Corona Virus Outbreak from Turd

Maia, relay this message to the golden turd if you will, please dear. Tell him that after an extensive reading of Tacitus and the Sanmati-tarka, I was suddenly struck with an idea that seemed preposterous at first… but after some tinkering in my garage, I was actually able to make it work. I took a toaster over, vacuum cleaner motor, some surgical tubes, and the radiation cell from a microwave, and constructed a vitamin D vaporizer that’s fueled by burning pages from Nietzsche books. With the wanderer and his shadow I was able to produce nearly 21 grams of vitamin D. The powder is then converted to a gas and then condensed into a vapor to be delivered directly to the lungs via a WW2 british style royal army gas mask contraption I built from parts I got at the surplus store. The only glitch that has to be worked out is that it only works for Catholics. I don’t know why, but I’m troubleshooting it now.

:laughing: That paragraph sounds more like Turd than even Turd himself. =D>

There’s some real…characters, on this forum. :confused:

Lol. Nice one prom. I’m sure my old copy of thus spake zarathrustra will be good for a couple of grammes of d3. Not sure what I’ll use for a doorstop once it’s gone though.

Well today I start my career as an online teacher. With our university closed for X amount of time, we’re all trying to set up web pages to interact with our students, fun because few of us are technically accomplished and the IT department is all working from home and were never any good anyway. :smiley:

Oh well, education is sacred as they say.

Promethean’s a funny guy.

(More from Turd.)

#Corona Virus
Update 782

Lots of good
news coming out. US is doing a fairly good job at managing not just Corona but also the economic damage to Corona.

Before I
get to the positives some philosophical clarity of position: I’m not a Millennialist like Zero Sum who has absolute faith in a coming collapse and societal restructuring along concepts like Justice and Utopia. I’m just a Catholic who has about 2,000 years
knowledge of such groups occasionally breaking off awaiting with certitude the apocalypse. His mindset is fairly identical to St. Bede’s writings of the plagues when people would write with wonder about the end times and always had a clever refuge to wait
out the plague- usually in a mosquito infested swamp way out of the way, and they would build a monastery there. It’s a rather immature strategic outlook, not a full network system of logical binaries able to crunch our varied yet useful data but rather fossilized
stratagems bundled with hope and spiteful expectations against a sinful and wicked world. Zero Sum has more faith than any Pope I know, he quit his job for this plague while a previous Pope used to ride around in a armored car! Just keep this contradiction
in mind whenever he attacks the religious in the future.

The statistics
I’ve seen many of you use here are fundamentally flawed. I know just enough about statistics to know when mathematical models are not applicable, either due to lack of data or terrifyingly perfect data in a situation far beyond reliable empirical data.

Example China
death tolls- I was tracking long before the outbreaks in nursing homes in the west that in China everyone would be infected and die. They didn’t get counted as their cause of death wasn’t investigated. Most bodies didn’t receive autopsies. You died, people
took your body away, you were cremated.

So I know
it is much higher that reported but am hesitant to stick a Bayesian calculation for how high because I can’t tell. Laowhy86 on YouTube was a early researcher into the 21 million lower end cellphones in China going dead. Lots of variables in this and that’s
only one economic low end class of people. A bunch of statistical methods can clean some of it up but when I look them at the bundle of classes of other people and try to balance variable identification and mitigation, the elimitive remains are completely
crushed by the incompetence of the Chinese Government to effectively pull off a cordon over large cities (they claim not a single PLA soldier was infected. How the fuck do you pull off a quarantine with unmasked troops on the ground doing roadblocks and thermal
checkpoints and not get a fee incidentally infected?) The other issue it the regime in China is intentionally dodgy and opaque. Third everyone is resorting to either face value acceptance of Chinese numbers which as statistically perfect curves that shouldn’t
exist in reality or people are adding statistical filters to Chinese statistical filters to figure out the truth. Add to this the mayhem that we had two different variations of the virus and one is now extinct, very fast spreader…:. But it can come back into
existence anywhere on earth with just a mild mutation on it’s part.

You also
have to factor in China records the cause of death differently from the west. Look into Serpentza’s videos, his wife is a Chinese doctor, he speaks of the practice at a couple of points in his Corona related videos:

m.youtube.com/user/serpentza/videos

What they
do- it isn’t aimed at being sinister, just how they do it, if if you go into a hospital due to say nose cancer, and drown from a nose bleed, your cause of death isn’t Cancer but a Nose Bleed. As a result China has very low statistical rates of disease in general.
People don’t die of AIDS but rather the infections that erupt in the body when you have AIDS. You don’t lose a finger to leprosy but rather a rat bite it off while you slept. That runs statistical mayhem against western methods that identify the root cause.

I would point
out the difference of medical outlook of Ugo Benzi vs Jerome Cardan. Ugo Benzi was the last purely Aristotelian doctor who diagnosed purely off the medival medical literature, and would assert and dispute other doctors diagnosis on purely rhetorical grounds.
I’d strongly recommend looking into his, he sits as the model for what we can expect at the end of Pure Mathematics when we stop making discoveries and rest in time honored certainty. Against this you had the faith of the physician philosopher Jerome Cardan
(he wrote Nietzsche’s Ecce Homo for him a few centuries in advance, was originally Cardan’s autobiography). He accepted the renaissance medical theory of predicting astrological fate with so much certainty that he waited out the year of his prescribed faith
in resigned gloom, and when it passed shook it off and dared to ask why it failed. He went back to the elements of his faith that crossed with the impulse to orient to things and needing to know their outcome and laid the foundations of modern statistics.
In too many cases the members of this forum resemble at best Ugo Benzi citing with certainty the Hegelian canon. You’ll absolutely refute the Christian and Buddhist end time canons but clearly accept the Marxist, Nietzschean and Anarchist writings with absolute
certainty. A president, any president in a plague in 30 years is only out to claim more power in a quarantine, right? Doesn’t matter who they are or what the situation is. Many will impulsively claim it isn’t even a real plague, just a hoax. Others will take
a middle ground saying it is real but is still exploited as a power grab. Others will dispute such paranoia off hand as it is clearly crazy talk and will take the sides of those who speak the patterns of rationalization they’ve long since have come to accept
as reasonable and authoritative.

I’m not asking
for any of the three, all three lead back to Ugo. I’m asking for more Jerome Cardan, questioning the very principles of their thought. Use the powers of philosophy to figure out a new and needed outlook or a reasonable tactic that doesn’t strand themselves
on Sausage Fest Island.

As to Donald
Trump’s economic handling, he had done a fantastic job. The only time we’ve ever been able to take out spontaneous mass loans certain to inflate the currency and have wall street pause and positively react as if something real was going on in the economy-
ain’t shit going on in the economy right now, everything is closed- but the stock market is reacting AS IF things are happening, is during a major war. We are facing a debt in proportion to WW2 or the Civil War, and they used quasi-command economies. Trump
isn’t even doing that. Hasn’t Nationalized companies or drafted anyone into industry yet, but everyone is reacting IRRATIONALLY to it. Their arguments are arguments that fit his agenda. Should we shut down all the economy or some of it? People will scream
they are pro or anti trump and will argue both sides, but these are sides Trump has flirted with and must flirt with- it is precisely what moves the stock market up and down. He doesn’t offer any financial clarity other than large stimulus, a quick recovery
and a quick return to the workforce contradicted by countless unknowns he himself will recognize. And the stock market goes up and down incrementally in response to these incremental data bursts. People offer up panic and he responds.

Why? He keeps
capital that by every right should of died decades if not centuries ago still in existence. People trying to invest are observing and trying to outcompete with this. They are throwing money all over the place, but the whole while Trump keeps hammering Chinese
investment while promoting medical companies in the US as the new certainty the US will back with mass buying of product. He is basically a massive wave generator keeping capital that should of fallen into the drain still swirling, converting it for a new
system of investment instead of the drain we usually get when stock markets collapse in the face of disaster. It is in incremental shocks that matter most. Everyone sees danger and he offers just enough hope at that moment to keep people from getting out.
Why? Cause he needs those businesses to run the economy once this crisis is over. If he doesn’t do this we end up with a flatten managerial and CEO class unable to find employment cause their companies when bankrupt, supply lines and support destroyed, etc.
Usually by this point we would be fucked but it hasn’t happened yet. He has given enough assurance to the Austrian, Keysian and London school of Economic investors that mass multi trillion dollar infused economic currency and decline is temporary.

The irrational
crackhead reaction isn’t Trump’s to this crisis but everyone else. If you don’t see him just pulling magician tricks out of his ass incrementally with slight of hand then you are wrong. This is precisely what is going on. That is the most rational course one
can take with the subjective nature of the noumena everyone expects lies in their money. It is a unit of relativity based on good faith, and when that faith is challenged a good magician is the next best option to keep the bulk of people on board. Your opinion
per se doesn’t matter in actual formula, merely that enough people have a opinion and vote with their money and stock- whatever the wacky diversity of positions may be, and Trump manipulates that. The mass of self interested opinions matter, and he incrementally
steers them. It is important to say both a long quarantine and a short quarantine. People play both. If he said just one position, a fixed course then every shock to the system would undermine it, stock market would loose faith and it would be abandoned. Literally
all they do is stand there, analyzing and betting, and our companies are fueled by that, and people are employed by that. So he gives them the seismic shocks they need, as well as a pathway through conditioned responses. Again, utterly beyond Zero Sum’s grasp-
he only sees the shocks and the inevitable end that must come. It doesn’t occur to him long periods of inflation can exist and that it can even be a fairly mutual inflation internationally. This is hardly the worst we’ve encountered.

For health
updates:

MedCram:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=LqKwAIIy-Mo

His new video
explores the benefits of a Tuberculosis Vaccination in defeating other forms of viral infections such as Yellow Fever. It has a unexpected immune response. In the US this vaccine is discouraged but can still be gotten if you claim you are going to a foreign
country, costs between $200 to $100, but in a third world country can cost and dollar or two. I can’t say what it costs in Turkey, it is a Second World Country.

As to the
quarantines in the US and ventilators, MedCram has some nice videos on that too, basically a old fashion polio machine is a giant vacuum that expands the chest through negative pressure, while most ventilators today are positive pressure shooting air in. I’ve
seen YouTube videos of people making their own ventilators out of computer fans taped up shooting tubed air directly into the mouth, but you can’t control the oxygen output this way or the variability medical ventilators have. I’ve built three ventilators
so have enough for myself, but is looking as if the US government has a fairly good handle on mass manufacturing of commercial grade products more reliable than by bag over the head approach (I just copied what I saw in the hospital pics the best I could).

I’m also
looking into growing Russian Dandylions, they produce a lot of Latex in the roots. Good alternate source. Not that I want to make my own gloves but rather just want to demonstrate new methods of mass production are possible.

Also if you
are looking for a place to invest ( Mr. Reasonable / Smears) looking into diagnostic cameras able to do thermography like Flir as well as dermatological grade resolution cameras. Telehealth standards will increasingly take the world away from a Canadian/Swedish
standard of healthcare and towards remote diagnosis of symptoms, and AI will also be involved. I can guarantee you iPhone and Samsung are looking towards to acquiring camera patents that can hit the resolution and coloring of a high end dermatological camera.
I am not clever enough to say which AI companies will get bought up to filter that, but Trump’s new America is the end of Canadian socialism- it will simply put not survive in it’s current form. We are going to see a strong emphasis on elimination of disease
and statistically culling of data of what disorders exist where, what allows pathogens to spread. It used to be just a argument of preventative medicine and right to treatment in socialism vs medical research and quick access to Medical care- people don’t
realize that paradigm is dead. The socialists will be the last to fully grasp this. We are going to be knocking diseases out like what we did with Polio and Small Pox instead of endlessly treating them. The ability to now be able to mass test and track diseases
via temperature and movements done off smartphones is going to kill off the flu strands one by one. Don’t be surprised if we see a decrease in total deaths to flu strands this year, started off strong but I can’t imagine them doing too well right now. Anonymous
data that yields local statistical data, and AI filters and doctors remotely checking disorders will be a massive revolution to medicine. Next time I talk I’ll include some pharmaceutical advancements I am expecting in printing newer kinds of medicine on demand-
Trump’s call for the return of medicinal companies opens up the door to modern restructuring of how we compound medicines, it is all really exciting.

Oh, forgot given the hobos and people who don’t pay taxes here. Anyone who has a valid social security card in the US is eligible for corona stimulus pay if you make less that $75,000 (roughly that). Since the bill hasn’t passed the IRS hasn’t put out exactly how people who lack a 2019 or 2018 tax return on file will get it, but I used to follow Mnuchin’s wife on Instagram (a little shallow but open to conversation) and know he is fairly reasonable. He talked a few days ago of not knowing exactly how to get checks out to this portion of the population but to keep checking the IRS website. If you lack direct deposit they will send check or debit cards to you. Don’t bother calling, I’ve tried every option on the IRS hotline. In the meantime you can go get food stamps as long as the state your in doesn’t have a work requirement, was waved (certainly temporarily) by a court due to Corona (they were not authorized to do so but don’t see Trump stopping it with the Supreme Court closed, not that he would want to during the outbreak or near aftermath). I’ll let you all know once the Treasury figures out what they will do, just don’t expect this checks in the next three months short of a new congressional bill fast tracking the previous checks. Whole point is to keep people sedentary and at home instead of outdoors and involved in riots and robbing people for food.

I’m going
Kayaking, I have a inflatable Kayak here I’m carrying over a hill tonight, gonna sleep in a hammock and tarp and enjoy my day tomorrow. Back home too many alligators for it (they can bite through a inflatable) but since I’m back in West Virginia taking care
of a friend they are quite rare here and don’t think the police will boat out into the water to get me. I also have a nice massive bicycle I’m considering biking to Pittsburgh and back on the trails if this goes on for long. Can’t tell as the weather in temperate
climates is where most of the testing goes on, tropical climates have less of a statistical outbreak but they also have stronger immune systems and much warmer weather- the weather in Tehran has been roughly 30 degrees colder than New Delhi for example, and
warmer countries can’t in general track shit and have outbreaks of random shit all the time they don’t pay much attention to due to poverty and high mortality. It seems however in warmer climates it is much less virulent, but everyone save Brazil seems obsessed
with lockdowns right now just to be safe. Obviously travelers can bring in the corona virus and it can spread in air conditioning (and travelers have increased access to that), but I’m under stain it can effectively do a neighborhood spread.

I wish you
all the best of luck and quite acting like a bunch of crack head fools. Don’t forget to Shank a Nietzschean in thanks for getting sick, bunch of dirty fuckers blockage running the quarantine thinking they are the ubermensch smoking every drug into their lungs
they can. Really gotta suck to long time smokers of weed and cigarettes to have such shitty lungs during the outbreak.

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I mean, come on, you’d have to be a fucking idiot to continue reading the thoughts of someone who can actually think himself into making this claim!!

You know, if I do say so myself.

Alright.

USA 100,392 102,464 cases.

On the other hand, imagine how many more cases America would have had if they elected Clinton!!!

Note to turd:

I’m being ironic. :wink:

Turd, stop hiding behind Maia’s coattails and face us like a real man. :laughing: :-"

Flushes toilet

And your faith or religion is that pompous asshole Donald Trump who is a fifth column neo-bolshevik that has basically transformed the entire republican party under neo-bolshevism.

It is a sick, perverted, and twisted inverted form of socialism or communism where instead of having socialism for the very poor it instead is a kind of economic communism for the very wealthy at everybody else’s expense via the printing press.

This of course is no surprise because the entire neoconservative movement was created by ex Trotskyists and bolsheviks that immigrated to the United States overtime.

You dumbasses won’t be laughing however when the DOW Jones industrial complex falls to 5000 points or below, and after that it’s revolution time like you can’t even imagine. Hope you pick the winning team because if not you’re going to be in store for a bad time.

I and those like me will show no mercy or quarter upon that day just as we haven’t been shown any the last thirty years.

America has the largest number of coronavirus cases. In part because there are so many more of us.

A more revealing stat is the number of cases a county has per 1,000,000 citizens

Here in America that is now 310

For other countries…

Italy 1,431
Spain 1,406
Germany 607
France 505
Iran 385
UK 214
Switzerland 1,494
Norway 696
Iceland 2,608
Netherlands 502
Israel 351

On the other hand, if the number of cases in America keeps up the current pace, this number gets bigger and bigger. And bigger faster than other countries.

It’s just the flu bro… :sunglasses: :laughing:

What would that entail?

Much more than there are Indians and Chinese?

Lololol

Lol that’s a good one.

Use your imagination if you have any.

China now has 57 cases per 1,000,000 pop. Why? Because China now has 74,971 recovered cases. Why? Because as with Trump the Chinese leaders played down the virus in the beginning until it was too late. But unlike Trump [so far] they then responded with “draconian” measures to “kick the corona ass”.

With China there are two crucial factors:

1] what happens when they try to “reopen” the economy and ease up on the “social distancing” rules?
2] what happens if there is a second “wave” in the Fall?

India now has 0.7 cases per 1,000,000 pop. Why? You tell me. India [like Russia} is truly an anomaly built into the very biological/geographical parameters of the virus itself. Why hasn’t it exploded in India and Russia? Will it explode there eventually?

All we can do is see what unfolds.

On the other hand, in America, China and India 1 either = 0.999… or it doesn’t. :wink:

Significant possible breakthrough on the horizon:

It was disclosed by Cuomo that:

" New York’s department of health will begin a new test to see if individuals who were infected with coronavirus developed antibodies to the disease, saying: “It could be a big breakthrough”

Well, unlike you, when it comes to matters of fact, I try not to use imagination.