Ecological Morality

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

@Aware-ness

@Ierrellus

Can we rely on science and technology to save us from ourselves? Religions offering other worlds is not an answer.
Is the 12 year deadline another Y2K-type scare? I don’t know. I only know that, if the prediction is true, we will have no choice but to face it together. We will have to live in a less favorable environment. There is no “planet -B” to escape to.

Aren’t we living it up today, so they can die tomorrow?

Let’s wait on how immune suppression to control population by drug inducement will allow the equitable balance to develop between natural and artificial conditions of production and cinsumption; to even the field, before jumping to hasty conclusions.
This supposed pandemic may or may not serve as a coming index to evaluate by.

[Aware-ness]

@Meno_

Let’s wait on how immune suppression to control population by drug inducement will allow the equitable balance to develop between natural and artificial conditions of production and cinsumption; to even the field, before jumping to hasty conclusions.
This supposed pandemic may or may not serve as a coming index to evaluate by.

What do you mean by immune suppression? Please explain.

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

@Ierrellus

@Karpel Tunnel

@Ierrellus

Way back in the 1960s Aldous Huxley wrote a utopian novel, Island. In that novel the sense of morality was ecological, a belief in finding human meaning in our inclusion in ecosystems, in our integral part of all life and matter. It is a morality of belonging by being. Is this type of morality the future of religion and science as one thing?

I think one could argue that many animist/indigenous/shamanistic religions had this in the past, and then also this exists in the present. Of course their science however empirical in many ways was not quite modern sciences, except when it was.

Ideas from religions of the past may be enjoying a new presence as many take a good look at the price of our exploitation of Nature and have hopes for a decent future for mankind. Pinker and others have written of tremendous progress in goods and services for people since the enlightenment. Problem is the progress excludes indigenous people.

I think it entirely possible that our immune systems have been effected not merely by ecological factors, but by biochemical agents released , accidentally, or otherwise, that invades lowered resistance, thereby causing virolous responses.

{Please see this response in the next block-sorry}

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

@Aware-ness

@Meno_

Let’s wait on how immune suppression to control population by drug inducement will allow the equitable balance to develop between natural and artificial conditions of production and cinsumption; to even the field, before jumping to hasty conclusions.
This supposed pandemic may or may not serve as a coming index to evaluate by.

What do you mean by immune suppression? Please explain.

Sorry, my response was placed in the preceding block.

But to repeat: human immunity has been constrained to lower levels of resistance, some by ecological factors, and some by accidental or other means of release into the environment-of biochemical agents.

[Ierrellus]

Can the coronavirus epidemic be in any way tied into global warming?

[MagsJ (..a chic geek)]

@Meno_

But to repeat: human immunity has been constrained to lower levels of resistance, some by ecological factors, and some by accidental or other means of release into the environment-of biochemical agents.

You ain’t wrong Meno… you are most definitely right.

I think I’ve talked on the topic enough here, over the years, so have nothing more to say, but only that I agree… there is nothing moral about current ecological and economical initiatives and objectives, well… not that many, at the very most.

[Aware-ness]

@Meno_

@Aware-ness

@Meno_

Let’s wait on how immune suppression to control population by drug inducement will allow the equitable balance to develop between natural and artificial conditions of production and cinsumption; to even the field, before jumping to hasty conclusions.
This supposed pandemic may or may not serve as a coming index to evaluate by.

What do you mean by immune suppression? Please explain.

Sorry, my response was placed in the preceding block.

But to repeat: human immunity has been constrained to lower levels of resistance, some by ecological factors, and some by accidental or other means of release into the environment-of biochemical agents.

Sure, there are some, maybe too many, that suffer from immunodeficiency disorder.

But are you saying that our collective immunity has been collectively lowered, so that our immunity can’t fight Covid 19, Sars, Mers, so forth and so on, whatever pandemic comes along next? that the problem is that we just can’t fight these viruses?

I read that Bats carry over 60 different types of coronavirus. Their immune systems must be much better than ours.

[Ierrellus]

I seem to remember somewhere reading that a commune based on Huxley’s Island existed. I cannot find any evidence of that on google. Be that as it may, communal living in the USA does not have a good track record. Capitalism is too alluring to most. The idea that you are what you possess is a difficult one to counter. In other words having speaks more to a persons sense of self-worth than even being.

[Ierrellus]

The spread of the coronavirus is forcing us to realize we are one.