Ensuring Accomplishment, No Matter the Task

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The problem is that you do not know which of those is in reality which, because you merely speculate and propose failure.

Exactly my point. From your excessively negative outlook, you keep yourself ignorant of what you could have accomplished. To learn how to accomplish requires the practice of trying the small things until you can more clearly see the big things that currently in your blindness think to be impossible.

We both already know that you are not going to even try this. And because of that, you are certainly not going to get anything out of it. And presumably you are going to merely keep preaching the worthlessness of trying. So don’t be surprised when I decide to just ignore (or perhaps merely toy with, again) your harping.

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And the award for completely missing the point goes to…James.

You totally failed to see what I was getting at and the key is the last paragraph I wrote
because there lies a truth. Success and failure are just words as is good and evil and right
and wrong. (I find it interesting that no matter which direction I go, I am following Nietzsche)
I am not interested in you dime store psychology but I am interested in a bigger point which
is words like success and failure and accomplishments really mean nothing. We define life
with such words when we should be avoiding such words because they don’t mean anything.

What did Nietzsche mean by “Beyond good and evil”? They are simply words that have no
meaning. We draw a line in the sand and proclaim it good or evil, right or wrong, success or failure.
that line in the sand can be or mean anything we want. To draw a line is to limit us and say
there is no other, but there are others and others actions and steps and beliefs. We say good and evil
and believe them to be truths, but they are just words with meaning only if we invest them with
meaning. You mistake me sir as someone who is about success and failure whereas I am
not interested in success or failure because I have found them to mean nothing. We must
rise beyond good and evil, right or wrong, success or failure. We define them in ways that
limit us. We must rise above those meaningless words and discover something else.
What is that something else? That is the journey of life. I focus on the whole thing whereas
you focus on one small area. Broaden you search area and see that we have invested our own
meaning in words that limit us. Take a birds eye view of success and failure and see, it means
nothing.

Kropotkin

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And as always, because you know nothing of accomplishment or good, you propose the annihilation of even the thought of them: “They are just meaningless words. Forget they ever existed. Be satisfied to join the Abyss of nothingness.” Nietzsche was embarrassingly naive and is now merely being used as an icon to enslave the masses even more than they were before.

Yeah, yeah. We have heard all of your fatalistic non-sense many times. This, as I said, is for those other people who do not worship your god of Nihilism and prefer to live in the light of real hope rather than the darkness of fear and fatalism.

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Hilarious thread.

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I have absolutely no illusions that you will ever be willing [let alone able] to bring your didactic abstractions down to earth. To implicate them in the manner in which I make a distinction between tasks that can be accomplished and tasks that in being accomplished rile others into opposition.

But why don’t you cite some examples of the “small tasks” that you accomplished enabling you to successfully tackle the “big tasks” down the road.

And focus in particular on a task that did in fact prompt others to object. Object because they argued that the task you accomplished was one in which they did not share your own moral or political or religious values.

In other words, how in the world is your analysis above applicable to tasks in which conflicting goods are clearly manifest?

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This is a good post

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This is about how to accomplish tasks. It is not about how to appease every single person on the planet. These days, you can be assured that your very existence is objected to by someone regardless of what you are doing. I am merely explaining a means to help ensure that you succeed more with what you try to do in your “conflicting goods” environment.

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Carry on, James. I’m just here to note the distinction between tasks that are able to be accomplished with little or no fuss from others and tasks that, once accomplished, precipitate all manner of outrage and opposition from others.

For example…

George W. Bush set out to accomplish the task of invading Iraq. Others set out to accomplish the task of stopping him.

Or:

A woman sets out to accomplish the task of aborting her unborn baby. Others set out to accomplish the task of stopping her.

Or:

Hitler sets out to accomplish the task of exterminating the Jewish race. Others set out to accomplish the task of stopping him.

Conflicting goods and “tasks”. That’s the part [the relationship] I would like others to bear in mind when out searching for some “methodology” to “accomplish” their “goals” or their “ideals”.

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I successfully completed a bowel movement earlier and my thoughts were of this thread.

Thanks guys, I needed the extra motivation.

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James does not comprehend that his philosophy, which is supposed to free people, is actually a theory on how slave’s mind works, and thus, a strategy on how to enslave people. His efforts will no doubt be appreciated by future masters.

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Okay little one, how about explain exactly how such a practice would lead to enslavement to others.

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How does that feel James? To call me “little one”? Does it feel good? Does it make you hopeful? Hopeful about the prospect of your theory being correct and my posts being nothing but a sign of juvenility? Is that how you think? or feel? or whatever is the name of the process that goes inside your brain when you respond to people the way you just responded to me?

Did I make you annoyed? Because I made fun of you? Oh, I am sorry James, I am really sorry, I really am, I never meant to hurt you, it was an accident, just a bad habit, no bad intentions, no evil, just pure goodness, I just wanted to help, did not mean to make you upset, I am serious, seriously.

But do you know, James, or should I say understand, that not all feelings of annoyance are bad? Just because I annoy you does not mean it’s a bad thing. You need to think beyond pleasure and pain. Not all pleasure is good and not all pain is bad.

I am of the modest opinion that my annoyance is of use to you, it’s just that you’re stuck in your hedonistic mindset which observes everything from the point of view of pleasure and pain. You need to step out of that hole from time to time, get some fresh air, you know.

Not all annoyance is bad and not all annoyance is good. You annoy me too, you know that? But you are a stupid person, and so, your annoyance is stupid. It does not teach me anything other than how stupid people behave. On the other hand, I am a smart person and my annoyance is smart, the aim of it being to free you from your biological slavery. I want to penetrate through your brain and get those suppressed, those enslaved, biological drives to break free from the chains of the subconscious and get some fresh air in the consciousness. You are a tyrant, James, you have all these drives suffering in the dungeon of your subconscious because you are too afraid to let them out. I want to make them free, but you don’t let me, you yell at me “DON’T TOUCH THAT! I AM TRYING TO MAINTAIN MY ANENTROPIC HARMONY AND YOU ARE TRYING TO RUIN IT!”

How can I explain to you how can your practice lead to the enslavement of others when you do not know the difference between freedom and slavery? how can I explain that to you when you look at everything from the point of view of pleasure and pain?

I am sorry, James, I don’t think I can help. You already had too many opportunities on this forum. Many people tried to open your eyes, but they failed. I don’t think I can succeed either, but that’s not my goal here, not my concern.

Do you know, James, that there are many children browsing this forum? do you know what damage you do to their brain with all of this bullshit? you are committing crimes against humanity, James, people go to jail for this sort of stuff, sometimes they even get sentenced to death. And this is my role here: to make people aware of your sickness.

Ladies and gentlemen, stay away from this man, he’s a sickness.

DON’T LISTEN TO HIM, HE IS DANGEROUS.

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^^^^ In other words: You don’t have a clue?
Can’t you explain to me the essence of James’ philosophy, before I get conned or waste my time?

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I felt repressed, because of what I actually preferred to call you but didn’t.

No, merely a little more disappointed because you so obviously attempt to be a macho man declaring supreme knowledge about things that are obviously well beyond your very limited scope.

Oh yeah. “Only listen to what we, your supreme masters tell you.” :icon-rolleyes:

Gyahd … what an insecure, egocentric imbecile.

I asked for you to explain your objection concerning slavery. And you spend all that time doing this instead … telling people to only listen to you - a “tyrant”.

“Don’t listen to him!! He is the Devil!! Be afraid! Be very afraid! {{like me}}”

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I don’t think anger is very anentropic harmonic, James. It promotes violence. Do you want me to be violent to you? Is that what you want? I thought you wanted anentropic harmony.

I come in peace, James. I am here to help you, to free you from your biological slavery. You are misunderstanding me. I do not want to enslave you, I do not want to make you do what you do not want to do. Rather, I want to make you do what you really want to do.

James, it’s not too late, you can help yourself. Trust me. You have my hope. Give it up before it becomes too big. Once it becomes too big there is no going back. You are doomed. There is still hope for you, James, I can feel it, you are a smart man – albeit a bit stupid – but still smart. Smart for a stupid man.

James, we need to agree on the definition of the word “freedom”. What does it mean to be free, James? Doesn’t freedom mean being able to do what you want to do?

What do humans want, James? Don’t they want competition, James? Don’t they want war?

How do we want what we want, James? Do we simply choose out of nowhere? or is our want rooted in our drives?

And what are drives, James? Aren’t drives sort of like habits? Like when you do something over and over again it acquires momentum and becomes a drive?

So when you do something a lot James it becomes a drive. Right, James?

If people fought in the past they will continue to fight, they will want to fight.

So we look at the way our ancestors lived in the past. How did they live, James? Did they fight or were they peaceful, James?

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Umm… No. You very obviously do not (with hardly anybody) “come in peace”. And you hardly ever read anything either. You are obviously here to attempt to express your imagined manhood rather than learn who and what your real enemies actually are (like real men do). You are merely a young minded actor.

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Was that supposed to be your refutation? Dumb presumption followed by dumb presumption?

It means doing what you decide to do, which directly implies that you are accomplishing what you decide … which is exactly what this thread is explaining how to get done.

Did you read ANY of the OP at all?
You can read, right?
… haven’t seen much evidence.

Most certainly do not. They are driven into war by their “masters”, usually of merely deception. But even if they did, this thread is merely explaining how to better accomplish even that. Obviously your are not reading the thread (or not with any comprehension).

Most often, people are getting programmed into it … by those masters that you seem to want to hide from people rather than free people from.

“Since people have always failed when they tried to fly, they will always fail when they try to fly…”

… unless they learn better how to Ensure Accomplishment.

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There is no need to read anything you write, James, because your premises are incorrect. Some structures can be destroyed without knowing much about them.

You are a fool, James. You defend yourself by appealing to possibilities. That’s embarassingly weak.

I know who my enemies are, James. You are my enemy, James. You are full of shit, James. I fight against people who are full of shit, James.

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James, you really are a stupid person. There was “war” long before there was war and this “war” was called fighting. There were no masters back then. Noone to force anyone else into fighting, apart from, of course, reality. War is simply a higher stage of competition.

There are, of course, people who were forced to fight, but this proves nothing, it’s just a way for you to miss the point and misinterpret reality because you’re a coward, James.

You are a wuss, James.

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Gyahd, how pathetic.

“I don’t need to read anything because I already know everything.”
Geeezzz…