Enlightenment

[WendyDarling]

Karpel, will you share your in between experiences? I’m gonna check out your link.

You could find a regression person and ask to focus on the in-between states.

Any specific recommendations?

Meno wrote

If a conscious Being can arguably have some psychic imprint from previous lives, then the theory of psychic types makes sense. On that level, and from that level, an ex-post facto argument can support the idea of past lives as basis from which psychic evolution makes sense

What is a psychic imprint? What is this psychic evolution?

[WendyDarling]

2. I don’t see why there would be sudden enlightenment or purity or sameness after death. That person has gone through its particular life and carries its particular confusions, desires, needs, etc.

What I found interesting about astral projecting to the plane of peace is that when I asked if I had lived a life as a human, my life was revealed in a black and white montage without any emotional context, very matter-o-factly without my biases or beliefs. Very strange indeed to view one’s life from such a detached vantage point. When you have no human body, no human needs to be satisfied or experienced, I arrived on that plane without any emotional baggage, lacking all memories of my life until I asked for proof.

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

@WendyDarling

Karpel, will you share your in between experiences? I’m gonna check out your link.

You could find a regression person and ask to focus on the in-between states.

Wendy,

The argument against a clean slate beginning is counter the intuitive argument for progression (or regression) in the Bardo state. I’ve read the Book of the Dead several times, and what the soul does in the Bardo state is an imprint which will effect and ultimately determine the Karmic manifestation. I believe You called it the role the taken by the incubation of the manifested soul, becoming embodied. These roles can evolve or devolve , and of significance in the Bardo state, is, that there is a limited amount of freedom to chose the psychic area, where the embodiment will be attached to the soul.
Given this scenario, the soul can detach a particular attachment at the last second, a binding force so strong, that it’s severing can indeed culminate into a total Enlightement. For such to occur , only the rarest of soul can venture to attain it, some souls may take as many as millions of.lifetimes, or even billions.The imprint can become so strongly bound, that am evolution toward perfection may not be possible.

Any specific recommendations?

Meno wrote

If a conscious Being can arguably have some psychic imprint from previous lives, then the theory of psychic types makes sense. On that level, and from that level, an ex-post facto argument can support the idea of past lives as basis from which psychic evolution makes sense

What is a psychic imprint? What is this psychic evolution?

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

sorry my answer ended up in the wrong place
I hope Kerpel doesent mind my interjection.at times, and I offer the idea that aspects of this theme convoluted relevance at this level.

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

@WendyDarling

2. I don’t see why there would be sudden enlightenment or purity or sameness after death. That person has gone through its particular life and carries its particular confusions, desires, needs, etc.

What I found interesting about astral projecting to the plane of peace is that when I asked if I had lived a life as a human, my life was revealed in a black and white montage without any emotional context, very matter-o-factly without my biases or beliefs. Very strange indeed to view one’s life from such a detached vantage point. When you have no human body, no human needs to be satisfied or experienced, I arrived on that plane without any emotional baggage, lacking all memories of my life until I asked for proof.

I believe that answers to that question is effected by the primal perceptive logic of the beginning state, this is why, at the animal stage, very few animals can think except in nominal, binary affects. as most thought is occupied and imprinted from the fight or flight basic existential threat.

[WendyDarling]

I believe that answers to that question is effected by the primal perceptive logic of the beginning state, this is why, at the animal stage, very few animals can think except in nominal, binary affects. as most thought is occupied and imprinted from the fight or flight basic existential threat.

I don’t understand any of what is above. What is a beginning state? Do you think souls evolve?

Because of the complex nature of Your questions , they have to be taken up separately and more explicitly in my opinion.

I’ve been asking a lot of questions hoping for you to fill in the blanks with your opinions, learned or otherwise, but am missing your responses.

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

Sure, ill retrace and respond accordingly, as I can .

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

@WendyDarling

I believe that answers to that question is effected by the primal perceptive logic of the beginning state, this is why, at the animal stage, very few animals can think except in nominal, binary affects. as most thought is occupied and imprinted from the fight or flight basic existential threat.

I don’t understand any of what is above. What is a beginning state? Do you think souls evolve?

Because of the complex nature of Your questions , they have to be taken up separately and more explicitly in my opinion.

I’ve been asking a lot of questions hoping for you to fill in the blanks with your opinions, learned or otherwise, but am missing your responses.

Wendy, I retraced the whole forum and found that I answered. most questions, except some addresses to Karpal.

Basically the word " imprint’ comes to mind, and although I adapted that word from a class I attended on imprint of behavior upon chickens in a pay h class , where f newly born exposed to a human being beofe to the mother hen, will follow. the person, as of they were their mother
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This sense of am imprint is behavior cognitive, whereas imprints on the soul follow cognitive ideas through death and the Bardo state to rebirth.

This question remained less undefined, because it’s not provable by the similar bit not identical behaviorist model
It is proof by analogy, and You are questioning the appropriateness of using that analogy, if i understand You. Correctly.

[WendyDarling]

This sense of am imprint is behavior cognitive, whereas imprints on the soul follow cognitive ideas through death and the Bardo state to rebirth.

Ideas in the form of four virtues imprinted on each person’s soul as written in the Bible some where courtesy of Pilgrim Tom’s knowledge. I think they are justice, prudence, temperance, and fortitude, but I’m not certain since I located it under Catholicism.