Discussions On Abortion

Peter_Kropotkin · January 21, 2017, 10:45pm

K: I am not sure what you are getting at… instead of abortions, make contraceptives so available
that anyone in America can get one at 2 in the morning… every single street corner in America
I think that is pretty simple… if this is too complicated for you, I shall try to dumb it down for you,
just let me know…

Kropotkin

Mictlantecuhtli · January 21, 2017, 10:46pm

phyllo · January 21, 2017, 10:50pm

You’re not even smart enough to understand any of this. How could YOU dumb it down for ME???

Mictlantecuhtli · January 21, 2017, 10:52pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im2Gzf98u6U[/youtube]

Mictlantecuhtli · January 21, 2017, 10:55pm

Conservative talk radio host Dana Loesch got Twitter fired up recently by tossing out another statistic in the ongoing debate over Planned Parenthood and abortion.

In her post, Loesch claimed that Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards was “forced to concede that 86 percent of Planned Parenthood’s revenue is from abortion.”

Loesch’s post was retweeted more than 1,500 times and served as a foil to somewhat misleading claims that 97 percent of what Planned Parenthood does is preventative health.

But is it right? Did Planned Parenthood’s chief executive admit that 86 percent of its revenues come from abortions?

Both the figure and Loesch’s description of the events surrounding it are flawed. We’ll explain why.

The House hearing

Loesch is describing the Sept. 29 meeting of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which included some tough questioning of Richards.

At one point, Rep. Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo., asked Richards a series of questions about the number of Planned Parenthood’s clinics, whether it conducts mammograms (Planned Parenthood typically refers women to outside clinics for those), and the claim that just 3 percent of Planned Parenthood’s services are abortion-related.

Lummis asked Roberts about Planned Parenthood’s 2013-14 annual report, which she said included statistics that abortions “would have been over 86 percent of your non-government revenue.”

“How do you explain this massive disparity between the amount of revenue you collect from abortion, and the fact that you only report 3 percent of your services being abortion?” Lummis asked.

We have to stop and make clear that Lummis asked about non-government revenue, which is not what Loesch tweeted. (Loesch could have made that distinction and kept within her 140-character limit, in case you were wondering.)

Dropping the words “non-government” make a major difference, which we will discuss in a moment. But first back to Richards’ answer.

Richards at first responded by saying those numbers are not connected because federal money doesn’t cover abortions. (That’s correct, except in cases of Medicaid funds in instances of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother). Lummis then pressed for how many Planned Parenthood affiliates receive the majority of their revenue from abortion, and Richards said she didn’t know but would talk to her team about getting the answer.

Then Richards went back to Lummis’ original question and said, “But I do think it’s important to understand that abortion procedures are probably more expensive than some other procedures that we — that we provide, which might, you know, might explain what you’re trying to get at.”

politifact.com/punditfact/st … n-revenue/

phyllo · January 21, 2017, 10:58pm

‘Dumb bitches’ getting free abortions paid for by Kropotkin.

Who is the ‘dumb bitch’ here?

The_Golden_Turd · January 21, 2017, 11:00pm

I wish kropotkin’s mom had a abortion.

Peter_Kropotkin · January 21, 2017, 11:30pm

K: and we have the violence, anger, hate of the right and as exhibit A… Turd…

Kropotkin

Peter_Kropotkin · January 21, 2017, 11:32pm

K: ok, maybe you might want to up your dosage of whatever you are taking,
because I have no idea what you are going on about…

Kropotkin

phyllo · January 22, 2017, 12:07am

They can’t be bothered using contraception because Kropotkin will pay for an abortion.

Abortion = contraception. But cheaper.

AutSider · January 22, 2017, 12:20am

I’m in a great dilemma about which side to pick with regards to abortions. On one hand I love killing babies, on the other hand I think it’s a bad idea to let women make such important decisions. Hmmmm…

Just joking, of course! About the baby killing part, anyways.

phyllo · January 22, 2017, 12:26am

Kill the woman and the baby at the same time. Problem solved.

The_Golden_Turd · January 22, 2017, 12:42am

Carleas? You formulated that joke exactly as Carleas does. Exactly the same way.

Are you a Mexican who looks like Speedy Gonzalez?

WendyDarling · January 22, 2017, 12:55am

I agree. Let the men enjoy their reign alone.

WendyDarling · January 22, 2017, 12:56am

Female genocide. All problems solved.

phyllo · January 22, 2017, 1:08am

As usual, an ILP poster doesn’t understand.

WendyDarling · January 22, 2017, 1:17am

You just don’t understand my sense of humor, Phyllo.

phyllo · January 22, 2017, 1:20am

Humor does not work well on the internet.

At a certain point, humor is not appropriate.

Uccisore · January 22, 2017, 1:24am

They already cost three bucks at every convenience store in the country. How is making them slightly cheaper in slightly more locations going to solve anything? You really think people are getting abortions because they can’t afford a pack of trojans at Wal-Greens? I bet 95% of Americans are within 200 yards of a place selling condoms at any point in time.

WendyDarling · January 22, 2017, 1:24am

Same goes for irony.