be a rejection of all beliefs is a kind of belief. A person is not free if he rejects Christianity, because he still maintains the concept of faith which you have demonstrated in your response above by transferring your faith to something or someone else. Read the comments on Know Thyself Forum regarding Christianity and their proud assertions of being Pagan, which only demonstrates a transference of faith, no different really to the Christian fervently proclaiming his beliefs. There is nowhere someone can stand where he or she has no beliefs, otherwise we would all be robots. The dilemma here is what and why we choose to embrace and believe, whether it be paganism, christianity, astrology, etc or none of these.

[Fixed_Cross]

@A Shieldmaiden

Fixed, everybody believes something. Even what appears to be a rejection of all beliefs is a kind of belief. A person is not free if he rejects Christianity, because he still maintains the concept of faith which you have demonstrated in your response above by transferring your faith to something or someone else. Read the comments on Know Thyself Forum regarding Christianity and their proud assertions of being Pagan, which only demonstrates a transference of faith, no different really to the Christian fervently proclaiming his beliefs. There is nowhere someone can stand where he or she has no beliefs, otherwise we would all be robots. The dilemma here is what and why we choose to embrace and believe, whether it be paganism, christianity, astrology, etc or none of these.

Ideals are a projection of what we are.
I was inviting you into a loftier world of being, knowing that you would spit on te gift.

My incurable ideals for humans show you what I am.

[surreptitious75]

@A Shieldmaiden

There is nowhere someone can stand where he or she has no beliefs otherwise we would all be robots

I do not believe anything because belief is a faith position which requires no evidence. There are things I think are true but thinking and believing are not the
same. I have no time for belief. I do not define knowledge as justified true belief either because knowledge and belief have got nothing to do with each other

[A_Shieldmaiden]

Fixed wrote:

Ideals are a projection of what we are.
I was inviting you into a loftier world of being, knowing that you would spit on te gift.

My incurable ideals for humans show you what I am.

Whoa…give me some time to read and digest I am new on this subject Orlog, as for spitting on it that is not the case. What occurred to me was the curious similarity in some parts between Judaism and Orlog. Can I ask a question of you no need to answer if you consider it too personal. Have you abandoned Judaism entirely in favour of Orlog and if so what are your reasons you chose to do so?

There is a certain type of “reward” or “punishment” one can receive. Because there is no forgiveness under these concepts, one would have to strive to atone and make up for the past wrongs by balancing them out with “right” actions. Depending on your orlog, you may go to one of the various halls or have the halls closed to you. However, most tend to not think too much about the afterlife. The “here and now” is thought to be the more important aspect, and whatever comes will come.

Sources:
Nordic Religions In the Viking Age by University of Pennsylvania Press

Unlike many other faiths, however, Judaism does not regard these faith convictions as redemptive in and of themselves. Judaism is a mitzvah-oriented faith which insists that one’s re­ligious convictions be translated into virtuous deeds. Without the underpinnings of faith, there can be no motivation or ra­tionale to live a life of religious observance. We are not content, however, to have faith confessions remain theoretical. Instead, they become moral challenges and exhortations to man. They ex­press themselves through norms of human behavior and are endowed with practical significance, stimulating us either to do or to abstain, to engage or to withdraw. A faith conviction may be theologically or philosophically significant, but what is primary is the moral principle and practice that emerges from it.

Joseph Ber Soloveitchik was a major American Orthodox rabbi, Talmudist, and modern Jewish philosopher.

[A_Shieldmaiden]

surreptitious75 wrote:

I do not believe anything because belief is a faith position which requires no evidence.

SM wrote:

Even what appears to be a rejection of all beliefs is a kind of belief.

[unknowing]

Fovever is a feeling.

[WendyDarling]

Life is a void without feelings which feelings fill which probably leads to that forever.

[unknowing]

Yes, and I also feel that forever comes from that feeling, before it leads back to it. I’ve heard it’s always present and that we can gain access to it now.

[A_Shieldmaiden]

“Love” and “forever” are two of the most abused and meaningless words in the English language.

[unknowing]

Since forever has no boundries, words with definitions don’t apply unless forever is looked at like an “outsider”. Outside the moment. This is where the past and future step in. I forever philosophy?