Are insane people aware of their insanity?

Define sanity:

Accurate reference !!!

That’s all it is, seems simple enough, yet has challenges. For example, if you think you exist, you cannot contradict yourself. So non contradiction is part of that.

This is for those seeking a definition .

Insanity can be when one’s programming so to say, is telling you to think and do things which were historically fine in evolutionary terms especially, but are not ok now [violence, rape, paedophilia etc]. That isn’t insanity where ‘normal’ would be acting according to ones genes ~ how nature has made us. This is different to where the nervous state has been exasperated to extreme anxiety, depression or some such thing, or where the brain is defective or damaged in some manner.

I would also say that a brain which has been damaged and ‘re-welded’ itself back together, could also be problematic and a possible cause of insanity in the shape of a ‘broken’ machine. Neurons are physical and so is life, which batters the hell out of them.

Someone who is or has become broken, is ill. That is different to people who are functioning properly relative to their genetic schemata, and are choosing to act in a manner incongruous with society, which I think is very rare. With e.g. psychopaths, you can get people who are genetically psychopathic but lead normal lives, then you get those from abusive backgrounds who go on to kill people. Its quite sad when you see prisoners opening up to police about the reasons behind it all, hoping to get some understanding of >what made them like that<, but the system just uses that as evidence of their evil and not pertaining to >an< evil [the given and not the individually manifest].

If we classify insanity by our faults and genes or nature, then we are all insane. yet the whole point of categorisation, is to arrive at a proper balance between different fields. The sword and scales of justice aren’t there to bring down upon anyone’s heads who steps out of line, the sword is there to divide things up to draw distinctions. For example, someone who looks at underage porn is not the same as someone who fucks, tortures and kills children [is very ill], and yet society and law calls them all equally paedophiles. The correct thing to do is to not label human beings off and to bring the sword down such to denote categorical differences, so achieving the balance. Anything else is mob rule.

a recognition that causality can take normal caring people down dark roads, is equally better than making rash and spurious correlations between individuals and the things they are supposed to have caused. all of our thought streams are causal.

_

You’re basically not saying anything counter to my viewpoint.

If the proponents of those that support the naturalistic fallacy where everything is natural it then comes to be known that there is indeed no unnatural behaviors or actions how abominable they may be perceived.

Of course the same people lamenting on the ills of so called evil or wrong behaviors and actions seemingly have no problem excusing their own on a daily basis which is why none of those sentiment emotional appeals can ever be taken seriously.

Look, hypocrisy, it’s everywhere and all around us. :laughing:

Does anybody do anything about it all? No, too busy only concerned about their own self interests and survival, the exact kind of behavior you would expect of any amoral creature.

No. You asked me how I know I truly exist. I answered. Since you asked the question and the answer did not soothe or sate, it is upon you to define the word ‘exist’ for you to receive a more accurate answer. Otherwise, I could explain however I choose to explain in however many varied ways that would, then, be upon me to define my self as I go instead of truly understanding the sense in which you use the term. And, at that point, since you used it so vaguely and since you responded to my answer the way that you did, would surely still not be enough for you and you would still, then, be unsatisfied with the answers that I provided.

There are levels of insanity. It’s not an either/or.
The truly insane actually realize it, and the others do not, therefore they are not. But the former cease to view it as a negative, to them it becomes a useful tool. All the horrors which the truly insane leveled upon the world, are well documented.

Fail. Next.

Fail what? Fail safe: there is no safety, in an actual nuclear exchange, that’s pure insanity, par excellence. Prior to the atomic age, when meanings were patently inherent,
Insanity was usually a defensive tool to avoid death.

After that, insanity became an offensive tool.

Most so called retreats from reason are defensively adopted postures posed, to give credence for a retreat from reality. Real psychosis is consistent with
projections of subsumed power derived from mass aggregates of fear. These fears are exploited by those who truly understand fears.

Objection over ruled.

Your problem is the conclusion that the distinguishment actually means something at all.

That’s exactly my point: meaning has been stretched to the point of incomprehension, toward a limit, wherefrom the denial of it, begins to project meaning where there is none. Patently speaking meaning is sustained. This is why psychoanalysis failed in the post modern age, and only a few analysts go beyond the patently symbolic, into the buried symbols of the irrational. This was pre-figured as the qualifying motive of art, as a symbol of interpretation. Analysis has become an art.

Interesting. Please continue.

There is more, but it would consist of analysis of basic concepts surrounding mirror images and preception, and their analogy through the mechanics of denial/negation/projection to reified formal signaling in art as pre ordinately communicative.

Topical presentation would survive the goals of what
Is meant for this topic, for the reasons given above.

And because, I am at the topical stage of interpretation/analysts, through purely a formal-philosophical point of view, I would consider mysel unprepared for such analysis. However, any one can access leads, to incorporate such with enough time, intelligence and motivation. It would be a very challenging endeavor to those very interested in those kinds of connections.

And because, I am at the topical stage of interpretation/analysts, through purely a formal-philosophical point of view, I would consider mysel unprepared for such analysis. However, any one can access leads, to incorporate such with enough time, intelligence and motivation. It would be a very challenging endeavor to those very interested in those kinds of connections.

Sorry, for the duplication, I don’t know how it happened.

LOL, your “Because I do” is a toddler answer. It does not say how you know you exist. " Because I do" might work for a small child but, should not even be considered for an adult discussion. I asked for your definitions to give a chance at deeper thought. Take it or leave it. I think you can be better then what you are showing.

Ha Ha Ha,
Woke up this morning, thought about your query, and will look into it further. Found my initial answer insufficient. Will do some research, to be able to get beneath the topical, if I can come up with something further.

Thanks.

Looking forward to it.

I exist, because there is a bunch of random shapes and feelings and i percieve them. the random shapes and feelings give me existence, without them i do not exist.

To distinguish in yourself or others?

I don’t think it is simple, by the way, or easy. Self-delusion is easy. Dealing with all the emotion around noticing what is happening inside oneself and outside oneself, that takes courage and ingenuity. Ingenuity because the damage and confusion was pounded into us early and continued. So the tools we use to unravel it are also affected.